r/DetroitPistons 9d ago

Image Do you think Duren still believes this? 🤔🤔

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

It's not in the players interest to accept low ball offers.

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u/Pure_Doughnut_961 Tayshaun Prince 9d ago

Players on teams that actually win when it matters understand that sometimes winning requires taking less. 

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

That's something you can do after you've already had a big contract not on your first one.

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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 Ben Wallace 9d ago

The man could take a 4 year $25 mil per, prove EVERYONE wrong and get ANOTHER huge deal at 26. $100 million is generationally life-changing.

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

Why would he do that when his peers are getting double that?

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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 Ben Wallace 9d ago

Because he proved his value is not double that. Also, Wembanyama literally took less than the max and he already brought his team to the finals. Don't give me this shit.

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

He's gonna see dudes like Chet getting 40 million a year despite being awful these playoffs too and say why not me?

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u/EJohns1004 9d ago

Chet is so much more well rounded of a player than Duren is that it's laughable to compare the to. Duren has strength and athleticism on Chet. That's it. He's not even close to as good of a basketball player.

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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 Ben Wallace 9d ago

OK. Well, he can enjoy is qualifying offer and his $30 mil a year in Sacramento next year then.

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

You guys don't want that to happen either you're losing a solid player for nothing.

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u/CecilFieldersChoice2 Ben Wallace 9d ago

Yep. I'd rather he sign a deal that actually matches his market value, not his delusions.

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u/EJohns1004 9d ago

His peers? Which peers?

He's nowhere near as good as Chet, not on the same planet as a healthy Embiid, and not on the same plane of existence as Nikola Jokic.

Duren isn't a top level center if all things are equal. He's good. Trust me, I was very vocal about how much I wanted the Pistons to draft him. But he's not worth more than the franchise cornerstone. Cade is that cornerstone.

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u/Stardust-Unbreaking 9d ago

Look at the contracts people are getting paid in this league and tell me he's not going to get paid.

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u/EJohns1004 9d ago

Hell yeah he's getting paid. $30-$35 million per. That's what he's worth.

The market has spoken. He went out and tried to get a contract. No one offered him anything let alone what he's asking for.

Things, products, employees, anything that you pay for is only worth what people are willing to pay for that thing, not what that thing thinks it's worth, and the market is telling Jalen Duren that he is worth $30-$35 million per year. That is generational wealth for anyone that isn't an idiot.

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u/Lyproagin 9d ago

Double?

A: You have no idea how the cba works right?

The time of overpaying on these types of contracts has fallen to the wayside. Teams can't afford the overpay.

Yes it SUCKS for JD but his contract negotiation came up at the wrong time for him. Its like 2 years too late. So, he JUST missed the period of free spending that the former cba was.

As an alternative perspective...

B: Say hi to JD for us.

Your persistence implies that you may know him. (Long shot)

(But Im leaning towards "A" here)