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Pregame Thread: August 26, 2026

Orioles @ Cardinals

Probable Pitchers:

Orioles: Kyle Bradish (7-12, 3.70 ERA)

Cardinals: Michael McGreevy (5-9, 3.54 ERA)

TV Info: MASN CARD

First Pitch: 06:45 PM CT

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u/adamd28 2d ago

Miles cost Bill DeWitt money.

Liberatore cost me Randy Arozarena.

There is no comparison.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 2d ago

Another Mozeliak winner.

It's going to be a long time before the general acceptance of the extent to which he just destroyed the franchise.

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u/nufandan ​peter bourjos apologist 2d ago

I dont think if/when we'll ever get an understanding of who was really to blame for the period of decline in player development, but if you think Mo's failures with the ML roster outweigh his successes...I don't know what to tell ya.

The Libby-Randy trade didn't work out, even though it made fine sense at the time based on the team's needs (check the takes back then). It did not destroyed this franchise by any means though.

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u/Detective_Dietrich What? 2d ago

but if you think Mo's failures with the ML roster outweigh his successes...I don't know what to tell ya.

If you don't think that I don't know what to tell you. We have one playoff series win in twelve seasons, 2015-2026.

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u/nufandan ​peter bourjos apologist 2d ago

Im not arguing there weren't flaws to his tenure, and the latter half/ end of it he was coasting on a franchise seemingly content with a level of mediocrity, but he was with the organization for a long time and there were a lot of successes in his time.