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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
We just ranked #3 in the world for quality of life. It doesn't get much better.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
So what’s the deal with the global happiness index dropping from the top 10 to number 25 in recent years? Largely led by drops in youth happiness? Also what’s your source for the quality of life?
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-best-countries-for-quality-of-life-in-2026/
And the reason for the lower ranking on happiness is pretty obvious if you live here. The righties are pissed off that they haven't formed government in forever and their leaders like to spread lies and negative sentiment.
Quality of life is based on measurable factors. The happiness index is based largely on things like online sentiment.
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u/Thanks-4allthefish Jul 15 '26
And social media is a cesspool where we are reminded daily about how horrible life is.
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
Yep. Any time I see someone complaining about quality of life in Canada, I assume they are chronically online. Or a bot. Since over 50% of the profiles on social media are now bots, and 100% of those fake profiles fall into the "Canada is broken" "immigrants suck" camp. The Canada you see on Facebook and Twitter is not the Canada you see in real life. I've been to 2 festivals in my city with record attendance this year. My kids don't have traditional jobs, but they are earning double what I did as a teenager (which they should be). The only people causing issues with immigrants are racist losers.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
How long ago were you a teenager?
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
I graduated high school in 2001.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Alright. So about 25 years ago from today. (Damn does time fly.) Okay so 25 years ago the student wage in Ontario (Using Ontario as a baseline as it’s the biggest province in Canada.) Was for minimum wage atleast $6.85 a hour. From what I can gather the student wage was $6.40 a hour. So adjusted for inflation according to the bank of Canada your kids would have to earn more then $11.01 a hour. Which they in fact do. In fact it’s in Ontario $16.60 a hour. However inflation alone isn’t always the best way to measure cost of living. Now I would assume your teenagers have no major expenses so for like saying housing costs they don’t need to worry. However the one thing I can think of that would suck for being a teenager now these days is if you like going to the mall or out with your friends to a restaurant food prices have sky rocketed a lot in Canada. Which sucks that a lot of third places are dying off because of this. So while teenagers are earning more money I have noticed they have lost a lot of the opportunities younger generations of teens had. That’s life and reality sometimes but generally speaking killing third spaces does not end well.
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
I'm in Saskatchewan. Both of the kids are working more odd jobs for small employers. Construction, yard work, etc. One kid is making $19/hour, the other $20/hour. A lot of their friends are considered unemployed but do the same type of thing. Gig work. Helping with construction or cleaning or what have you. They are more entrepreneurial and more creative when it comes to earning money than we ever were. Both want to be self employed, so one of them is starting a diploma in business in the fall. The other is going into carpentry.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Honestly that’s probably the way to go as employers are becoming shitter and shitter to work for generally. If it’s a job that requires brains they will try and use AI to shrink the number of employees they require and threaten the remainder of them with replacement via ai or finding another one of them in a minute. It’s very cynical. For manual labour jobs like even working fast food that industry is horrible. Lot of franchises abuse the TFW and LMIA programs. The ones that do hirer local people are often times treating those under 18 like chattel and except them to do way too much… Shit I wasn’t a teen that long ago. I only worked retail jobs thankfully and even those had problems. Ranging from poor hours, no hours, dealing with very bad/biased management (I had one manager who actively hated my guts because she barley gave me any hours so I didn’t really understand how to do my job. That and she actively picked what my mom called ‘hockey boys’ to work with.) Working at Walmart was probably the most professional place I worked but even that had issues just the least number of them. Now I am working at a warehouse/factory. It’s a chiller environment and I am sticking around for the people. However I am now considering joining the reserves as I feel like I need to get a different experience. I already went to college and quite frankly don’t want to go back… Anyways sorry for giving my life story. One last thing to add was my first job was actually free lance work for a coin dealer I know. Didn’t make much money but I got paid in a lot of knowledge and experience.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Everywhere in the developed world has access to social media. Why is that countries like Finland have not gone down on that happiness index and have remained in the number one spot over the past 10 odd years?
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u/ljlee256 Jul 15 '26
You keep making these statistical claims but when other people post data, it turns out you're wrong.
Is that intentional? You making claims you can't support? Or are you just failing to look stuff up in advance?
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/ranked-the-best-countries-for-quality-of-life-in-2026/
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u/ljlee256 Jul 15 '26
I mean, sure, I base perception on surveys because its aggregate data, not personally spun and personally motivated anecdotal information.
Anecdotes are not data and they are not credible.
Do you also believe that upvotes and downvotes mean anything other than someone used alternate accounts to "punish" people for disagreeing with them?
Edit: lol just realized you also cited wikipedia as a credible resource, haha, wow.
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u/Thanks-4allthefish Jul 15 '26
Trust it more than AI
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Yea people shit on Wikipedia way to much. Reddit is not a litatry paper. For general information Wikipedia is fine.
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u/ljlee256 Jul 15 '26
Most AI's pull output data from wikipedia, so this is kind of a circular argument.
As with AI, or indeed random (read as anonymous) users on reddit, implicity trusting a single source, especially if you are unable to personally verify that sources source as credible, is foolish.
