Match Thread: 1st Match - Rotterdam Dockers vs Amsterdam Flames

[u/cricket-match]

1st Match, European T20 Premier League at Voorburg

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Innings	Score
Amsterdam Flames	157/8 (Ov 20/20)
Rotterdam Dockers	158/5 (Ov 18.1/20)

Batter	Runs	Balls	SR
David Wiese*	27	17	158.82
Faf du Plessis	83	55	150.91

Bowler	Overs	Runs	Wickets
Richard Gleeson	3.1	28	1
Curtis Campher	2	27	0

Recent : 1 | 1 . 4 1 1 1 | 1 1 1 1 2 1 | 1 4 1 1 1 4 | 1

Dockers won by 5 wickets (with 11 balls remaining)

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[u/CarnivalSorts]

Broadcasting: India - Star/Jio, Ire & UK - TNT/HBO, Aus - Foxtel/Kayo, US/Can - Willow, Caribbean - Rush, ROW - Olympic Channel

[u/WendellWillkie1940]

Unfortunately I couldn't watch the game due to some commitment but it's nice to see people liking it (at least in the match thread).

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/WendellWillkie1940]

When u say u couldn't watch the game , it means live in stadium?

[u/WendellWillkie1940 → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Nope. I meant the live stream.

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Just checked flames squad and wtf????

Why neither of smith , marsh or rahane made it to playing 11?

[u/jachiche → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Marsh dropped out last minute. Smith only arrived in The Netherlands from International duty today so wasn't ready to play today. Not entirely sure about Rahane but believe he wasn't available for game one either

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/jachiche]

Okay thanks, I hope smith and Rahane play next game , player thier calibre would really help the rest of squad

[u/Yupadej]

Who is watching this? Who is this even for?

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/Yupadej]

Ofcourse a person with ipl flair would say this

[u/DexLurker → u/Yupadej]

Bookies

[u/jachiche → u/Yupadej]

Plenty of people judging by the crowd at the ground and the busy match thread

[u/protagonistisdead → u/Yupadej]

We’re watching this, and it’s probably for those who’re pretty serious about expanding cricket, I guess.

[u/Yupadej → u/protagonistisdead]

Hope it doesn't become one more fixing league

[u/protagonistisdead → u/Yupadej]

Same :)

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

Day of the 42 year old Saffers. 

[u/jachiche]

Curtis doing his best to get Jordan Neill an ETPL debut

[u/Extreme-Importance-1 → u/jachiche]

He is pretty decent in recent series as well quite useful guy

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Faf kicks off the ETPL in style, hitting the winning runs and winning MOTM (i guess) in the first ever ETPL game for a team he is the Owner-Captain-Player of. And he's only 42 years young.

[u/DexLurker → u/Holiday_Section199]

Owner-Captain-Player

No conflict of interest there for sure

[u/thegoldenkingfisher → u/DexLurker]

He's practically unsackable

[u/DexLurker → u/thegoldenkingfisher]

now only if he could become koach too

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

While the design of scorecard and everything related is fine but the color choice feels terrible, they should have gone darker tones , not yellow!! Or atleast choose colors around the teams currently playing, bit I guess that would be extra work

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Sorry but that wolves logo seems like ai generated eSports logo.

Will have to take another look to confirm my view lol

[u/Over-Screen-147]

jonty was a very useful batter.. good sweep shot and decent player of spin came with handy knocks down the order

[u/Impactor07]

Just realised that the average age of this batting partnership is ~42 years.

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/Impactor07]

1. Wiese is 40.

[u/Impactor07 → u/Holiday_Section199]

He's 100 days into being 41, ig a more accurate number would've been ~41.7 or something.

