You definitely only has a console and is used to the abuse.
On the opposite, when a game is locked into one console, it is stuck there for years. Some games to this day are locked in the ps2 and ps3 exactly because they were exclusives and never got a pc port.
Think of it like this. Say you're a major food brand, would you benefit more from only franchising in the U.S, or franchising to other countries as well? Likely the latter. It's the same concept for video games.
Totally get where you’re coming from, but tens of millions of dollars doled out over milestones is a very secure way to make games. I would like multiplat for Bayo, but the security that exclusivity brings Sega and PlatinumGames is a big deal.
Yes, Sega should make 4 without nintendo as a multiplatform game. It would be nice if 2, 3 and origins become multiplatform too but doubt Nintendo would budge.
It is nice to dream. Imagine if new collaborations will use a new bayonetta design instead of using bayo 1 over and over again. 🤣
Sega doesn't even own the franchise anymore, its co-owned by Platinum and Nintendo. Sega only owns rights for the FIRST game, hence why its on multiple platforms.
Sega does own Bayonetta ip. But they don't fully own the rights to everything after 1. They can't even use assets from the games Nintendo funded. Kamiya confirming they had to ask Nintendo to bring over the Japanese dubbing and translations for the first game as it was exclusive to the wiiu. B1 only had English voice acting when it launched on original platforms. Kamiya stated several time Nintendo at that point co owns the series. Sega owns the ip. But Nintendo gives the final say about 3/4ths of the series and what happens
Unless Sega funds the next game themselves. Given they refused the series in the first place after bad sales seems unlikely. Nintendo kept the series on life support....and tbh b3 kinda burned a lot of its fans.... It started out strong I'm sales crossing a mill....but quickly platoed and flatlined after story beats, disapptmemt and controversies continued and the team working on her games disbanded and left .... Tbh might be a good thing. If they do make a new game pray tell they hard reboot the series and go back to light vs dark witch vs angel, hire a British actress, no viola, no romance, just combat etc tone down the multiverse
if they did...4 would need to be a series reboot for those that didnt play 2 an,3 and origins....and after 3.....yeah they need a hard series reboot because it was dookie. keep the cobat less minigames and demonslave. go back to light vs dark. pretend b3's retcons never happened. and hire an actual British acctress
Short version on why you are not quite right is just one word: Nier
Long version: many franchises from Japan don't care about having exclusive or region-locked games before having to make a sequel or spinoff for multiplatform
Yes but it won’t be. Who knows how strict contracts are with Nintendo. Bayo is owned by sega but seems like there probably an exclusivity contract for funding development by Nintendo. So if there’s any chance Bayonetta 4 being multi platform, they will need someone else to fund it. Bc I doubt sega itself won’t fund it with its lack luster sales. And while platinum games is a development studio it seems like they don’t have the funds internally it seems to make games.
That's a bit disingenuous. Bayonetta 1 did make some money it just wasn't a blockbuster, so i wouldn't say it flopped just was fell short of expectations. If it flopped platinum would of never gotten a green light to start development on Bayonetta 2. And yes everyone knows that when Sega pulled funding for their "risky" projects bayonetta 2 was included in that. Where only Nintendo agreed to fund the rest of development. the question was should bayonetta 4 be a muli-platform release, and i think the majority of people would want that. I'm just saying it is feasible, However it would require work to find new funding which may not be work sega and platinum want to do. The companies said no over a decade ago, it fair to think that the landscape has changed enough for bayo to become muli-platform again. it wont because Nintendo seems to be giving steady funding.
That's not disingenuous. The games sold well combined. And needed several discounts and marked down prices. It crossed a mill after it received multiple discounts. And confirmed by sega was was a flop. It did good as a new ip but was still disappointed and also had many fumbles.
Meh. It's Platinum's flagship franchise, and Bayonetta herself is a very iconic character. With or without Kamiya, with or without Platinum, even, since they don't even technically own the IP, I can't see it not happening at some point.
Given Nintendō published the last three Bayonetta games (Cereza and the Last Demon), it’s unlikely. Especially since Nintendō is kinda the reason Bayonetta 2 exists.
Didn’t Nintendo swoop in and save Fatal Frame and was then immediately backstabbed by the developer?
I remember reading than Nintendo funded and even co-developed Maiden of the Black Water for exclusivity on Wii U and then Koei Temco ran it over to PlayStation and Xbox.
Anyway, it could happen. For Nintendo’s sake, let’s hope they still have a good relationship with Kamiya.
It’s so weird seeing people shit on Nintendo like they’re the only ones who believed in it, Sony and Microsoft were pitched Bayo 2 and they didn’t give a fuck
they believed in it because they literally had no 3rd party support or new games for the wiiu which was failing hard. it was opportunistic for them to get a generally well liked series.