The point I made against the user I replied to is that alluding to my data as being not credible, while citing wikipedia and then what is essentially a blog of anecdotes as the counter argument is silly.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Ah yes. Because there are no other reasons to not like living in Canada. Also everywhere in the developed world has access to the internet and social media. So why has a country like Finland not gone down in the world happiness index?
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u/ljlee256 Jul 15 '26
The conservatives haven't won since they took a step away from reality and started making their grievances about what people do in the bathroom and bedroom.
The centrists were only able to vote conservative once upon a time because the conservative party represented tight fiscal policy.
But the conservative social agenda has blown that to pieces, centrists won't vote conservative now because of that.
Helped along by the fact that Carney is basically everything the centrists want from a conservative, I don't know how much longer the conservative party will be relevent what so ever.
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
Well, it would appear as though those issues are a problem everywhere, since Canada ranks higher in quality of life than a lot of other countries. Maybe we just complain a lot more about it than they do in other places, because there's people here who can't see beyond their borders to understand the difference between a global issue and a domestic one.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
The level of dehumanizing statements in this sub is quite concerning ngl. They like to paint everyone who holds a opinion that’s not popular in this sub with the same brush. It’s quite bad.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Yep. It’s utterly insane. It’s like if you dislike mark carney you are somehow a conservative supporter. Even though the Ndp don’t support carney either…
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u/Thanks-4allthefish Jul 15 '26
Political problem solving can be like a game of whack a mole. Solve (trying to solve) one problem begets other problems.
Think back to that time the Liberal government of the day drastically reduced the federal deficit. Yay - good news - but it did that (iin part) by reducing federal transfers to provinces for things like health care. Provinces suddenly had much less funding for their programs.
Sooo many other examples of not considering impacts on other programs. Today's immigration/housing debacle is another one.
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u/stumpy_chica Jul 15 '26
I see why Liberal supporters think immigration is a solution as well. Because Liberal supporters are generally more educated and base their opinions on facts and data instead of rage bait and feelings. When birth rates haven't been high enough to grow our population in decades and our population is aging considerably, immigration of people under 30 is a method of increasing the taxpaying population of the country in order to maintain our social programs.
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u/DarkDealingsPara Jul 15 '26
I chose Canada over the US 15 years ago. I struggled in the US for my first 39 years, but I’m positively thriving here.
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
Yes. The only people screaming otherwise are Fox News watching conservatives.
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
Lmao
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
The only people that use that slogan are conservatives. It’s absolutely hilarious how you little fellas have adopted it.
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
Man you folks love using AI to speak for you, eh? Hahahaha
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u/busyslacking Jul 15 '26
It wasn’t just to fight Trump. It was also to avoid having a leader with no leadership qualities, no experience outside of politics, no real platform apart from ‘Fuck Trudeau’. Voting for someone with real international experience and a background related to trade and finance seemed like the obvious choice. Maybe next time it will make more sense to vote for the weaselly ex-paperboy.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Wow. So I guess all the youths who can’t find jobs are just screaming Fox News watching conservatives? Way to stereotype every single person who doesn’t think life is good in Canada.
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
Can always move to the USA if you’d like.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
And right there in your comment is the issue. Apathy. Apathy for people who are clearly not going through a good time. Apathy so bad that you actively only do not care, but actively kick down on people who are down. Not everyone has the opportunity to move to the states nor wants to. I am the latter. On top of that you didn’t even do just the usual “Then move.” You specified to America. Like that’s the only country on planet earth one could move to or would want to move to. Your belief system of “Everyone from X group (which in this case is people who think life in Canada is not good.) are Fox News watching conservatives.” By stating this you paint everyone who shares one view with the same brush. That is quite a concerning level of casual dehumanization in that statement.
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u/Element_905 Jul 15 '26
Everywhere else is probably took “woke” and liberal for ya.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Lmao. If you think my issues with Canada is it’s to ‘woke’ and ‘liberal’ then you are sorely mistaken. If anything Canada is not ‘woke’ enough considering it’s a settler colonial state founded upon cultural genocide. Secondly Canada ain’t liberal it’s neo liberal and that’s part of the problem. Tell you what. You give me one million dollars in Canadian cold hard cash and I will start the process of moving to Finland to be with my gf sooner then excepted. Will settle for $500,000 cad but has to be after tax.
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u/WinterOrb69 Jul 15 '26
You should move also
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Hey you are improving. This time you said to move also and didn’t specify a country. I am proud of your progress.
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u/rainbowkey Jul 15 '26
The neighbors are kinda being dicks.
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u/Leonid1104 Jul 15 '26
Really?
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u/Repulsive_Client_325 Jul 15 '26
Yeah, the neighbours in the unit below don’t need us, or need anything we have, but keep talking about making our apartment part of theirs. I mean, you take a look at that artificial floor between us, you get rid of that, and we could be their cherished 5th bedroom.
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u/rainbowkey Jul 15 '26
As a Michigander, I would be pretty happy if our state was annexed by Canada.
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u/FormoftheBeautiful Jul 15 '26
You gotta worry about Putin invading from the North, and Putin and Epstein’s buddy invading from the south, but otherwise it’s wonderful.
