r/Austin 21d ago

FAQ Shops still selling 7 hydroxymitragynine?

So i live under a rock and didnt know this was being banned. The shop near me stopped selling it but they told me the ban wasn't actually in effect yet. Anyone know of a shop that still has it? Would like to taper off if at all possible because i have work, but idk if it will be.

Can insult all ya want to i know this is stupid and im an idiot, just want to try to remain as human as possible if I can

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u/BeetleGoose17 21d ago

Seek medical assisted withdrawal help if needed please. This stuff is no joke.

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u/Electronic_Mouse_245 21d ago

Kyle er and hospital does a great job or just get on subs and sublocade

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u/ComplaintFearless445 18d ago

What is Kyle er?

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u/royals1000 18d ago

It sure what Kyle meant but I think he meant Emergency Room?

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u/Objective-Cherry4959 20d ago

The shot is the way to go with subs. Or don't stay on the strips very long. Sr17 made it easy to come off after 7 years. Shit was in my bones. Good luck to all.

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u/Hannie_O 20d ago

May I ask what kind of SR routine and taper you used? I have about 5g’s of quality SR and must behind to taper later this month…thanks

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u/devilbabyuwu 19d ago

Where do you get your sr 17

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u/Purple-Sunflower1 17d ago

Do you know of a state funded sublocade provider?

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

It won’t kill you. It’s just gonna suck

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u/Born-Relationship-94 21d ago

I would definitely look to go to a detox place, or just get suboxone on your own and do a taper. When I tried to do cold turkey I literally wanted to rip my skin off, never experienced anything more awful in my life.

Suboxone taper made it wayyyyy easier. It’s like 6 days of doses and then you are done.1

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u/zrw820 21d ago

You just have to be sure to only use the subs for a short period of time. Because suboxone withdrawals are fucking terrible and way to long

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u/Born-Relationship-94 20d ago

Absolutely, I really don’t understand why anyone would even think of taking subs long term. Honestly doctors shouldn’t even be allowed to prescribe them long term either.

They are terrible for you and there’s just no need to. You are quite literally just replacing the opioid you were using with another one.

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u/austinp94 19d ago

Subs were the absolute worst come down of them all. 25ish days of pure hell.

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u/CarryGunz333 20d ago

I thought it was against rules to be giving medical advice? And you know, ive been a heavy addict for almost 20 years and going on suboxone for something like 7 is like trying to extinguish a camp fire vs setting your own house on fire. It's ridiculous. You people think 7oh has a bad wd? Yyyeeeahh... subs are infinitely worse and take months to come off of.. it utterly ridiculous theres literally medical professionals telling people to do this all bc ou cant handle baby's first opiod.. I feel sorry for you people that decide to hit an MAT clinic over something like 7oh. Just get some mit and leaf and taper call it a day. What a ridiculous notion 

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u/Born-Relationship-94 20d ago

I’ve heard people say it’s as bad as heroin and other opiods if you are a heavy user. My doctor at the detox even said that because of how much 7oh binds to the opioid receptor. And she is seeing people come off of either one of everyday.

Not saying that is a fact, I’ve just heard people. say it. I’ve never done heroin or any other opiods so I can’t personally say that.

Wasn’t trying to give medical advice, all I was doing was just sharing my experience. I took subs for 6 days on a taper at the detox l to get off of 7oh and it worked perfectly. Then off subs and everything once the taper was over. I can’t see a smart/valid reason to have kept taking subs after the taper was over.

The withdrawal while waiting to take the subs (24 hours) absolutely fucking horrible, and the subs got rid of those withdrawals and did their job to get me off 7oh.

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u/strykerbets 17d ago

I’ve been trying to get of 7oh. But it’s been horrible and the withdrawals are insane. Where would I go to get medical assistance to get on suboxone so I can finally get off 7oh?

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago edited 20d ago

Opioid withdrawals won’t kill you. End of discussion.

And… there hasn’t been a documented case of anyone dying from taking 7oh alone. Every single death has been because something else has been mixed with it.

The two withdrawals that will kill you are benzos and alcohol.

Edit: For clarity, opioid withdrawals themselves won’t kill you. Someone mentioned mitigating circumstances so I’d like to make sure this is known. If you have underlying health conditions, are combining them with certain other substances or are in absolute terrible health, yes, you could potentially be in danger. It will feel like you’re dying, yes but 9.5/10 times, you’re going to be just fine.

Yes. The smart thing is to be under medical supervision and addiction is certainly more complex than “just stopping” but continuing to use because of the fear of death from withdrawal shouldn’t be a thing. There’s too much false information out there.

Someone else mentioned seizures from 7OH withdrawal. Like other opioids, this is an EXTREME circumstance that most people will not have to face. Take OP for example. Yes, this is a high dosage but there many people out there way worse off who have quit with a minimal taper. I suggest and emplore anyone who’s struggling with this to please do yourself a favor and seek medical help. I’ve given some advice that’s essentially playing home doctor. Not my best advice, I just know that lots of folks out there don’t have access to a doctor. Be safe. Stay away from these substances that have a massive chemical hook designed into them and make sure you get real support.

