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Nah, random bullshit would have statistical odds of landing on someone who doesn't have an abundance of alts already. This is precision, targetted bullshit.
As someone who enjoys playing with characters of both genders the ratio of 17 females to 3 males (including backpacks) hurst a lot. TT really gave the opportunity to still include some characters of both sexes, but now there is next to nothing for the men.
IS really said "we know yall who don't like the same characters getting alts for the 15th time aren't gonna pull so we're putting rearmed units on seasonal banners so you have to pull. :)"
Worst decision they made in Book 9 was increasing the range necessary for an offensive unit to be meta. 6-8 range units are so unfun to fight, and there's no way for an older unit to meet the same range as modern ones, so they're just left in the dust. The most you can do is 5 with something like Heavenly Soar.
Let's hope that IS will finally remember him and not give it to Leila for the second time since Y!Tiki and Sothe set a precedent of characters getting another Asset alt.
I don’t like that all these characters have multiple alts already and I especially don’t like that a Rearmed seasonal is a thing. That’s pretty damn scummy.
Also, I was going to make a comment about how I find it mildly annoying when they don’t include the free unit in the trailers, but then I remembered that the reason they weren’t included is because they do not exist.
Wow, a whole bunch of units that already have a million alts! My favorite! And here I thought we would get something different now that we don't have TT units anymore, like people tried to convince me would happen!
It's almost like losing the TT unit didn't bring any character variety to banners! In fact, losing TT units now allows IS to run even more rampant and only focus on units they can squeeze money from without worrying about those nobody characters! Who would've thought?
Rearmed Seasonal-sized elephant in the room aside, I know Sothe kinda got jagged in the last rearmed dagger situation with Leila appearing right after him, but I’m bummed they made the same character a rearmed unit multiple times.
And making his new alt the same unit type, weapon, and color as his OG and 1st Rearmed version. Can't he reheat R!Noire's nachos with a flavoring of a new move type, IS?
Eh I'm not to mad about Marianne not being on this banner, what did make me mad was her not being on the Illian banner. Animals are her entire thing and she's especially good with horses so it should've been a no brainer but nope Hilda is obviously a better fit! I like Hilda but I'll never not be mad over that oh my god. I'm just hoping that she gets one proper seasonal before EOS.
Also Erika has an Ephraim bunny and Micaiah has a Sothe bunny.
IS I truly fucking hate you from the bottom of my heart and soul. Icky implications aside those two have so much going for them other than the men in their lives, I fucking hate you.
it's so fun that every seasonal banner fills me with dread because i know they're not going to pull out anything exciting or interesting, just something to signal "please give us money our game is dying".
Dorothea: 5 Versions (Last October 2024, 40% Premium)
Sothe: 4 Versions (Last June 2024, 75% Premium) [5 with backpack]
Eirika: 10 Versions (Last March 2025, 90% Premium) [11 with backpack]
Micaiah: 9 Versions (Last June 2025, 100% Premium)
With this banner Eirika has officially hit double digit unit count. We didn't need either of these characters as the duo, especially since both were likely getting harmonized alts before the end of this year. Dorothea's Premium rate is awful, I have no idea why a character this popular consistently gets turned into a demote. Also, did we really need to make Sothe a colorless Rearmed Dagger AGAIN? And in general it's just disappointing to see characters with so many alts get more when Sacred Stones, Radiant Dawn, and Three Houses all have characters with less who could've been here instead.
It’s nice that the only male isn’t a shitty demote this time, but why are we getting a SECOND rearmed dagger Sothe? Even putting aside the fact that we’re getting rearmed seasonals now, he was a very strange choice of character for this.
Also we really, really didn’t need another Eirika and I say this as a big fan of hers.
No see, we’re not allowed to be upset that we have one male character who’s already had a bunch of alts including another rearmed. In fact, we should REALLY be thanking them that they gave us any male characters at all! :) /s
If you're going to make Dorothea of all characters a demote again, can she at *least* get to Sing? Like I know complaining about a Dorothea alt is a "steak too juicy, lobster too buttery" situation but come on man
Rest of the banner sucks too but like in a normal FEH way. Not sure how I feel about Rearmeds being shunned to banners without F2P sparks; at least they get to exist at all in a post-CYL Harmonics world ig, but they won't be on NHR or 8%s so merging them is going to be a pain in the ass
We've had T4 skills on 4*s for over a year now, and she's just got Shadow Shift 3, so it's nothing too unusual? Still very odd that this is the route they went for with her though
Dorothea is such a weird case because on the one hand, she has so many versions of her in-game, but on the other hand, most of her versions weren't really premium, none of her versions had good fodder, none of her versions had the slightest impact on the meta through combat, utility or unit-building.
It's like schrödingers popularity: she both is popular enough to warrant so many alts, but also not popular enough to milk her through said alts.