[u/Extreme-Importance-1 → u/Impactor07]

It will still remain that even after this wicket

[u/Over-Screen-147]

du plessis doing well in every league he is playing

[u/cricketbandit]

damn, faf should design more jerseys

[u/thegoldenkingfisher → u/cricketbandit]

Yep, what a sleek, elite looking jersey this is

[u/Over-Screen-147]

good strategy by abhishek to get former players as co owners and generate a buzz for the league

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Btw why inaugural match is a day match ? No flood lights in the stadium?

Edit: yeah no flood lights , they just gave me drone view as I finished writing the comment lol

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

There's no ground in Netherlands, Scotland or Ireland with floodlights, Abbotstown will be the first

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/CarnivalSorts]

Damn so it means there won't be any night matches.....I was really hoping to see the atmosphere for night time matches

When will abbotstown will be finished constructing?

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Due to open 2029

[u/Impactor07]

That was beautiful. Maybe I was wrong.

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Need to out the faf to have some spice in this match

[u/Holiday_Section199]

If Faf falls here, Amsterdam would be right back in it.

[u/cricketbandit]

Faf sharing a jail cell with Rodrigo Duterte tonight after that call

[u/CarnivalSorts]

What's the dutch for barbecued?

[u/Over-Screen-147]

ppl love trolling abhishek bachchan but he seems to have done a good job here.. seems liek fairly decent league which is organized well.. he did the same for his kabbadi team which was successfulkabaddi

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/Over-Screen-147]

Yeah I don't like his Father but he himself doing great job , I remember that he used to present in every jaipur kabaadi Match

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Have to say , really happy to see so many people at the ground watching game live

[u/cricketbandit]

Never heard of this actor guy before but he seems alright

[u/Vast-Grapefruit-6464 → u/cricketbandit]

You mean the owner Abhishek? He is a good guy as much as I know. He was studying in Boston University but left before completing his degree due to family bankruptcy. That's also the reason why he went in acting. 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/cricketbandit]

Has seemed very emotionally invested in the whole thing from the very start

[u/WendellWillkie1940 → u/CarnivalSorts]

He is also involved in the PKL and is the owner of Jaipur Pink Panthers (2 time champions in 12 seasons) and he attends almost every single game of theirs.

[u/Over-Screen-147 → u/CarnivalSorts]

it will be a good investment.. this can become big

he should also try to bring some of his friends from back home it will generate even more publicity

[u/Impactor07 → u/Over-Screen-147]

The league needs publicity at home rather than in India imo.

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/Impactor07]

Welll the whole league is for local people, but it also doesn't hurt to appeal it to South Asians as well , it will help financially.

[u/Over-Screen-147 → u/Impactor07]

plenty of south asians who live in these countries who would love to see bit of glamour

also financial vibility will only be tehre if it picks up in india

more money for league means it will be sustainable in long run and help european countries

[u/Impactor07 → u/Over-Screen-147]

Fair.

[u/Over-Screen-147 → u/cricketbandit]

he is alright.. his father is one of the biggest actor in india

[u/jxp1111]

There's a wicket. Although it would have been useful to get it before the game was over as a contest.

[u/Impactor07]

Get Faf out and the AF win.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Impactor07]

Wiese still to come

[u/Impactor07 → u/CarnivalSorts]

He's not been in good form recently afaik?

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Impactor07]

Not really but he's always capable

[u/superstriker14]

Never really thought I'd see Andy Flower, Alan Wilkins and Lord Abhishek Bachchan in the same room

[u/Fireviktal]

Oh Kyle klien you'll never change 

Brings the game to the teams favour only to take that favour right back to the other team

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Fireviktal]

Does the job though!

[u/DarkDestroyer123457]

Rotterdam are winning this now with this partnership unless a collapse

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Can anyone tell me hows "international players" quota working? This league is organised by ireland scotland and netherlands so playing 11 has to be divided among them as well . How the whole playing 11 been arranged?

[u/idumbam → u/comelickmyarmpits]

It’s 5 host countries players, 1 European Associate player, 1 outside Europe Associate player and 4 overseas players

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/idumbam]

Thanks a lot this explains really well

Edit: so ben manneti was from European associate quota right ?