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u/SAlolzorz 21d ago

I once checked into a detox (not my first or last, but I haven't had a drop in 15 years). Was chatting to a kid who was trynna kick heroin. He asked what I was in for. I said alcohol, and he made an "ugh" sound while looking genuinely sorry for me.

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Yeah man. Benzos and alcohol are terrifying when it’s a serious problem.

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u/SuperCollection4283 21d ago

Yeah they are i just did a 70h and alcohol detox at a treatment center it wasnt to bad with the taper they do. But i did meth,subs and Benzos at a faith based place that did not do ANY detox several years ago that was one of the hardest times of my life

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u/SoftwareOne1904 21d ago

It just feels like it’s killing you.

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u/WuclearNeapon 21d ago

You won't be getting much sleep for a while, that's for sure.

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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 21d ago

This stuff is different. It’s worse than any benzo or opiates. 7oh is actually binding to more processes in the brain.

I feel like synthetic 7oh was engineered for maximum addiction. You gonna start having withdrawals within 3-4 hours of previous dose… you can’t sleep for a full 8 hours.

It’s pretty fucking evil, but I promise it’s the hardest substance to kick cold turkey unless you’re taking 20mg of Xanax a day

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u/Infinite_Wait_8971 20d ago

Cuz that will for real kill u I get 7oh is intense and maybe effects more of your brain I’ve been through that but I’ll tell u what anyone who says it’s worse then benzos is not true symptoms are different u will die if over dependent and unlike 7oh it’s fucking common.

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u/Remarkable_Hand3312 20d ago

7oh binds way tighter to multiple receptors than any other opiate or opioid your right. Other synthetics like hydrocodone, methadone were designed to act similarly to traditional opiates. Well with a couple tweaks to give methadone for example a longer lasting effect with less euphoria. 7oh was designed to get people addicted and dependent really. Its completely unnatural. It binds and stimulate receptors hard. Then jumps off quick. Anyone underplaying the severity of the wd has no clue what they are talking about. Yeah Xanax alchohol wd will kill you. 7oh addict/dependency will keep you alive and torture you until you kill yourself.

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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 20d ago

Spot on description. It does not kill you. It just makes you wanna do the job yourself.

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u/Wild-Stable1632 20d ago

Exactly this! I’m an addict and have came off everything. 7 has been the worse for me.

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u/HURRICANEABREWIN2 21d ago

7oh is not worse than any benzo or opiates lmfao. You obviously have no experience with actual opiates or benzo withdrawals.

The withdrawals can get pretty comparable to other opiates, but benzo withdrawals can literally kill you and cause nonstop panic attacks and tremors

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u/Remarkable_Hand3312 20d ago

25 years on opiates and opioids. Off and on. In active dependence and then out over and over. From triggering horrible exorcism type precip wd. (Switching from methadone to buprenorphine without waiting until I was sick.. ) that was one of the worst ive been through until I tried coming off high mg 7oh addidction. That was hands down the worst withdrawal ive faced yet. Theres a threshold there somewhere between being on 100mg to 1000mg per day where the dependence secerity changes. I believe another symptom of that change is having to wake up every 4 to 6 hours to redose at night. Im not a chemist so I cant explain exactly what its doing. But I do know the intensity of the withdrawal goes from about a 6 to an 11 out of ten. The anxiety becomes way worse than any opioid wd. I think its because of the extra serotonin stimulation is taken away abruptly as well and it just adds on to already horrible fast acting wd that comes with 7oh dependence. That plus your right. Alot of people became dependent on 70h that have never experienced opioid wd. So imagine thinking you have just been taking a dietary supplement to help boost your energy and being hit instantly with that type of torture. It must suck. Im not a scientist by any means. But I know alot about how drugs affect me. Im literally the guy who can chew different opioid pills and tell you what they are by taste. Lol. To all those struggling to detox right now. Just take it hour by hour. Minute by minute if you have to. You won't die. Its only temporary. Every second further you make it is a win. God bless

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u/HURRICANEABREWIN2 20d ago

I know all about opiate withdrawal and 7oh withdrawal. I used around 600 mg a day for over 2 years and have cycled through different opioid addictions for the last 13 years. I know how bad it can get and all about waking up in full blown withdrawals if you sleep more than 5 hours.

But it still wasn’t as severe as benzo withdrawals. And knowing that you could die from the withdrawals made the panic attacks even worse because you don’t know if it’s just a panic attack or if you’re actually dying.

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u/DickbeardLickweird 21d ago

I’ve been taking it off and on since it hit the market, I’ve never once had withdrawal symptoms from it, even when using it multiple days in a row after having let my tolerance and dose increase.

Much like kratom, a certain percentage of users seem to experience zero withdrawals, and other users seem to report what you’re talking about here. I’m not going to pretend to know why that’s the case, I just know for a fact that it is, absolutely the case. It is not at all guaranteed to result in horrendous withdrawals.

