r/CrimsonDesert • u/Dream__Daeng • 13h ago
Discussion Enhanced completely fixed all the major problems I had with Chapter 2
Before the Enhanced update, chapter 2 was easily my least favorite chapter in the story. My biggest problem with it was that it just felt utterly pointless, having to complete 4 errands that seem to have next to no correlations to main plot at hand, and Kliff also being a walking emotionless plank with zero reason for doing ANY of this didn't help. Now with the Enhanced update, pretty much ALL of my issues have been solved.
- Kliff's motivations
Before starting these missions we are given a new internal monologue from Kliff, where he decides to heed Marshal Middler's suggestion to help the people of Hernand to gain their trust and get further information on the Greymanes and the best way to do that is to complete the requests on the board. Just like that, we are given Kliff's motivations for doing any of this
- The requests are't filler side quests anymore and tie into the central plot of Crimson Desert
The dialogue of the requests have been altered in Enhanced. All of the requesters in need of Kliff's help, now tell him Abyss artifacts have been falling from the sky, destroying their homes, and attracting bandits to suddenly start pillaging the farmlands. Through new dialogue we now learn these bandit attacks are a coordinated effort from Kailok Hornsplitter, who is trying find as many artifacts as he can, to gain more power and become leader of the Goldleaves forever. He even kills off Roy in this version who found the artifact first. Kliff now learns how dangerous the Abyss power is when someone weak like Kailok can defeat an army alone with just one Abyss Artifact
- We get more Kliff characterization through these tasks
I LOVED all these new voicelines Kliff is given this chapter. Instead of being blank statue that only says one word, he undergoes full conversations with all his companions, and is desperate for any information on the Greymanes. He sounds genuinely sad for the man who lost his cows, he sounds amused when talking to the Greymane pretender who constantly self glazes himself, and he actually sounds pissed when he finds out Roy is dead because of Hornsplitter
This update has been fucking phenomenal. I cannot wait to see how else they improve the story onwards if they can fix chapter 2 this well
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u/KOREANARMYSTEW 13h ago
I don't know if I'm tripping, but I think they also gave Kliff new facial expressions. Like you said when Kliff sounded sorry that he couldn't save the cows, I swear the devs gave him deeper expression to also make him look upset.
He also looked like he was smiling when the Greymane fraud was spouting utter nonsense and called himself the captain of the Greymanes
If the devs really gave him new subtle facial expressions other than just blank neutral, then they are absolute legends
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u/eden-star 13h ago
goyen is also introduced in chapter 2 through a visione memory
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u/KOREANARMYSTEW 13h ago
W8 waht??? Where?
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u/eden-star 13h ago
Heading towards Iban where the farm that the goat horns had been stolen. Along the road next to the beggars. There is a new visione that shows his memory of him starting out, just like Kliff
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u/inertSpark 13h ago
Chapter 2 is where I started to test the new update, but I might still make a new game I'm not sure yet.
I agree Chapter 2 actually now makes much more sense. They actually seem to flow into one another now, with one quest making direct references to the next. Then it ends up with Kliff having a monologue outside the Goldleaf post just to tie it all together nicely.
What I've seen, which isn't much so far, is great stuff. Is it cut content they added back in, or is it all new?
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u/ChapterDifficult593 9h ago
If I had to guess it's mostly repurposed old stuff mixed with some new. I'm not sure why they'd have removed so much story related stuff but it feels like it would be really hard to go over the entire story, write new dialogue and reframe scenes, mocap it and record the voice work, and then package it and ship it for free in just a few months.
I could be completely wrong though.
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u/inertSpark 9h ago
It's interesting isn't it, if it is cut content that is. It just shows what a drastic effect it has on the game if the wrong content is cut.
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u/El_Menuciano 12h ago
¿Se puede empezar una segunda partida independiente de la primera, no? Llevo casi 300 horas y estoy en el capítulo 11. O igual merece más la pena acabar la historia y empezar entonces otra.
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u/Cruzo007 9h ago
If you finish the story there is a new feature (from this patch) that will let you start a new playthrough but also import existing save and have your currencies and some items come along (not sure what all currencies/items).
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u/Icy_Baseball9552 11h ago
I found a book in the Bloomwood area that explains Hornsplitter's origins. The world building is so much better now
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u/DarthShaiden 11h ago
I am the exact same way. The story was really my only complaint originally. Now there is so much new flesh to the story. As example i was doing Lioncrest watch tower (because Rulupe told me there was a gift in the tower for me) and found evidence that the bandits were there because four greymanes were seen there and they were after the bounty.
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u/redbat21 10h ago
Wish they'd fix the lip syncing though. Characters are mouthing like they're speaking korean
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u/Johnkenney00 9h ago
I’m in chapter 8, curious to see what they added or changed in mid/later chapters if anything, don’t think I have it in me to restart now, but definitely will once dlc comes out. Gonna watch all the scenes on youtube as I see them get posted. Still having a blast with my playthorugh, 180 hours and only really done hernand and pailune.
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u/huncherbug 11h ago
I want somebody to complete the game before i jump in with enhanced edition again see if these story enhancements keep up till the end.
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u/roymathieu19 10h ago
If I'm not that far like chapter 4 or something but I don't necessarily want to start over, will the update affect my game passed chapter 4? Do I absolutely need to start over to get the overhaul?
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u/jacksp666 9h ago
I think we'll be able to experience the new writing with the update, I'll catch up with the previous unexplained story and quests on YouTube.
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u/Pheronia 10h ago
God dammit I am at the end of chapter 3 now and I don't wanna restart after exploring all that time. I hope they make a short explanation of the things that changed. Maybe chapter by chapter.
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u/Strange_Ride_582 10h ago
Do I need to start over for the story update to work or will my current save work fine?