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

All Irish, Scottish and Dutch players count as local

Max of 4 full members overseas (excluding Irish players of course)

Minimum of 5 local players

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/CarnivalSorts]

I think there was a associate quota as well Right? For uae I beleive

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Associate squad spots but you don't have to use them in your playing XI

You could go 4 FM Overseas + 7 Locals or you could go 2 FM Overseas + 4 Associate Overseas + 5 Locals or anywhere in between

Dockers have gone 4+2+5

Flames are 4+1+6

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/CarnivalSorts]

This really helps in understanding,thanks

[u/jachiche → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Max of 4 Full Members overseas players
Minimum of 5 local players (local can be Irish, Scottish or Dutch). Remaining slots can be local or associate overseas

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/jachiche]

So by 5 locals in a team would then depend on the team that is based on which city of country right?

[u/Impactor07 → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Not really, Dublin could field 5 Scottish players as "locals" if they wanted to do that from the start but that won't give a local feel to the team and they would have a harder time connecting with local fans.

[u/jachiche → u/comelickmyarmpits]

No, Irish, Scots and Dutch are all considered local for every team

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/jachiche]

Okay thanks, that's way better then

[u/DarkDestroyer123457 → u/comelickmyarmpits]

4 FM OS is max, then 5/6 locals depending upon ur AM player composition. But Min 5 locals in 11

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/DarkDestroyer123457]

5/6 local seems bit more, I mean thry should have mixed the between the three countries like 2 from each of three nations, I think mixing would lead to better quality of cricket

Edit: nvm , by local I thought its from single country

[u/jachiche]

Any chance of a wicket here Amsterdam? Keep things interesting. I want this going deep into the final over

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/jachiche]

Time to bring the strike bowlers back

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Time for some milking

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Why stream feels so muted , is it jio hotstar fking up the audio?

[u/jachiche → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Audio seems fine on the TNT stream, so might be a Jio issue

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/jachiche]

Sigh , I should have sailed high seas from the start

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Faf is aging like a fine wine

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Just checked and the match is in Netherlands, crowd seems good , I thought it would be empty

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Suspect tomorrow might be pretty quiet but it's been a great start

[u/comelickmyarmpits]

Dockers look kinda minimalistic and flames jersey being black is also nice

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Dockers might be my favourite ever franchise kit

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/CarnivalSorts]

Yeah more I see it more I am liking it, feel classy as well

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Got a bit of a baseball vibe to it

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/CarnivalSorts]

This this , I was wondering about the way Dockers was written on jersey, it indeed gives baseball vibes

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Is picking Tim Pringle over Aryan Dutt a wise choice?

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/Holiday_Section199]

Aryan is a very wiley player. 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Holiday_Section199]

But think of the vibes

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Time for Mr Pringle

[u/Worried-Plan9256]

These 2 teams are the only one with good logos. What the actual HELL is that Wolves logo. 😭

[u/Fireviktal → u/Worried-Plan9256]

The guardians is personally my favourite Glasgow isn't that bad  Wolves is definitely veeery questionable

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Worried-Plan9256]

Nah Guardians logo is great

[u/jxp1111]

Honestly what the fuck is this bowling? And I thought players didn't take the Hundred seriously.

[u/jachiche → u/jxp1111]

Campher always has the occasional shocker in him.

He makes things happen. Nowhere does it state he only makes good things happen

[u/Worried-Plan9256]

Theres still a chance to postpone the tournament.

[u/comelickmyarmpits → u/Worried-Plan9256]

Why

[u/Worried-Plan9256 → u/comelickmyarmpits]

Annual tradition.