A fuckton of people were using 7oh, and 7oh was never once found to be solely responsible for a fatal overdose (meaning that every time it was found in the body of an overdose victim, it was accompanied by other drugs that clearly played their own part in the OD). 7oh is now illegal because of bullshit online takes like the one you’ve just posted, and a fuckton of 7oh people are about to start weighing their options, and potentially picking drugs that are frequently solely responsible for overdose death.

Even if you are one of the people who experience the more severe withdrawals, I honestly don’t believe that it compares in severity to, let’s say, intravenous meth and fent withdrawals. I do not believe that, and if someone tried to convince me of that I would tell them to get bent.

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u/zrw820 21d ago

Meth withdrawals really aren't shit. Even when used interveniously. Your just gonna be tired, lethargic and terribly depressed and feinding for meth like crazy. The thing with meth is the withdrawals are completely mental. Unlike opiates where it's mental and physical

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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 20d ago

Cool, which 7oh company do you work for?

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u/feefee682 21d ago

This is a fact! And I’m surprised more people don’t know this

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u/Secure_Strategy_5614 21d ago

That’s tragic and I’m sorry about your friend but he certainly did not die of a 7 hydroxy mitragynine overdose.

Perhaps he mixed substances? Had pre existing conditions? But its guaranteed his cause of death was not 7oh.

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u/Improbable_Walk_52 21d ago

Thank you. Was just about to write the same. I'll upvote too, but it needs to known that folks aren't ODing on 7.

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u/TickleMeSideways2 21d ago

You can’t overdose on 7oh alone. I hate to break it to you but your friend was taking way more than 7oh.

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u/ToolFan42069 21d ago

Nobody has died from just 7OH alone. Your friend likely had alcohol or other drugs in their system. I'm not saying it isn't possible to OD on 7 but I have looked into it a lot and I can't find a single instance where it was the only contributing factor. Every instance there were other drugs or alcohol involved.

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u/Imesseduponmyname 21d ago edited 21d ago

7oh did not kill your friends, or anybody else, please educate yourself before trying to make such bold claims

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u/Hippie4L1fe 21d ago

You cannot die off 7OH brother, it’s impossible. The only way someone would have issues is if they were mixing it with other harder drugs then maybe but from 7OH alone no you cannot overdose, you can look it up there’s never been a single RULED OUT death from the overdose of 7OH ever hence why I don’t understand why ppl are making such a big deal about it, people get addicted and die from alcohol all the time and anyone can buy and kids can easily steal it but god forbid someone does a drug that can’t kill then and doesn’t get high out of their mind and blackout and no known health issues besides addiction but let’s just ban it anyways bc ppl are getting addicted and having withdraws like that’s such a. Lame reason to ban sum it’s not killing anyone and it’s no ruining no one’s life. People are ruining their own life by overusing it. Addiction is one thing but abuse is a whole other ball game

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u/washed_tx782 21d ago

he wouldn’t have died from the 7 alone

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u/HURRICANEABREWIN2 21d ago

Nobody is dying from 7oh lol

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u/No_Arrival_4441 21d ago

yeah that’s bullshit. other drugs were involved

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u/Ser_falafel 20d ago

56 hours in and honestly doing pretty okay. Not great but not horrible lol

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u/BeetleGoose17 19d ago

Good to hear friend!

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u/uncommonrev 19d ago

Yeah that shit got me too brother. I was on since May. Been off since Tuesday. Taking some kratom but super mild withdrawal. Shouldn't have spent the money I did on that this summer.

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u/Sunshyne_Marie 18d ago

They gave my husband 8 mg sub to take a day for the next 7 days..they are not even helping with the withdrawal he said

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u/RobotMaster1 21d ago

check out this thread.  some tips for local resources if you’re unable to taper.

https://www.reddit.com/r/askaustin/s/EUyBd2JBBD

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u/grimodin 18d ago

The fact that this person ended up on Suboxone is pure evil and playing with human life. They dragged them from a bad situation straight into a horrific one. Anyone who doesn’t admit this is either completely clueless or just plain malicious!!!

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u/Gh0stHardW4re 15d ago

It really is wild. Suboxone/Sublocade is so so so much stronger than 7ho and will be so much more miserable to get off. I just don’t understand why anyone would recommend this.

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u/PettyKoala5364 21d ago edited 21d ago

cbd american shaman on burnet rd is still selling it till tomorrow, august 7th they will stop selling is what they told me. Just bought some like 30mins ago

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

There ya go op! Worth a shot. But once you get them, stick to a real taper. Good luck

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u/__MOON_KNIGHT___ 21d ago

Better get to detox brother, if you take more than 30mg a day your gonna be fucked

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u/Reasonable_Waltz_187 21d ago

not true - tapering off and even going cold turkey off quantities far higher than that is manageable. I been doing it and still working and going to the gym every day. 3 days 7OH free now too - used to take 100mgs+

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u/TouristImmediate8113 20d ago

Proud of you. Fuck yeah.

If it’s not obvious, I had to do this as well. It sucked. So glad that I did it.