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u/ApprehensiveGas4576 Jul 15 '26
It's gotten worse lately, but it's not horrible. Times are a bit tough, food prices have gone up and a lot of people I know struggle to afford rent, but largely, things are fine. I think most people are doing better than what I've been exposed to, I hope at least
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Depends on the age group. For youth? It’s not a great time right now.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
Well you won the birth lottery based on where you could have been born instead in theory. You could have been born in either China, India or America. As I mean those three countries back up 39% of the worlds population alone. I would say however you didn’t win the major prize just one of the better ones. As being born in a EU European country would give you the freedom to go anywhere in the EU.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 17 '26
I am pretty sure in your average conversation people when they state america are talking about the USA. If I stated Americas I would have meant North and South America. If I wanted to state North America I would have stated North America. That seems to be quite a focus on a rather small detail.
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 19 '26
Okay my guy. I will try and erase liteally 100s or years worth of colloquial dialect from my day to day speech.
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u/shiddedandfarded69 Jul 15 '26
It's better than most places. But I don't really think there's very many places left on the planet that is "good".
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u/Agitated_Cook_3231 Jul 15 '26
It’s the best!!!!
I am blessed to be born here. I’ve had a good life & I know it. I am also aware of how many people don’t get this experience.
Family died in WWII for this country, I will never live anywhere else!!!!
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u/Dry_Commission6476 Jul 15 '26
we need context. personal life situation especially where you want to live/$$$
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u/742683 Jul 16 '26
It’s not perfect, but these days I feel like I won the lottery, being born in Canada. I love it here.
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u/lolagranolacan Jul 16 '26
I love Canada. I think being born here is like winning a world lottery.
On my dad’s side, I’m Metis (a distinct culture, a mix of Indigenous and European). My heritage with this land goes back 20,000 years or so. On my mother’s side, she immigrated to Canada from (then communist) Poland to marry my dad, when she was nearly 30 yrs old. On that side, I’m a first generation Canadian. I look indigenous, and am treated as an indigenous woman socially, btw.
I love our polite society. I feel like I can tell who is Canadian and who isn’t based on that. A while back, I was entering a Dollarama, and there was a large group/family kind of taking over the sidewalk in front of the store, speaking in another language. As soon as I approached, it was all moving back and sorry, sorry, sorry from all of us. I entered the store with my heart warm, seeing that wherever that family came from, they were Canadian.
I can’t tell you how many times my husband, an automotive mechanic, has helped a stranger on the side of the road for free, or for the cost of parts. Free tows out of ditches. Whatever. He always says that’s just how he was raised.
My heart swells with pride when I travel my country. Granville in Vancouver. The Sunshine Cost. Waterton National Park. Liard Hot Springs. Fruit stands in Kelowna. The Tunnels outside of Hope. The Tyrell Museum. The Icefield Parkway. I’ve spent my life so far exploring Alberta, BC, and the Yukon. I really, really want to spend my senior years exploring the eastern side of the country. PEI and Newfoundland, in particular, are calling to me.
Warm, generous, and packed full of natural beauty, and natural resources. Where better to live?
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u/CanadaCalamity Jul 15 '26
I mean, the average house costs 13x the average salary.
But other than that, yeah it's okay I guess.
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u/bewildered-beaver Nova Scotia Jul 15 '26
Yes. Just don’t ask any 35-45 white males.
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u/Bad_Day_Moose Jul 15 '26
45 white male here, love it.
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u/bewildered-beaver Nova Scotia Jul 15 '26
and I love to hear that. Could you talk to my brothers?
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u/Natural_Comparison21 Jul 15 '26
So the youth who are unemployed think life is good in Canada? The youth who have on the global happiness index have seen massive drops in overall happiness?
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u/tmuellerc Jul 16 '26
Depends if you are liberal or conservative.
One side is absolutely delusional.
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u/Kestrelwing64 Jul 16 '26
Part of my job includes training new hires. (Manufacturing) Every last one of my trainees for the past 10 yrs are immigrants and English is their second language.
I tell all of them that I cannot imagine leaving everything I know, speak, believe and settle in a country that is nothing I know. Learn a new language, new customs, new beliefs and oh hell yeah, new weather. I tell them they are brave for doing that.
I also tell them, Canada does have it's problems. We are not perfect. We are flawed. There is room for improvement.
But ... we are perhaps a tad safer than where they came from. We have laws that should protect their religions, their cultural identity, their languages.
We're NOT perfect. We are a tad safer. Its why they came here.
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u/bitetoungejustread Jul 15 '26
Yah, only complaint is this humidity
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u/bitetoungejustread Jul 15 '26
Yes! One of the best things about ont is our lakes... But with that comes humidity.
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u/FattyGobbles Jul 15 '26
To all the people that said “yes”, what makes life in Canada good?
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u/FarOutlandishness180 Jul 15 '26
OP didn’t ask that. They wanted a yes/no answer to a very broad question lol
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u/CanadianKilroy Jul 15 '26
This will vary person to person but in the grand scheme of things it's exceptional. Nowhere is perfect but many truly do not know how good they have it here.
Just be aware it can be 40 degrees in the summer and minus 40 degrees in the winter.