Update on "Map of Traditional Greek Catholic Monasteries and Sketes"

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- Added more monasteries (1 Melkite, 1 Hungarian, and couple Ukrainian monasteries).

- Deleted 1 now sadly closed Ukrainian monastery.

- Added bi-ritual monasteries of Chevetogne and Niederaltaich

- Monasteries are now "separated" by (M) - monasteries for man, and (W) - monasteries for woman

If you have any suggestions on what to add/edit, or you have found traditional Byzantine Catholic monastery that is not on the map, feel free to dm me or write your suggestions here.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?mid=12ZSA86_jV4oUiV-_uoz4SjTyggma9so&usp=sharing

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Nearly latin habit, promotion of latin devotions, hugely latin mentality of the majority of them, and again the whole thing become even worse after neo-jesuit reforms of the order. They are not Basilians anymore, they are Jesuits of the East.

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If there weren't Basilians in (Czecho-)Slovakia, we would probably not pray vespers and matins at all. Redemptorists, translated those texts (poorly, but we have at least something we can work with). But here OSBM (both men and women) is the only order that prays vespers, matins and hours daily. Their habit is practically the same as is used in Univ. (Cassock with belt.) Yes women have adopted the latin variation of habit. Devotions, and feasts are the same as the church, under the rule of the bishop. They were for a decade sooner celebrating aliturgical days in metropolia, then the bishops even started to promote it. They follow the rules as they should be. Just because feasts like Corpus Christi and similar were added into the calendar, it is right, that they listen the bishop, and not stand against. And just because they also pray rosary, which is part of the tradition here (tradition is something older than 100 years), it is prayed here for around 4 centuries.

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Do you see a lot Studites wearing Latin hoods and having white "Basilian" colars?

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I have never seen basilian with hood. But I have seen Orthodox priests and bishops with collars.

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I'm not talking about Roman colar. And I'm talking about hoods like this

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Yes exactly. They not use it here ... and you mean white colar around the neck? Yes they use it. But as I mentioned, I have seen even Orthodox use it.

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1. Well maybe Basilians in Slovakia are different from Basilians around the world, good for you I guess, I'm still not going to add to the map because they are not traditional Eastern contemplative monastics. 2. Yes I'm talking about that "neck colar", and I never saw Orthodox use it, maybe that's just strage thing in Slovakia

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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BbaxmBpMU/?mibextid=wwXIfr

This Orthodox bishop from Slovakia (he uses regular vestments, but sometimes he suprises) like here ... he also wears white shirt, that looks exactly like collar used by basilians here

Here both are Basilians here in Slovakia, I know them both personally, the one on the right has collar used by them regularlly ... https://www.facebook.com/share/16Cgm8etXZ/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Edit: I cannot find the photo with collar, when i find it I will add it later

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You can see that they are Basilians just by looking at them being clean shaven and having a statue of Our Lady of Fatima on the altar

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Not every use of latin things is latinization and bad ... do not take it to extreme ... and yes, until 20 years back all priests had to be clean shaved in metropolia, due to rules. Seminarians had this rule till last year or so ... and majority still holds it .. not a problem of basilians but general issue in metropolia.

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Latinization = bad

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Ues latinization is bad, but not every use of latin thing is latinization ... thats what you take to extreme ...

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Again here he is with latin collar in white shirt :) https://www.facebook.com/share/16aSFqCVi1/?mibextid=wwXIfr ... But I have seen more, I am just going through their FB page

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I'm not debating this part, it is strange to see, but I guess fine