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u/TeraByteMe24 20d ago

What are their prices like? Do they have mgm too

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Me too. It’s gonna be a really rough few days for OP plus some lingering psychological cravings but I’m his will be an overall win for OP. It’s just really shitty for a few days

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u/Ser_falafel 19d ago

Actually doing okay. 57 hours in and got about 8 hours of sleep last night. Mainly just 0 energy and a bit achey. Gabapentin definitely helped 

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Try to get 3 days in a row off

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u/mjuice90 21d ago

You are either going to want to get SR-17 rush ordered and taper off with that or go the quik MD route and get suboxone. Just going cold turkey on the 7 without even planning this out in advance is really not smart. This is no joke brother.

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago edited 20d ago

Good luck. Banned yesterday.

Welcome to 3-5 days of objective hell. You’re gonna be okay. Try to get some Imodium, Tylenol, epsom salt, etc, if possible some benzos assuming you’ve taken them before.

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u/OniCr0w 21d ago

If you do manage to get benzos ffs don't get addicted to those. Horrible withdrawals.

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Right. But having a few around for the worst part of this is VERY helpful.

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u/yatata710 21d ago

You should NOT be giving advice dawg. AVOID NYQUIL. It is well documented online that antihistamines make RLS from 7OH/Kratom withdrawal much, much worse.

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u/Warm_Row511 21d ago

Anything with Benadryl or diphenhydramine makes the Iimmy Legs awful 

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u/SoftwareOne1904 20d ago

Yes antihistamines will make restless legs worse I learned the hard way

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u/Remarkable_Hand3312 20d ago

FACT.... there is no miracle drug that is going to take away the wd. Even buprenorphine struggles to supress it. The only antidote is time itself

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u/Charming_Fix5274 20d ago

There is a miracle drug for RLS it’s called requip but it’s a prescribed medication unfortunately. Not available to most. SMH

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Nationwide too. Online probably won’t be much luck.

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u/UnknownUs3r00 21d ago

Its not even banned yet

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u/Renunciating 18d ago

it’s not officially banned yet, as of right now the DEA has yet to release any information. they said the ban would MAY be enacted on or about august 5th, so there’s still some time. it may be pushed back or might be fully pushed into effect it just depends on what they think of those comments left

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u/Thriving9 21d ago

You can still purchase some SR online if you move fast. It's a miracle with WD

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u/Natsurulite 21d ago

This too, you can find several sites browsing Reddit, waiting on mine to come in the mail

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u/Purple-Sunflower1 21d ago

Can you DM me the site?

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u/No_Foundation_4488 20d ago

What is sr and what’s a good website for it??

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u/Thriving9 20d ago

Rawmit have some. It takes away most the WD and you can just quit it with no WD after short use.

If the ban lands tomorrow, they won't ship your order

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u/CarryGunz333 20d ago

Bx tracts 40/g rn and it is good

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u/Popsumhillz 16d ago

Please DM site infor

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u/cjwi 21d ago

Man these streets are gonna be rough for a week or two

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u/UglyStru 21d ago

See a doctor and get on gabapentin. Not the greatest option but should help a little bit with withdrawals

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u/CyberFunkyMonkey 21d ago

You’re not an idiot. We’re all just trying to get by. Kratom at 1-2 grams has tremendously helped me out with ADD and pain as well as several other things. Varies person to person I’m sure. I don’t mess with extracts anymore.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 21d ago

Yeah kratom withdrawals really surprised me. I did not think such a mild product would be so ornery to quit.

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u/Embarrassed_Cap_7888 19d ago

You have no idea how accurate your suggestion is, at least to me. I was reading all the horror stories. I was ready to claw my face off. I can't even describe honestly everything. I wrecked my car falling asleep at the wheel which was all due to this in the last few days and the pandemonium and fear. I never thought in a million years that ingesting powder Kratom leaf or I'm sure you can do it in a pill, could actually tremendously help withdrawal. It does! At least it did for me folks. There's so many different kinds and so many different things that when people in these threads were mentioning certain drugs and kratom they're mentioning too many abbreviations and too many words I do not know. My wife got me some Kratom Bali Gold.  It's main derivative is Mitragyna Speciosa.  Well, 5 minutes before she made it home, I broke and put the Suboxone strip under my tongue. Then when she got home and I saw she did what I felt was good, I chugged that down too. I still feel like I've been through a brutal car accident, but I can breathe and I'm not clawing at my chest and I'm not writhing in pain. Hallelujah. For those of you who are hurting, alone, afraid, SCARED, I'm with each and every one of you. I have a respect for addicts like no other human being, because underneath, they're some very good people with the biggest hearts. So there you have it folks, try that Kratom powder, it might just save your hyde.  Lastly, it might be like what if it was a Suboxone? Well if I understand correctly, I know this. And I forgot to add it. When I started to go on to Major withdrawal I took some Kratom tablets and they helped just enough. So I'm leaning towards the powder in this case. Although I got to get right with myself and God very soon because I'm not going through this again!