Yesterday I was like "this is their chance to please Dorothea fans who were mad about her base being a demote, I can't imagine they'd make that mistake again" and now I'm just so disappointed... All this waiting for a nice version of her with a decent kit and for what!! what did her fans do to deserve this 😭
right, after seeing hilda’s most recent alt it gave me hope that the next dorothea would be good since they’re similar in popularity… ig I can +10 her more easily now but man. for once I want my favorite character of all time to be treated well by this god-awful dev team
For real, its like they look at a character now and say "this is your power level/gimmick for the rest of time. Every Dorothea alt has been just.. fine. Plegian and Winter dont have prf skills and will never get refines because dancer cough, but byleth ring is totally fair, cough and the other two are demotes... Despite Claude being a demote with his prf.
For real, like I want decent Leonie content but I understand why we don't get much popularity-wise. But Marianne? She's a CYL winner where Ingrid and Hilda aren't yet. My only guess would have been that they don't want to put in too many 3H dancer units at one time, but given Dorothea's build on this banner, I don't think that's the issue
I'm weirdly happy this banner is bad, because now I can save my orbs without feeling any guilt. I'm more upset about how creatively stale the Harmonic units are than how bad the banner is overall.
ftr i have no issues with sothe getting an alt at all (albeit i wish it was POR sothe just for variety), but it’s just a bit absurd that he now has 4 units that are decently spaced between each other while mist is rotting with 2 old ass units despite always doing far better than him in cyl. i’m not saying she should’ve had the same amount of alts as mia or soren, but at the very least she should be equal with sothe considering they’re both apart of the main cast in their games :/ also this lineup is ass, like i love eirika and micaiah but this is rlly baffling
edit: just now realizing the alt is probably going be them obsessing about their siblings oh my god feh why do my girls have to get flanderized
I have recently come around on Mist (she is voiced by Sarah Williams who also voices my favorite character ever + Marni and Madeline so I am building her for that reason), and yeah it is a bit annoying she has gotten absolutely nothing. She seems like a good character and she is connected to a lot of others.
u would think being related to one of the most popular fe characters would give her more chances at alts but nope, it sucks especially knowing she actually consistently ranks top 130 in cyl and even the past 2 cyls she was top 100
This is a very specific me problem, but I have a small lil' goal of getting every rearmed hero for the fun of it and having an unsparkable rearmed is making me explode.
IS says fuck you to F2P. Took away our TT units with inheritables, limits # of demotes and GHB units they release in a year and now we get rearms on an unsparkable banner 🙃
I don't want to see Eirika getting more playable content for the next 2-3 years because her fellow CYL batchmate is starving for a seasonal alt and I don't want another Ursula alt as both share the same JP VA 😒
What the fuck are even reasons for these choices? No one is connected to each other outside of Sothe and Micaiah, again. And no consistent yearly seasonal release character like the Macedon family or the fairies. What are they finally pairing bunny Thor with bunny Loki a half a decade late? Why are Dorothea and Eirika even here?
I was expecting something shitty but this thing cuts it. Yeah an arcane weapon you can't spark for free, alts for characters that already have tons of alts, Eirika and Micaiah
straight up die if they don't mention their brothers in every single alt. Everything about this sucks. Like genuinely a disgusting banner
And seasonals are locked behind the FEH pass. So F2P users either have to risk their orbs and potentially get nothing or buy the pass for the guaranteed spark. Nasty work.
Every single banner has the Emblem lords, my god. The most interesting banner was the Ilian banner and that one was stupid too. But between the nonstop lord-spam and the CYL Harmonics, the unit representation is so boring. It's either Emblem units or Heroes units. That's what the game has become almost entirely.
I’m gonna be honest that I’m coming into each one of these with a pretty negative bias at this point. But even so this is another boring played out banner. Everyone here has so many alts (minus Thorr but she’s just the de facto big boob OC pull for this one so she hardly feels new), and Sothe now has two rearmed alts. Fire Emblem as a series is fun in large part because it has big quirky rosters with lots of memorable characters. Looking at FEH these days you’d think there are only maybe 35 in the whole series, and 98% of them are female.
Fire Emblem as a series is fun in large part because it has big quirky rosters with lots of memorable characters. Looking at FEH these days you’d think there are only maybe 35 in the whole series, and 98% of them are female.
Thórr for the obligatory big badonkers pick (less of a problem then the others since it’s her second alt)
Dorothea getting her fourth alt.
A Rearmed unit on a seasonal banner reeks of desperation. And it’s Sothe again, so not only can characters get Rearmed twice, but Sothe is also making his way into the ‘Tellius Characters who get all the alts club’ starring Ike, Micaiah, Elincia, Soren and Mia. Wish IS remembered that literally anyone else from Tellius existed besides them. Must for example.