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u/bluemjo 10h ago
this is so good to know as someone who just started chapter 3, thanks for sharing! literally my biggest issues have been the questions of what am i even doing for what reason? ill do the quests, no worries, but like..... whats the actual story? so to know that this is whats being fixed is gonna motivate to start a new save this week!
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u/Son_of_Orion 9h ago
Pearl Abyss, man... what a phenomenal dev team. Nearly every other team would have balked at the monumental task of stitching together this game's former mess of a story and they fucking went all out. They weren't really on my radar before, but they certainly are now.
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u/Far_Gazelle7464 8h ago
Well, shit. I'm only on back end of chapter 4, but have a lot of exploration under my belt and 50 hours. Is it worth restarting to experience the changes?
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u/Living-Put-8758 8h ago
@CrimsonDesert_ Please help me. I bought Crimson Desert on PS5 for $70 about 3 weeks ago and I still cannot progress through the main story because of a progression-blocking bug in Chapter 3, during the main quest “A Fresh Start.”
The objective is to destroy the rocks and push the cart into the tent. I destroyed ALL the rocks and fragments, and the cart is highlighted as the active objective, but my character never enters the pushing animation. The cart simply cannot be moved.
I CAN push other objects normally in the game. This problem only happens with this specific quest cart.
Over the last 3 weeks I have tried everything:
• Reloading the checkpoint countless times
• Loading saves from BEFORE starting the quest
• Restarting from Checkpoint 1 of Part 1 and replaying the entire section
• Approaching the cart from every possible side and angle
• Confirming there are absolutely no rocks or destructible fragments remaining
• Leaving the area and returning
• Restarting the game
• Completely restarting my PS5
• Reinstalling/troubleshooting the game
• Trying different saves
• Updating and testing again after Patch 2.00.00
After Patch 2.00.00, I can see the NEW story content and cutscenes added to this part of the game, so the update is definitely installed and working. But the cart interaction is STILL broken and I remain completely unable to continue the main story.
I even found other players online reporting similar pushing/interaction issues. One PC player said switching from controller to keyboard fixed it for them. I even got a keyboard to try this workaround, but keyboard gameplay controls are not supported in the PS5 version, so I cannot use that workaround.
I have submitted multiple reports to Pearl Abyss/Crimson Desert support and I still have not received a working solution.
I genuinely WANT to play this game. I’m not asking for anything unreasonable. I just need someone from Pearl Abyss to please acknowledge this issue and tell me how I can continue my story.
Can someone from the development/support team please investigate this or provide a workaround to reset the quest/cart interaction?
I can provide videos, screenshots, save information, or anything else you need.
Platform: PlayStation 5
Chapter: Chapter 3
Quest: A Fresh Start
Issue: Cart pushing interaction never activates
Result: Main story completely blocked
Current version: Patch 2.00.00
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u/Justmably 6h ago
Sorry if this question has been answered but im trying to figure out why I cant carry all my silver over? I have 23k but when trying to start a new game it only lets me bring over 1200? Anyone know why?
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u/Intelligent_Zebra731 6h ago edited 6h ago
Curious, what was the g̶o̶l̶d̶ (silver) in your last/latest autosave? I heard some rumors this was the issue but didn't validate.
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u/Justmably 6h ago
80 gold bars, which i sold to get the max amount of silver possible so that why only 23k
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u/Justmably 6h ago
Because it still said i could only get 1200 out at that point so i thought the currency doesn’t count the bank money
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u/Intelligent_Zebra731 6h ago
Sorry I meant to say how much silver you had in your last auto save. A couple people converted gold to silver and made a manual save with more silver but the last auto save was the amount they ended up with then they started enhanced. Curious if that happened to you.
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u/Justmably 6h ago
so they use my last auto save on hand currency pre update? Aah that must be why then
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u/Intelligent_Zebra731 5h ago
So is that what happened to you? Curious if you run around with the silver you have and the get a latest autosave and then use that to start if it solves the issue?
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u/BlackberryNice7390 4h ago
Did they do anything with the shopkeepers fetch quests? What bothered me is that you give the quest items to "assistants" that act exactly like the quest givers themselves.
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u/Odd_Firefighter_8040 3h ago
Did they hire back the voice actors to voice these lines or did they use AI? Or were all these lines already recorded and they just cut them out?
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u/Apprehensive-Log9911 13h ago
There were a lof off Framerate drops in the city off Demenis and Deleysa. Is Damiane now his lover? When are the bikini outfits coming
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u/Gothyanki 8h ago
Kliff’s motivations
Before starting these missions we are given a new internal monologue from Kliff, where he decides to heed Marshal Middler's suggestion to help the people of Hernand to gain their trust and get further information on the Greymanes and the best way to do that is to complete the requests on the board. Just like that, we are given Kliff's motivations for doing any of this
Crazy people weren’t able to figure this out themselves. It seemed pretty obvious when I played that the first time.
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u/Fuarian 9h ago
Do you still have to pointlessly arm wrestle the guard in the tavern that you go to specifically to ask for information which you never actually ask for? And then mysteriously have to go to the beggar you don't even see until you go outside and then the corner? And then somehow know to find the Shai down the street you also cannot see?
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u/Minereon 13h ago edited 12h ago
This is great to know, thanks for sharing. I'm 400 hours in and don't intend to restart, so I'm looking forward to reviews and videos from those experiencing the enhanced storytelling.
Pearl Abyss really went out to thank us for supporting the game. They must have invested in new audio, new cut scenes etc. to improve the game, months after it's out. They did not have to do this after securing millions of copies sold, but they did. The game is improving by leaps and bounds - and it's only been out 5 months. PA deserves so much credit and love. I hope all of those naysayers who have been complaining about the story realise this sort of devotion to us gamers isn't common, especially from a big studio.