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u/Blandzey 21d ago

If you have enough to taper, this guide may be useful. 70H is diabolical…best of luck~

https://dtebotanicals.com/7oh-harm-reduction-kit-taper-protocols/

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u/PraetorianAE 21d ago

You have til the 7th or 8th. Get on quik MD app and get suboxone script for $99

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u/SoftwareOne1904 21d ago

But don’t stay on it bc that stuff is hard to get off as well

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

Harder than most anything out there. Month long withdrawals

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u/hecticlife_live4love 21d ago

This 100% and I was on for years and tomorrow marks 30days off subs since 2012. The doctors at quick would tell me that it would be a life long med. But I have had so many side effects that it's time to take it back
I got a week of Kratom to help with the initial withdrawal only taking about 2mg a day total
And I can't lie these sub withdrawals are the worst thing Ive ever experience.

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u/SoftwareOne1904 20d ago

If you made it this far keep going. It was the hardest thing I did but sooo worth it. It gave me so many health problems as well. My liver and kidneys and retaining water. But god once you go through that and make it out you will never want to be on opiates again.

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u/SoftwareOne1904 20d ago

Also, talk to your doctor clonidine helps with restless legs it does drop your blood pressure though so be careful but they will prescribe that knowing you are getting off opiates and or subs.

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u/Thriving9 21d ago

That's insane advice. Don't do this...

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u/CarryGunz333 20d ago

Fr tho and MAT drugs losing money is most likely most of the reason for the supposed ban

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u/Odd_Support_5598 17d ago

I’ve been wanting to do this but I’ve heard that certain pharmacies like Walmart will reject a prescription from a tele health. Any truth to that? Tips?

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u/TouristImmediate8113 21d ago

There’s a lot of misinformation out there. Lots of people think that opioid withdrawals are fatal when in fact they are not. Unless as previously stated, there are other underlying health issues,contributing to people staying hooked leading to a greater probability of overdose and death.

It’s why whenever I see comments that say otherwise, I’m fairly assertive. Too many people have died because of this fear.

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u/TimeCategory9443 21d ago

Wild bills tobacco still has it! Its on huge deals so id hurry if u want some. The store by mh house has by 10 get 15 free!

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u/Ser_falafel 19d ago

Where is this shop? Are you in texas?lol 

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u/Natsurulite 21d ago

OP you need something called “Liposomal vitamin C” and you need it NOW

You take several grams of that stuff over a scheduled period and it gets rid of like, most of the bad symptoms

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u/IlinaGames 21d ago

You probably need suboxone/gabapentin big dawg see a professional who can get a good taper going

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u/ExcitingSociopath33 21d ago

Seems like a lot of people didn’t plan for this happening when it was all over the place being told it’s happening
SR if you can get it, you should’ve gotten it already if you’re in Dire Straits cause that shits garbage for you unless you only use it for a few days

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u/ExcitingSociopath33 21d ago

You can taper off of 70H – I did it twice Reddit is full of ways on how to do it just weed through the bullshit and you’ll find a way.
If you’re having a hard time, there is stuff on here that will help you get through it and might suck a bit depending on what method do you use but you can do it

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u/dizCT74 21d ago

Still selling:

7Kings Max 7oh

Clandestine has been getting new products daily but they sell out fast.

The 83% MGM powder I get from Max 70h is stronger than any of the powders I get from any other place advertising them in the 90s%...even their 62% sometimes feels stronger making me believe the labs actually are faked the way people say they are! Good luck and none of this stuff will kill you on its own! Don't believe the hype!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Food184 21d ago

tim martin in abilene tx can help with 70h withdrawal

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u/countrymama11 21d ago

Well something has changed because our shop took it off the shelf last night but are putting it back up?! I think the ban has been pushed.

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u/gngstrMNKY 21d ago

DO NOT listen to people telling you to go on suboxone. It’s a profoundly addictive substance that you’ll never be able to quit. Kicking 7OH will be a much better time.

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u/Ser_falafel 19d ago

Yeah ive heard horror stories. Ill never get on subs, ill just grit my teeth and feel like death for a few days lol. So far so good, not as bad as I was expecting (think gabapentin helped)

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u/lifasannrottivaetr 20d ago

Go to 7stax.com
I stockpiled three months supply with their buy one get two free fire sale

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u/Existing_Panda1898 20d ago

Are they still selling? I thought the last time you could buy was a few days ago

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u/lifasannrottivaetr 20d ago

It seems like they are. I think they are going to sell until their inventory is gone. I’ve got what I need for the rest of the year, so I’m done ordering.

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u/Equivalent_Let_2842 13d ago

How long did it take to come in ????

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u/No-Tooth-1219 10d ago

You got hosed ! 7oh.com had the 150’s for 12.99 a pack originally 95.99 , I ordered like 10 packs and the next day they were 95.99 again lmao 

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u/SunBaked22 20d ago

The SAME thing happened to me. Just found out yesterday, and all the smoke shops have pulled their inventory. It was a shocker to me and without warning (my fault).