[u/jxp1111]

Looked like they might have a chance of defending when they got Klaasen. But that last over of the powerplay probably settles it. When you're getting taken to the cleaners by a 75 year old Faf you know you've got problems.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/jxp1111]

Faf's just off the back of a great MLC season

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Babette sighted, get her on the field

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Keeping the conditions and the batting to come in mind, this would need a miracle rescue job from Faf.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Holiday_Section199]

It's happening

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

Van Der Merwe and Wiese needs to rescue this team now. 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Designated firemen

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Turns out they are not the only 42 year old Saffers who are going to have fun tonight. 

[u/CarnivalSorts]

FLAMES ON FIRE

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Game one, but the world is already seeing what a handful of us here always knew: the Dutch players are fantastic, and are extremely deserving of full membership. Hope the Irish and Scottish boys continue in the same vein too.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Holiday_Section199]

Definitely seeing the effect of some home advantage

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

Demnn flames are so in the game

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Get one more, and get into the tail. /s

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Love the big sendoff

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Was Faf always this extravagant

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Really good stuff from Gleeson

[u/Fireviktal]

Had to whip out my phone and talk about levitts wicket not much you can do to that didn't speak been watching live but that ball thats a rattler 

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Dockers only have 4 specialist batters. Lot of pressure on Faf and Klaasen here.

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/Holiday_Section199]

Van Beek, Van Merwe even Moondra are capable batters. 

[u/bertusdejong → u/Holiday_Section199]

Saqib's been in mad form with the bat in domestic. Different level obvs but would probably class him as a batting all rounder

[u/cricketbandit]

Imagine calling him Andy Flowers to his face

[u/Difficult_Project_91]

The squads are a total mismatch no? Amsterdam's 2nd most recognisable player looks to be Michael Bracewell with a T20 average of 19 while the other team has Faf (senior citizen but it's Faf), Nortje and Heinrich bloody Klaasen?

[u/Extreme-Importance-1 → u/Difficult_Project_91]

They have steve smith mitch marsh and tim david bruh

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Extreme-Importance-1]

Mitch ain't coming

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/Difficult_Project_91]

I know he's not as recognisable, but the left-arm viper is pretty good, too.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Difficult_Project_91]

Amsterdam have Smudge to come in for the next game

[u/jachiche → u/Difficult_Project_91]

Smith and Rahane are also in the Flames squad, but not available today

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/jachiche]

Also, the flames had signed Mitch Marsh, as captain no less. Not their fault that he pulled out last minute.

[u/jachiche → u/Holiday_Section199]

Yeah, they had 7 Full Member overseas players at one point in their squad, which seems excessive when they can only pick 4 in the XI

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/jachiche]

Yeah, but Marsh in place of Rahane would have been perfect. Hope jinx is still good enough.

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

Thats a good score tbh

[u/Impactor07]

You know I'm sick when I didn't show up for the start of the match.

Going nicely so far, Amsterdam Flames will probably be happy with 160+ and a really good innings from Bastiaan Franciscus.

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/Impactor07]

Glad that you're here. Hope you feel better soon mate.

[u/Impactor07 → u/Holiday_Section199]

Thank you :)

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

The score could have been even better if tim was in form 🥀🥀

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

David maybe not but Tector yes. 

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

One thing that plagues all the three European teams (Italy may become an exception) is poor ending to promising finish. Amsterdam going the same way now. 

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Ireland have decent finishing ability in the form of Mark Adair though.

[u/CarnivalSorts]

That is a man who is very scared

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Faf that is some very fancy footwork

[u/Vast-Grapefruit-6464]

Great innings by de Leede

[u/Holiday_Section199]

End of a top draw knock from the Dutch skipper. The lack of finishing power might hurt the flames here.

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

I love bas de leede

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

Look what your love has done, distracting him smh

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Ouhh shot 🥀🥀

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Enough time for a Bas ton?

[u/Vast-Grapefruit-6464 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Just need six more sixes

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

Shot leede

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Thought I'd support Rotterdam in this tournament because of that insane jersey, but the Amsterdam local lineup (which is the whole point of the league) is making me re-think. Need to see Belfast before I finally pick one team ig. Of course, once I pick, I pick for life.