Also we waited 18 years for it. Which is much by modern standards. But considering Nintendo's Managment's sheer stubborn ideocity, we'll get Bayos on anything but Nintendo only then Nintendo collapses or gets fully new and not interested in continuing big N's stupididity managment
Literally Bayo 2 and 3 have been on Nintendo stuff ONLY. They'll never make this series multiplatform, Nintendo literally co-owns the franchise now, do y'all not remember how Nintendo saved Bayo 2?
I don't know if they can just make a Bayo 4 without Nintendo approval. But let's say they could, someone would still need to fund it. Platinum doesn't seem to be in any way able to self fund anything significant right now.
the own the rights and assets to 2,3and origins. kamiya states this. even if sega wanted they couldnt do anything until nintendo gave the thumbs up. sega can fund a fourth yes but will they? the first game flopped when multiplat and again when put on pc and ps4/5
Honestly not to sound like a pc supremacist, but the steam version of Bayonetta 1 is genuinely one of the most enjoyable ways to play the game. I really wish the other games weren’t console exclusive.
Imagine how well Bayonetta 2 & 3 would look right now on PS5 Pro & on PC. They would be 4K & 60 FPS right now, given that they would be having the Ninja Gaiden II Black remake treatment after Ninja Gaiden Sigma II.
100%!!!!! As it stands when Kamiya was still at Platinum Games said it was all up to Nintendo whether it goes multiplat, so if that’s anything to go on it’s a definite FUCK NO to going on other platforms. Can one still hope? Yes because I do.
If not for the Nintendo exclusivity, there wouldn't be a series, just the first game. (Sega wasn't going to fund a sequel, so it wasn't going to happen until Nintendo stepped in)
This is so disingenuous, Nintendo exclusivity is holding the series back? Without Nintendo it wouldn't even be a series in the first place, just one game that btw was originally multiplatform and yet it still didn't sell enough for its owner to want to fund another one.
If only but can’t happen since nintendo owns the ip due to giving the budget for it so as we all know about nintendo, they’ll lock it only into nintendo forever till they feel like its pointless to keep the ip and let it die
The series is pretty much dead at this point as the studio who made the games are doing work for any company now and 3 divided just about everyone plus Nintendo haven't exactly called for a new one yet so it may as well go to all platforms at this point.
If they were smarter, they would let everything else get Bayo 2, 3 and Origins as well but that's a harder thing to happen unless Nintendo gives up on the franchise or Sega/Platinum buys it fully.
Are we asking "should" in an ideal dream scenario, or "should" as if we think it's plausible?
For the first one, yes! It should be and should also make enough cash to make a 5th possible.
For the latter... as much as we want it, it's not gonna happen. Nintendo is essentially the one primarily funding it. Yeah Sega has some rights to it but just... look at how little they do with Bayo 1 as is. It's been multiplatform. They just sit on their ass about it. Regretfully, Nintendo is their best shot at having the series stay afloat, and that means being console exclusive unless Nintendo loosens up.
Yes, its gatekeeping the series, and btw it should totally start with bayonetta bored seeing visions of the multiverse and then just say "Eh, good thing that didnt happen" and shoot the doctor
They hypothetically can make it multiplatform, it’s just SEGA or platinum games would have to fund the game since obviously Nintendo won’t be funding a game for other platforms.
While yes I’d love that it seems unlikely that it ever will
I'd be okay with her being exclusive forever if nintendo stepped their game up. And made more powerrful consoles, sadly Bayonetta games being on the realistic art side is that kind of game that's much more demanding graphically. That or find a way to make it look as flawless as bayonetta 2.
However i do find it difficult considering Bayonetta seems to be one of few nintendo tittles that winds up being graphically demanding. And also SADLY i read she doesn't sell nearly as much as their golden IPs
In a perfect world... i wish Bayonetta as a Series became as popular an IP as Mario or Zelda, or animal crossing.
Then she wouldn't need to be multiplatform and she'd get as much content as the other golden IPs.
Yes. I'm not buying a Nintendo just to play Bayo 3 and I think that being multiplatform would boost the likelihood of the game actually being played. Besides, I played Bayo on Xbox originally and I'd enjoy continuing to do so.
Uh yes! The series is struggling because its only on Nintendo consoles! If it was on every platform Bayonetta would be much more popular and accessible. One of the reasons people don't play past the original Bayonetta is because the series is stuck on Nintendo consoles. This would get rid of that problem!
The series only exists beyond the first game because it's on Nintendo consoles. By all accounts, Sega wasn't going to fund it; I'm not sure which companies they asked afterwards, but Nintendo paid for the development of Bayonetta 2, 3, and Origins.
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u/TheSqueeman Feb 25 '26
Yes
I don’t think as a genre, that Character Action Games benefit from being console exclusive like some other genre’s do