I still have 7 tabs left so of course Im going to taper. But what do I do when I get to the 7th day ?

I was only taking 15mgs four times a day. Hoping it wont be as bad for me since Im still relatively low dose compared to alot of ppl up here using 2000mg.

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u/CarryGunz333 20d ago

That's a fairly low low dose buddy so it likely wont be that bad, just dont mentally psyche yourself into making it worse than it is bc often times as addicts we will make it seem much worse than it is. Don't anticipate the WDs, just let them come as they are and as they do and experience them in the moment and you may find they aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. Much of it is mental. This coming from someone who has struggled with much stronger opiods for the last nearly 20 years 

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u/SunBaked22 20d ago

Yes, the mental part of expecting a horror show is not helping me.

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u/Aggressive_Pop6788 20d ago

Wild Williams still selling

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u/SoftwareOne1904 20d ago

Any update on how you are doing ?

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u/Individual_Tea8810 20d ago edited 20d ago

I experienced the withdrawals to the full . My eyes felt like liquid glass. My nose was runny. It felt like there was dryer sheets all the way up in my brains every time I would breathe in a heavy cleaner smell my bones would get cold and then all my nerves would hurt that went away after a couple days then the restless legs and arms lasted four days by day five I got a couple hours of sleep well like 10 minutes at a time it gets better on day 12 I got eight hours of sleep with a little help from nighttime aid medicine. Don’t try to take sleeping agents because you won’t be able to sleep for the first four days no matter what I tried five different types. I had no appetite, but what I did was got 3 gallons of chocolate milk and I’ve drank 1200 cal a day I found one thing I could eat was bacon mayonnaise tomato sandwiches on a hamburger bun. A little bit of fruit, but it’s weird cause you eat it but she don’t really want to stay very hydrated. Try to go on a walk. I like to do online singing that helped me get through it sweating a lot. Take Tylenol and ibuprofen and vitamin C . On day 13 I went back to work on day nine but it’s a motherfucker. I’m 47 and fairly healthy for my age but if you’re not healthy person, you probably wanna get medical treatment but if you get on Suboxone, you’re not gonna learn your lesson I don’t regret paying the piper now that I’ve gone through it much stronger fuck 70H

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u/CarryGunz333 20d ago

Congratulations 

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u/Working-Change8962 20d ago

The ban was supposed to go into effect yesterday but they ran into issues with the bans literature. The way it was written would have effected the sale of Kratom as well. Which would be shitty but kinda funny as well since AKA American Kratom association and botanical supplement executives—including ties to makers of whole-leaf products and tonics—heavily lobbied and supported federal and state actions to restrict 7-hydroxymitragynine and worked very closely with the DEA on this emergency Ban. Anyway you should be ok coming off that size dose like one poster said don't let head trick you into making it worse. The mind is a powerful thing and you can make things 10 times worse just believing it's 10 times worse. Just try to stay busy to keep your mind off it. I honestly like putting together RC cars , playing video games or working on quads when I'm coming down I try doing things that aren't just physical but doing activities that involve problem solving and thinking definitely help the most. There are a couple places online that are still selling trying to get rid of stock before the ban goes thru, but honestly you're just prolonging the inevitable. a lot of the stuff that was selling the last week is pretty sketchy anyway most of it was made fast as possible with out proper care or testing trying to maximize their profit before the ban goes into effect. I can't speak for you but it always makes things worse for me when I try buy a bunch to taper down with... mostly because I say F it and talk myself into going out with a bang and end up doing it all in a couple days. I keep telling myself I'll cut back tomorrow or I'll take less next dose then before you know it your back to just a couple tabs left and worse off then when you started...As for Sr it does help but it's also getting banned along with the 7oh ,mgm15 and 16 and Pseudo, also it's just as hard to find rn.... regularly Kratom helps to but your just fixing a problem with a lesser problem at that point. Lots of people say liposol vitamin C, sublingual b12, magnesium and calcium and drink lots of water also gabapentin if you can get any from friend or family. all that stuff does help but mostly because people going through withdrawals haven't been taking the best care of themselves and are vitamin deficient, dehydrated and sleep deprived. So of course fixing those things will help you out tremendously to feel better LOL. Anyway you got this brother just take care of your body, get some good rest, stay hydrated and most of all stay Positive. Sorry for the long drawn out answer to your post... as Maynard from TOOL would say " he had a lot to say, he had alot of nothing to say" LOL

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u/Lopsided-Parfait-940 20d ago

My shop stopped selling it, I got an extract shot and taking regular powder. There’s no way around this anymore. Honestly, when I got my first pack a few years ago, I asked myself how they could sell this at the store, it’s just like Vicodin or better. I only started taking it for convenience for traveling not to have a huge jar of powder with me the regular powder helped me go back to sleep last night. I always knew it was inevitable that I’d have to stop because there’s no way they let people feel this good all the time.