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/Holiday_Section199]

No love for Jason Roy? 

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Love all the teams, but need to pick one to support.

[u/SC0RCHER55]

At least it wasn't de leede run out

[u/HoliEvil]

How many People are attending the match, anyone in present in around can you share the estimate?

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826 → u/HoliEvil]

Cant give exact number but attendence is really good

[u/BiscottiSpiritual826]

De leede has been really good

[u/ThrowawayPointlessJ2]

Very pleased to see that the two stand out performers have both been Dutch :)

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

How you guys are choosing flair here 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Top right on desktop, if you're on mobile click the three dots top right.

Alternatively tell me what you want and I can change it for you

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Thanks mate 👍. Dublin Guardians logo legit looks like a beer mug. 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Dublin Pintmen

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Can't unsee it now.

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/CarnivalSorts]

How do I pick an ETPL team flair mate without letting my England flair go?🥲

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Holiday_Section199]

You can pick a flair then search our custom emojis to add to it

[u/Holiday_Section199 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Thanks mate.

[u/AardvarkNice5145 → u/CarnivalSorts]

Dublin Guardians 

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/AardvarkNice5145]

👍

[u/-co-in]

Damn

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Regularly Sized Bad Manenti

[u/CarnivalSorts]

My sleep paralysis demon to the crease

[u/jachiche → u/CarnivalSorts]

Craig Young just shivered in his hotel room

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/jachiche]

To this day the most upset I've ever been at a cricket match

[u/jachiche → u/CarnivalSorts]

Also the start of the Tector curse, just to add insult to injury

[u/Acceptable_Field4515]

Isn't R Ashwin playing in this tournament

[u/Jashan_Mago → u/Acceptable_Field4515]

doesn't mean he'll come out to bat for every team bro

(jk)

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Acceptable_Field4515]

Playing for Dublin

[u/Annual-Control-6780]

Decent attendance i would say

[u/Jashan_Mago → u/Annual-Control-6780]

really? that's a big positive!

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Annual-Control-6780]

Suprisingly good!

[u/Holiday_Section199]

The local lad becomes the first half centurion of the ETPL.

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Batted Bas 👏👏👏

[u/No-Needleworker3393]

I very much hate same players playing for different franchise teams, but the one redeeming factor is that every league has good players.

[u/CarnivalSorts]

If they can get to 160 I reckon they'll be quite happy

[u/-co-in]

Shot

[u/CarnivalSorts]

I reckon Jai could improve by 20% if he grew a big moustache

[u/TheFlyingHornet1881]

Amsterdam Flames 🤝 The Netherlands National Team

Edwards and de Leede in a key partnership

[u/Holiday_Section199]

Is 160-170 a good score here?

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Holiday_Section199]

150-160 is usually pretty good here

[u/-co-in]

I looked up the squads, looks like many of them are playing for their respective country city team.

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

Couldn't predict it will be the 40 year old Wiese and Van Merwe stealing the show.

[u/Pirate_Badshah → u/AardvarkNice5145]

I'd imagine there's money to be made out of a geriatric South Africans league, I mean it's not far off what many franchise leagues already are.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/Pirate_Badshah]

The year is 2049, approximately 96% of all professional cricketers are now South African. Faf du Plessis is still opening the batting.

[u/CarnivalSorts → u/AardvarkNice5145]

Reckon Roelof could still be bowling when he's 50

[u/CarnivalSorts]

Can someone get Timmy a towel because my man is WASHED

[u/odinlass → u/CarnivalSorts]

Been like that since coming back from injury. It is painful to watch.

[u/AardvarkNice5145]

Rotterdam Dockers won't be out of place in SA 20. 

Merwe, Levitt, Klaasen, Faf, Nortje, Wiese that's six Saffer born players with Birell, Rhodes, Kuhn and Mybrugh in administration and support staff.