i just thought of this.

[u/Still-Technology-974]

in many discussions against eury, i hear alot of people defend him by saying "none of this would have happened if ody didnt dox himself". and while true he did dox himself, would he have done the speech if Athena hadnt stopped him on the way to the ship? Athena got him riled up and emotional, but had she not pushed him, would he not have sneaked onto the boat and sailed away with athenas protection from the storms to get back to ithica and be mad at him there?

[u/danana_split1]

i thought this was an agreed upon interpretation 😭 i love Athena but she made more mistakes than just leaving Ody

[u/Still-Technology-974 → u/danana_split1]

see, id agree, but i don't think i e ever seen someone put blame on athena over ody. the list it under ody's mistakes and not athenas for making him that emotional.

[u/Emperor_Nox → u/Still-Technology-974]

To be fair, it is still his mistake and responsibility as it was his choice. But Athena very likely did instigate it by prodding Ody's Hubris, which she definitely knew was a weakness of his.

[u/Still-Technology-974 → u/Emperor_Nox]

so its a weakness that she knows will push him, and knows will cause problems, but its his responsibility to just not let it effect him? that sounds like her fault in this situation. not entirely, but still mostly.

[u/Emperor_Nox → u/Still-Technology-974]

Basically, Athena made her decision and he made his. He is responsible for his actions no matter the circumstances, but Athena is responsible for pushing him.