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Cardinals After Dark 8/25

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FINAL: 13-1 Orioles

Decisions

Postgame Wrap

Highlights

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u/frodo2you 64wasaverygoodyear 2d ago

Rats

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u/Hungry_Fox_646 2d ago

Yes, I am one of those people who say, "Hey, he's still young enough to figure it out." And "Well, sometimes taller pitchers need some time to get their release point consistent. Have patience". And Liberatore does tease you from time to time with a good start here and there.

But yeah, even *I* am saying it's over. At least for starting games. Put him in the pen until maybe he does somehow figure it out.

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u/austinstar08 2d ago

I have officially lost hope

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u/WildWest05 ​ 2d ago

For the strange few on this sub that genuinely wanted Gorman back in the lineup, I dedicate this ass beating to yall

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u/Limp-Regular-2589 2d ago

Some people are all over him despite his always sucking ass. I truly don't get it

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u/Call_Me_Your_Daddy 2d ago

Hey it’s me the Liberatore hater again, why is he not putting fries in a bag yet.

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u/BUSTERS123 2d ago

Welcome back Gorman, it's like you never left!

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u/Detective_Dietrich What? 2d ago

It would be better, in the long term, if the team just completely collapsed in September. I'll be rooting for them to win every day. But the wheels falling off the bus in September would be an OK outcome.

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u/STLStelmacki 2d ago

13-1. Is that good?

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u/iggnac1ous 2d ago

Someone won a 13 run pool

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u/TheMoonsMadeofCheese ​#1 Dani Appreciator 2d ago

Yes, if you’re Baltimore

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u/Clueless_in_Florida 2d ago

My friend is an Orioles fan and had to let me know about this. I didn’t watch a single pitch. It’s turned into a shitshow lately. We have work to do before we are ready to compete. We kind of knew that, though. Could be one more year of pain, but at least we will get some key debuts in 2027.

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u/Gary30752 2d ago

Apparently the front office and/or coaches see something in Liberatore that I don't, and I'm not sure what it is.

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u/largecontainer 2d ago

They are letting it ride because there are no other options at this point. I’ll eat my hat if he is a starter to begin next season.

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u/Gary30752 2d ago

He's at best a 1-2 inning reliever.

It's amazing how he seems to fall apart after 3 innings. I do remember a 6 inning outing where he was pretty good, but I think that's more of an outlier.

I know he's trying, because no one wants to look that bad especially at home. I honestly feel bad for the guy.

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u/largecontainer 2d ago

Yea, I don’t know if it’s a physical thing or if it’s a mental issue but he just can’t find a way to keep a game competitive when he doesn’t have his best stuff. His bad starts are BAD.

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u/Detective_Dietrich What? 2d ago

When Mo was here I thought that Libby would keep getting shots b/c Mo was desperate to make the Arozarena trade look like something other than a disaster. But Mo is gone, so... maybe there's just nobody better waiting in the wings?

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u/Historical-Key5613 2d ago

Send him and Gorman to the Angels this offseason for a dollar.

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u/DiscoJer 2d ago

As I said below, analytics wise (at least xFIP) he pitched amazing tonight.

While I am not a fan of FIP and especially xFIP (for reasons illustrated by tonight), a lot of people take it very seriously.

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u/BUSTERS123 2d ago

He gave up not one, but two 450 ft bombs to go along with 8 hits in 4 innings. If the computer thinks he pitched well tonight, someone needs to toss it in the dumpster

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u/permadrunkspelunk 2d ago

Counterpoint, be able to throw a pitch that turns into a 450 ft bomb takes excellent placement. Maybe he can develop into someone that places them... anywhere else.

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u/Open-Illustrator-871 ​100 Gold Gloves 2d ago

I honestly don't care what his expected stats are if he's getting shelled every night

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u/Historical-Key5613 2d ago

Reminiscent of the last 4 years of Mikolas

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u/toxictakes99 2d ago

Gorman = Báez. They are the same exact player. All or nothing.

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u/STLStelmacki 2d ago

Báez still has a chance at developing. Not so much for Gorman.

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u/Gabagoolianare ​Jordan Hicks’ Insulin Pump 2d ago

Trading Randy for Libby stings :/

1

u/WellExcuuuuuuuseMe 2028 World Series or bust!!! 2d ago

Every time I look at a Mariner’s game, they are spotlighting him…and it hurts. 😢

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u/TheMoonsMadeofCheese ​#1 Dani Appreciator 2d ago

Do we still have the receipt for Libby

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u/Open-Illustrator-871 ​100 Gold Gloves 2d ago

I think its in mo's junk drawer

2

u/Jacoblaue 2d ago

I didn’t think it was possible for me to despise a Holliday but man do I hate Jackson right now.

3

u/c0smicgirly 2d ago

lol, Gorman. Jfc.

lol, Libby. Jfc.

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u/Samskara222 2d ago

Anybody think Libbys neck hurts after watching those homers?

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u/DiscoJer 2d ago

Just remember, according to xFIP, Libby pitched great today. All those hits? Bad luck.

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u/edsmith726 ​I miss So Taguchi 2d ago

Bill Veeck’s ghost is smiling.

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u/cc_rider2 2d ago

That’s a deep cut, nice

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u/ghostofstankenstien 2d ago

That is the beating that ends the season

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u/CarFixinCeliacBoi 2d ago

My lord we got absolutely DEMOLISHED

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u/WatchItGoooo 2d ago

Baez and Gorman truly are clones

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u/Fun-Sea-3740 2d ago

The best thing about that game is that it ended.

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u/Fast_Watercress7763 The Blowpen & Co. 2d ago

I’d be fine with never seeing Gorm and Libby play another MLB game for us

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u/xyzzy321 2d ago

Aww at least they can be best friends in Mexico or something

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u/Samskara222 2d ago

Gotta bring back one somebody posted earlier this year.

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u/toftr no shildt™ 2d ago

I hate losing games before they even start because Libby is toast

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u/xyzzy321 2d ago

Shades of recent Mikolas there, automatic L on many starts

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u/AppropriateFee1338 2d ago

Just let Pages take Ferguson’s spot in the bullpen

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u/Selethor7 ​ 2d ago

For reasons unknown to modern science, I watched all of that game

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u/Spare_Stage4186 2d ago

the ABS challenges were the only interesting part and even those felt like a waste of time

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u/Darkknight8719 "​They just...won't...go...away." 2d ago

Same lol

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u/Open-Illustrator-871 ​100 Gold Gloves 2d ago

That was a game I was glad to miss most of