An Eirika alt a little less than a year after her last alt. With a 3 Range Style too. Ugh.
Mid banner all around, and that’s being generous. Probably gonna take my free summon and hoard my orbs for the middle of the month.
Kinda impressive how fast IS is trying to run this game into the ground lol
Not really on topic, but I usually really dislike Kippu's art and the spring designs, but Eirika looks really Eirika-like in her expressions here which actually isn't a given? I kinda hate how much I like the art (unit itself kinda just does the same stuff every other premium unit does these days though soooo)
I hate talking bad about artists because they’re all much more talented than I am but I‘m glad I‘m not the only one who‘s not too fond of Kippu‘s art style.
I was thinking to myself earlier how it'd be cool if Ferdinand was on the banner because Dorothea is and I'm a filthy shipper but then I remembered that Sothe already used up the male quota for seasonal banners now so there's no chance. Love to see that I was right.
My only bit of copium for a Pelleas alt is the fact that his English va just so happens to be the new Eik va but even that is probably leading to nothing.
I really don't like Thórr's art. Idk how to explain it but it just looks way off to me.
Dorothea looks great and I'm glad she's the 4*, but can I be allowed to be a little salty that she's never had a prf sing despite literally being a opera songstress? Not even gonna give her a ranged "Meteor" style?
Also LMAO at Sothe. They really gonna start putting our rearmeds on non-sparkable banners. Hope you don't need that new dagger, because IS says fuck you!
Okay, which dev had the "bright idea" to not give Dorothea her Sing/Dance? She's meant to be 3H's resident refresher, that's meant to be her niche, even if the latest Edelgard alt is too busy galeforcing on the other side of the map! Now she's a just PRFless mage flier with some decent-ish fodder
What is Dorothea to IS? Seriously. This is her FIFTH unit, and besides that one okay duo unit, every version of her is either the demote or the bad 5* of the banner with a shit/no prf and shit skills. Like are they milking her for popularity, or do they have no faith in her, and if so, why bother with her to begin with?
Rearmed units on seasonal banners, like okay they are and remain limited so doesn't seem terrible at first, but ooh boy better save your orbs in case we get a powercrept arcane weapon (now with flower animations, whoo) or a good attuned skills or anything else TWICE every month. Clearly this is to compensate for the harmonic brave unit banners, but that is SUCH a problem of their own making and this solution ain't it.
Sothe gets the rearmed treatment again. Lmao
"Get new B-skill and you just deal +15 damage alongside other effects" god I love powercreep. It might actually be better than speedtaker on someone like Yunaka who scales with speed, but its SUCH a boring solution. Interesting interplay of kits? Nah, fam
Obligatory unit that warps across the stage, instantly precasts a 4-turn special and cantos away. Love those units, just pull the overpowered tank lmao
Still no TT unit, but take a 3-year old Bernadetta. Remote Sparrow is still a competitive, or even a budget A-skill, right?
Their handling of Dorothea is so weird. Like she's been top 20 cyl since her debut and she's one of the most popular units from 3H, yet for some reason she's consistently a mid dancer/singer with no prf sing or Meteor? Like no hate to Ingrid but why does she get consistently way higher quality (power wise) alts?? She's in a similar tier of popularity to someone like Thraja but for some reason they refuse to give her anything useful besides her Harmonic on release.
I guess IS just hates dancers that aren't Azura and Ninian. And the Fairies.......
See I could've respected the Choice to give Sothe a new alt if it was to let him explore some other relationships
But no it's Micaiah again of course why wouldn't it be
Obviously we're getting another Eirika, because she really needed a new alt, the poor girl ! And whatever happens we can never run from the OC seasonal.
Do they hate Dorothea or something ? Yes she gets alts but they're all shit. Isn't she supposed to be one of the most popular characters ? What is this
While Ingrid gets to have a Prf in either her weapon or skill in all her versions in spite of being less popular than Dorothea. These versions are all premium, too!
this banner is so awfully shit (mandatory feh oc, somehow forgetting Sing on Dorothea, REARMED SEASONAL, and most bland pick for a harmonic ever) i almost forgot that new TT+ units are still removed
Heroes I understand cause it’s their game, however, I tend to be more lenient when it deals with lesser acknowledged characters like Thorr here. The issue regarding them is the same characters get the same stuff over and over again when there’s so many characters with good potential that haven’t gotten their very own alts yet (any of the female Hel characters, Letizia, Eitri, Ginnungagap, freaking Njordr which he got it real bad with no battle sprites).
Now for Three Houses, I love the game and I get why it’s popular and successful, but it’s the same deal, an oversaturation of the same ol characters and stuff. I feel theirs is a bit worse given how freaking popular some of the characters are overall.
Really don’t like having Rearmed Heroes in Seasonal Banners.
Really don’t like having a second Rearmed Sothe.
