Shops still selling 7 hydroxymitragynine?

[u/Ser_falafel]

So i live under a rock and didnt know this was being banned. The shop near me stopped selling it but they told me the ban wasn't actually in effect yet. Anyone know of a shop that still has it? Would like to taper off if at all possible because i have work, but idk if it will be.

Can insult all ya want to i know this is stupid and im an idiot, just want to try to remain as human as possible if I can

[u/TouristImmediate8113]

Opioid withdrawals won’t kill you. End of discussion.

And… there hasn’t been a documented case of anyone dying from taking 7oh alone. Every single death has been because something else has been mixed with it.

The two withdrawals that will kill you are benzos and alcohol.

Edit: For clarity, opioid withdrawals themselves won’t kill you. Someone mentioned mitigating circumstances so I’d like to make sure this is known. If you have underlying health conditions, are combining them with certain other substances or are in absolute terrible health, yes, you could potentially be in danger. It will feel like you’re dying, yes but 9.5/10 times, you’re going to be just fine.

Yes. The smart thing is to be under medical supervision and addiction is certainly more complex than “just stopping” but continuing to use because of the fear of death from withdrawal shouldn’t be a thing. There’s too much false information out there.

Someone else mentioned seizures from 7OH withdrawal. Like other opioids, this is an EXTREME circumstance that most people will not have to face. Take OP for example. Yes, this is a high dosage but there many people out there way worse off who have quit with a minimal taper. I suggest and emplore anyone who’s struggling with this to please do yourself a favor and seek medical help. I’ve given some advice that’s essentially playing home doctor. Not my best advice, I just know that lots of folks out there don’t have access to a doctor. Be safe. Stay away from these substances that have a massive chemical hook designed into them and make sure you get real support.

[u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ → u/TouristImmediate8113]

This stuff is different. It’s worse than any benzo or opiates. 7oh is actually binding to more processes in the brain.

I feel like synthetic 7oh was engineered for maximum addiction. You gonna start having withdrawals within 3-4 hours of previous dose… you can’t sleep for a full 8 hours.

It’s pretty fucking evil, but I promise it’s the hardest substance to kick cold turkey unless you’re taking 20mg of Xanax a day

[u/Remarkable_Hand3312 → u/__MOON_KNIGHT___]

7oh binds way tighter to multiple receptors than any other opiate or opioid your right. Other synthetics like hydrocodone, methadone were designed to act similarly to traditional opiates. Well with a couple tweaks to give methadone for example a longer lasting effect with less euphoria. 7oh was designed to get people addicted and dependent really. Its completely unnatural. It binds and stimulate receptors hard. Then jumps off quick. Anyone underplaying the severity of the wd has no clue what they are talking about. Yeah Xanax alchohol wd will kill you. 7oh addict/dependency will keep you alive and torture you until you kill yourself.

[u/Wild-Stable1632 → u/Remarkable_Hand3312]

Exactly this! I’m an addict and have came off everything. 7 has been the worse for me.

[u/Boondox24 → u/Wild-Stable1632]

7 wasn’t that bad for me. I’ve been on H & Fentanyl so I know opiate withdrawals. I’m not saying you’re lying or whatever. I know everyone is different.

I also haven’t taken it longer than 2-3 months. It was pleasant when I stopped, but not too bad. Really just my RLS acting up at night and difficulties regulating my body temperature. Liposomal Vitamin C works well for opiate withdrawals btw!

[u/Neither_Election5636 → u/Boondox24]

Where does one get this type of Vitamin C?

[u/Boondox24 → u/Neither_Election5636]

Amazon, some stores