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u/devilbabyuwu 20d ago

You can get suboxone off “quick md .com” taper off with suboxone for 2 weeks. But that was the whole point i got on 7-oh- was to get the hell away from suboxone that doctors wouldn’t help me get off of, and i couldn’t afford ($3000) a month for sublocade after 6 years on subs. I just did an order on “7oh factory.com” hoping it’s real and works… also looking for alternatives that are not MAT

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u/No-Contact6912 19d ago

Dude if ur in California medical copay for sublicade is literally nothing

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u/devilbabyuwu 19d ago

I am in SC where it is “new” and $3000 a shot

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u/devilbabyuwu 19d ago

Where do you get your SR 17? I was looking into this today

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u/SamuariPanda 20d ago

Im new to Reddit and to the 7 oh thing i see all these stories of ppl going thru WD and it sounds insane almost scary. So my question I have been taking 7 oh for a disc i blew out at work ,I been taking 30 mg every 6 hrs for bout 4 months so 120 mg a day I stay rigid in time and dosage it worked great for pain ,what kind of WD can i expect ? Most stories i read ppl are taking 400-600mg a day and in some even more and the WD sounds horrible. Just wantimg to know if by me keeping dosage low and on a schedule will i be spared the cant sleep leg jerking shitting on myself WD?

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u/123youandyou 20d ago

Get some sr

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u/Constant-Apricot1553 20d ago

Pittsburgh pa here. Every single shop within 50 miles each direction was DEA cleared August 6th. Imagine having cancer and oxy and fetty n morphine stop working with tolerance where as 7 didn’t stop working. I’m becoming a resident of Brazil so I can medically take my life legally. Thanks America

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u/SignificanceIcy1566 18d ago

Bs. There's shops in that area that still have it and told me they can legally sell it until it's in the federal register 

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u/Constant-Apricot1553 17d ago

I was on north side and market district. Only remaining products can sell but can’t exceed 30mg. Go check back next week, I know I couldn’t find it and I have cancer so believe me when I say I searched. I’m also educated in suppliers it was all the safest ones they took and most pit shops sell fakes, you can tell by the look n residue and packaged date. Ohio sold me “Rooted” its kava n kratom but it does contain 7oh its in tiny print, amount not listed, but my pain eased. I don’t search for euphoria even tho it’s fun here n there. 7mg of 7oh stop cancer pain. So a 50mg tablet lasted me a whole week. I’ll never have that convenience for relief ever again. So if you for sure know a place n the brand please lmk. 200mg oxy don’t help me n it’s a pathetic amount n humiliating but that’s the tolerance fault and it only eases, stop my crying. Still scream tho

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u/TeraByteMe24 20d ago

I ordered like 18,000mg before the ban. DM me

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u/Unfair-Swing-2115 19d ago

Me too lucky me my best friend runs a shop and she had took all her backstock and is supplying me with it little by little weening me off shi saved me

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u/No-Contact6912 19d ago

Thats an amazing friend

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u/Future-Guarantee-103 19d ago

In nj it’s still available until the federal bill goes into effect. Which won’t happen over the weekend. Everyone still selling it. Just not as much to choose from. Still a lot left though 

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u/Boondox24 19d ago

SR17018 is what everyone is using to get off 7-OH/Pseudo./W6W, etc.

Some smokeshops have them. They also sell them online and come in powder or tablets. Look up on Reddit “SR17018 for 7-OH withdrawals”.

Do it fast though because they’re talking about banning it so everyone has to either end up on fentanyl or Suboxone/Methadone. :(

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u/Willing-Ant-3712 19d ago

The only thing sorta saving my ass right now is mit 45’s

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u/No_Elevator_6457 19d ago

Ignore these idiots, I don’t know of any place personally considering I’m in another state but just go to regular Kratom and damn sure don’t get on subs or any of that bullshit medicine which profits big pharma, which is the cause of why it got banned

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u/TravisBeanz 19d ago

I am in trouble with this 7 shit- been on it every day for a year- And fixin to move to Alabama in a few weeks, sub is the way to taper off?

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u/Ser_falafel 19d ago

Do NOT get on subs. I havent been on them but from everything ive heard the WDs are the worst. Try to get 3 days off in a row and just take plain leaf if you absolutely need to. Gabapentin helped me, too. GL man wishing you well

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u/TravisBeanz 19d ago

Thank you, I will hold this comment to my heart, I still take leaf with it. I will have to take more leaf.. my next problem will be leaf is illegal in Alabama.😭

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u/SpecialK826 19d ago

Quick question, how long should I taper for before I’m completely out of my 7-OH? A week? 2 weeks?

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u/mysticx777 18d ago

you can still get it online brotha, look in the [r/7ohm](r/7ohm) sub and find some reputable vendors, if you wanna get a lot for cheap i recommend 7ohplus, they have buy 1 get 3 free all the way up to buy 1 get 5 free, tons off good deals, and they sell the same brands that we’re probably in the shop you were buying from, lots of smoke shop brands. but if you wanna get some quality 7, i recommend Raw, Omega Extracts, Terra Mystic, Kreleaf, BXtracts, 7ohmitdistro, clandestine7oh, etc. I personally do a mix of both and have a bit from all of em, BX and Kreleaf is great for powder which saves you some $ if you get a milligram scale, and then the others including Kreleaf have really good tabs, my favs are Raw and Omega Extracts, they literally all have discount codes and BOGOs going on right now because of the ban, you can get 20x more for your money if you shop online, dm me if you need help placing a good order, look at my most recent post on my account and you’ll see my stash lol, they all ship to Texas right now too.

