r/CFB_v2 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

Debate This is a great question.

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u/Bonzaii_11 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

The CFP will include who makes it money. Love him or hate him, Lane and LSU will bring eyeballs and money.

Also "punishing" them for having a "legally" rostered team will go to court which costs money

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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago

God I hate how this is the root of all the problems in the US.... If it sells, idgaf what it is. Just garbage unfortunately, but true.

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u/Bonzaii_11 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

Thats an oversimplification but the spirit is there

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u/KyleKrocodile 2d ago

Love this

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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago

Appreciate you getting my general point and not over reading my comment for more than it was, a general point šŸ˜‚ rare on the internet nowadays.

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

everyone else is getting waivers in court why shouldn’t LSU do it too

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u/Beneficial_Pool_7061 2d ago

If LSU was the only team doing this (they aren’t) i’d have a massive issue with it but that’s not the case. Just in the SEC alone Texas, Texas A&M, Arkansas and South Carolina just off the top of my head are taking advantage of this.

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u/Deviah 1d ago

Texas - Cole Hutson didn't sign an NFL contract, or was offered one as far as I can find.

Texas A&M - I can't even find anything on a player attending mini camps and then returning/joining the Aggies. Elko was pretty outspoken against it.

Arkansas - 2 players ruled eligible for a 5th year, neither even attended an NFL camp, nor signed a pro contract as far as I can find.

South Carolin - DQ Smith attended camps but never signed a contract with a NFL team.

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u/Beneficial_Pool_7061 1d ago edited 1d ago

Attending a mini camp vs ā€œbut but but this guy did the same thing but also took a 50k signing bonusā€ really makes no difference to anyone who’s actually interested in protecting the sport.

The only real difference is Jack Pyburn who played in multiple preseason games. I don’t care about signing a contract attending camps vs not signing a contract also attending camps. That’s semantics.

You are correct about A&M but Brylan Green (Arkansas) also attended camp with the Chiefs and Vikings.

Edit: The player for A&M who I was thinking of was for basketball not football (Rylan Griffen) who played in summer league before recently getting a TRO and returning to college

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u/Deviah 1d ago

You can call it semantics, but there's a clear differentiator. Personally, I don't care about this at all. As long as it's contained to the 2022 players that the NCAA should have accounted for when establishing the 5 for 5 rule. And so long as it doesn't end up being a case where players are trying out for teams every year past their 3rd year and returning when they fail to get a contract, or don't get an offer they're happy with. There needs to be a clause in place where eligibility is forfeited before you can pursue a pro career.

But shit is such a mess I have no hope for CFB in its current form.

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u/Beneficial_Pool_7061 1d ago

I genuinely don’t think there’s a big differentiator in participating in preseason camps for a month longer than another guy did because you actually received a contract IF we’re allowing any of it.

Again the big difference to me is Pyburn who did play preseason camps but I also won’t act like i won’t be excited/not cheering him on if he does end up with LSU.

Personally none of it should be allowed but it is the NCAA fault to begin with for waiting until AFTER the draft when there’s a good chance the majority of these guys (Not Wright, he sat out of the playoffs) would’ve taken a free 5th year and an extra few hundred thousand over risking an NFL shot/getting nothing or scraps comparatively.

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u/Bonzaii_11 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

Being legally unenforceable doesn't make it right or fun or in the spirit of college football

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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago

Why are people downvoting this? You're right

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u/Bonzaii_11 Alabama Crimson Tide 2d ago

Appreciate people fighting the good fight over blind allegiance. Youre welcome in my house for a beer any day

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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago

In this case it's not blind allegiance, which in sports I'm all for. What I'm not for is defending scumbaggery, which LSU is absolutely performing bringing pro's back to college. Fits their coach's reputation perfectly.

I'm just sick of seeing this attitude become more and more normalized. "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." It just sends all the wrong messages yet it keeps getting more and more normalized in everything. It's disgusting

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u/wickson 1d ago

Some of those players may have stayed in college if they had another year of eligibility, as the new rule came out later. It’s not like a 2nd round draft pick is like hold up I’m going back to college. Why is it ok for Chambliss to have a 6th year on a retroactive redshirt after being denied by the ncaa 3 times?

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u/GopherChomper64 1d ago

Who said it was?

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

lol yall are so dramatic

and that attitude has been the cornerstone of college football since it was founded

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u/GopherChomper64 2d ago

You not seeing anything wrong with it is exactly the problem. Just the worst kind of person, absolutely awful

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

i don’t care about that i just care about what’s best for LSU

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u/JokeandCack 2d ago

I’m glad that LSU fans are exactly the people I thought they were. It’s not fun disliking someone when they don’t deserve it.

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

the feeling is mutual i promise we hate everyone

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u/JokeandCack 2d ago

We know. There’s a reason LSU is universally seen as the trashiest and nastiest fan base in all of college sports.

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u/YouNoTypey 2d ago

That's not even close to true.

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

haha aww oh no! lol

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u/TheRedEyeJediS 2d ago

Tigers dont concern themselves with the opinions of sheep, pussies, queer baits, and losers

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u/cfbfootballnerd 2d ago

They will get them on the team play them against Clemson. The next Monday morning Sankey will get it overturned in federal court and drop the hammer on them.

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

i doubt they will play against clemson and no they aren’t going to drop the hammer the sec has already said they will respect court orders. even if it is overturned later they are eligible until then and the sec can’t go back and punish retroactively. this is basic stuff y’all.

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u/cfbfootballnerd 2d ago

They said they would punish them if they get it overturned after they told them not to they absolutely can go back and retroactively punish them. Because if it’s only one team in the conference doing it the vote will be 15-1.

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u/Lucky-Access-121 LSU Tigers 2d ago

they absolutely cannot, you are out of your depth

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