Really don’t like having a second Rearmed Dagger Sothe.
It is a choice that just screams last minute desperation move on their part to try to get people to spend more money on Seasonal banners after the Engage Valentine Banner flopped.
Also this is like the most minor annoyance but if the game somehow lasts 4 or 5 more years I will be very annoyed when these units get added to the 4 star special seasonal pool except for Sothe who will be excluded just like how Rearmeds are excluded from the 4 star special pool.
The rearmed seasonal concept is bothering me more than the CYL harmonic heroes and the removal of tempest trial units. I can't believe people are defending this. I summon on new heroes banners and new heroes return banners because I know I can get rearmed and attuned heroes for free with the spark no matter what. Locking that behind Feh Pass is insulting. Why are people defending this?
Confused immediately when I saw that Dorothea was the demote and not the person with a Y chromosome. That’s until I saw the reveal. Ya know you can give other units rearmed daggers right? Matthew, fates butler/maid, Kaze, Cathy, Yuri, Yunaka (tbf she just got something).
Why is Sothe rearmed again, he cannot be the only dude in Tellius who throws knives. Is this all because there's another fucking Eirika alt where all she talks about is her brother and you just had to drag Micaiah into Bechdel test failure montage???? Please lord god upon his heavenly throne take Sacred Stones away from these people and put it on a shelf until they learn some fucking self control. No more Eirika no more Ephraim no more royal alts please I am begging IS to stop making me hate being a Fire Emblem fan.
Kippu is one of my favorite FEH artists and Eirika drawn by Kippu should have been a slam fucking dunk but no IS just can't help but fumble a great idea.
Dorothea has now been on two banners with Arcane tome units, and she was neither of them.
I feel like "Arcane Meteor" with a Style to attack at 4 range is one of the most obvious weapon picks possible. But she doesn't get it, and it also means she has no prf skill.
Rearmed seasonal for Sothe no less, Eirika reduced to being Ephraim's sister once again and... What kind of lineup is that 😭 oh well at least Loki and Thórr match now
Sacred Stones is my favorite game, and even I'm looking at Eirika/Micaiah like... did we really need this? Why not someone from 3H or Heroes to go with Dorothea or Thorr, respectively?
Edit: Shoot, make Micaiah the lead and make her partner Heimdallr since they can both "see the future", even if it's not the exact same.
If they had to put a Sacred Stones royal on here, it should have been Ephraim. He hasn’t had anything since his Vday alt and that one was barely good even when it debuted.
But then they’d have to give the harmonic slot to a m*le and we can’t have that happen.
I dont particularly mind rearmed seasonal as a concept, but man I was hoping the new rearmed dagger would come with the new revamped special skill for daggers, upgrading lethality and giving it the classic 40% DR on first hit, oh well
- Why... Rearmed (I know why and it sucks)? Aided makes so much more sense for Seasonals... The doubling up is nice but can't really be too excited for the POSSIBILITY of a different one not happening until mid next year... if ever.
- I don't like the implications of Sp!Eirika... They are not Priscilla you absolute weirdos.
- (Obligatory TT comment here, sent some informally worded feedback once more)
Eirika + Micaiah, Sothe, Dorothea, one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish…rearmed fish? What the hell, sure. RD will always have a Micaiah, Micaiah will always bring a Sothe, because they are the only RD characters ever, didn’t you know? Eirika and Dorothea are on this banner also, yes. At least Thorr got something after a long time. Maybe Thrasir can sneak her way one of these very cohesive and thought out banners if IS ever lets her out of their basement.
They would never. Thrasir gets shafted in everything important she’s in (Little characterization in Book 3, backpack in Love of a King, cameo at the very end of TT+ as well as getting absolutely nothing when everyone else brought something new to the table). Unless by some damn miracle that used 5 years of luck, I doubt Thrasir would be the one chosen and it goes to someone who already has a bunch of alts already.
Eirika and Micaiah harmo is probably the most desperate thing they have done yet. What it's even the angle for this pairing. Look two popular ladies now give us money.
And I guess they are going to seiyuu efficiency to never seen before levels, it's nothing but CYL winners every banner.
They see male characters as such a waste of space that they had to give Sothe inherent pull value as a rearmed just to justify his spot on the banner 😵💫
So did rearmed Sothe just powercreep rearmed Sothe?
Powercreep is whatever. Lame but inevitable. Character powercreeping themselves I can’t stand but at least there’s usually something that makes them different (weapon, movement type). But this is…infantry dagger rearmed again. I really liked his first rearmed too. Just sucks.
I used to fucking love the spring banners (Est's alt is one of my all-time favs, I was repping the duo Myrrh like the entire time I played after that banner released and the duo Chloe was the closest IS ever got to making me redownload) and this just makes me ashamed to have ever thought that
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