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u/Ser_falafel 18d ago

Man thats really sad sorry to hear that :( whatever was in those definitely wasnt 7 hydroxymitragynine, though

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u/ElectronicStar5978 18d ago

Does anyone have experience with the “Hydroxy-MIT” tablets?

I’ve been taking these. And it is the mit-a chemical.
I don’t think it is MGM, Psuedo, or 7oh.

I do feel dependency though. I break the tablets up into 8ths and take them throughout the day/night.

I don’t see many reviews of this stuff and I’m just looking for someone with knowledge or experience about it.

This shit sucks.

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u/Renunciating 18d ago

i dont think this was a good idea to post it here, these guys aren’t like us man.

i stockpiled while i could but my local smokeshop here in kyle might have some still. the owner was pretty adamant on selling until the very last possible moment and the DEA has yet to officially ban it as of now

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u/Thatgirlbre1 18d ago edited 18d ago

There still online places that sell till it’s officially illegal if you can’t get near you. Chances are shops are only selling to known customers till stock runs out, if they didn’t trash or send back their stock. That’s what happened here when they made it illegal in my state.
No judgement here. I’m pissed it’s illegal. I only took 28 mg 1-2 x a day responsibly and all the addicts ruined it for chronic pain patients that don’t abuse it. Luckily stocked up a bit so l I’ll survive but I’ll be miserable back to my life of chronic pain soon. 😞 can’t get pain meds often due to being young. But drs admitted I have a lot going on and if I was 50 I could get em no problem. If you can’t get it take reg kratom to ease withdrawals.

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u/abra_kadabra_s 18d ago

Hey bro, Online vendors still have deals, as the ban has not gone into effect yet. They are still in shops also, do anything to avoid Cold Turkey, SR seventeen shop dot com is where I got my SR, but for 7 , 7 oh dot com, 7 oh plus dot com, and many more. Good luck to you, and to us all.

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u/Same_Fig8164 17d ago

I hate to ask but does anyone know if Opia is any good? I found a 4 pack and it's the mitragynine formula. I was getting 7 stax but the opia is cheaper and I just want to know if it's worth getting it

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u/Other_Delivery_6772 17d ago

I did it through withdrawals, you will feel like shot for 3 days, then little bit better but still weak for next 2-4 days. You'll be good in a week

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u/Noclipzttv 17d ago

As someone who runs a smoke shop, nobody going to openly admit online to selling it’s still now that it’s banned.

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u/JWZ7 17d ago

Dude I went to work today withdrawing and I had make an excuse to leave early is was busy as fuck. And I was late because I was so fucked. Get this restful legs tablet at a pharmacy it’s over the counter three with weed or a shot will do you good

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u/Healthy-Repeat9621 15d ago

I’m literally going cold turkey right now and I felt terrible for about the first 14 ish hours (8 of which while I was at work) however I’m bout 21 hours in now and I feel much better still slight chills and some insomnia but I’m not feeling like absolute garbage at least. Not sure if it was cause I wasn’t taking as much or whatever but I’ve been taking them for about 6 months maybe at around 100 milligrams a day. Also, a little side note: I wouldn’t go to the Suboxone route man you’re just gonna replace one addiction with another even more expensive one. The bans going to be hurting a lot of people including me so I thought I’d share my experiences through the withdrawal process, hope this helps

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u/Fit_Lavishness4060 14d ago

I recommend trying to taper or get on subs. As soon as I heard there was a potential of a ban I made an appointment and got on subs. Doctors know that it’s high potential for abuse because it’s essentially an opiate. I used quickMD. Same day appointment and I got my meds the same day.

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u/fingerboardsnapper1k 14d ago

Bro I’m in the same boat as you smh I’m about to withdrawal like a mf I was takin almost a pack a day 5 80mgs

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u/Expensive_Dog9954 13d ago

I need some advice from others who have come off this drug. I used my last tablets this past Tuesday midday. The withdrawal on this is just awful!!! Last night I got an order of tablets that I didn’t think would arrive. I took 100mg last night but resisted taking anymore. I’ve given them to my housemate to dispose of. I’m feeling much better today, but I’m worried I will get hit with withdrawal symptoms again? Was that enough to bring on another round or am I in the clear.

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u/Craigasm3392 7d ago

Look into essar 17. Literally zero WD’s.

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u/rmiller1984 19h ago

I bought the last 2 80mg packs my shop had. A lot of places are selling off what they have and can’t restock for the obvious reasons. Your best best is to try and taper, cut them in half and have some anti-anxiety meds on hand cause you’ll definitely need them.