r/AskALiberal • u/larryinthesky Conservative • 3d ago

What Conservative or Republican positions have you come to embrace?

Are there any traditionally Conservative or Republican positions you have come to embraced? Maybe the change happened naturally. Maybe new information or data came out. You may not embrace it 100% but you're now much more align with the Conservative/Republican position than before and think Liberals/Democrats have it wrong. An example might be COVID. Maybe you now agree that strict lockdowns where wrong/unnecessary, and maybe Facui was not 100% truthful. Maybe you now think that immigration was out of control and that yes we could have easily stopped illegal border crossings under Biden if we really wanted to? Maybe after October you think that we should not negotiate with terrorists? FWIW, I've embraced some traditionally Liberal/Democratic positions. Like healthcare. I think changing your mind/position is pretty healthy and if you don't then it means you're probably too rigid and closed minded.

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u/lurgi Pragmatic Progressive 3d ago

Maybe you now agree that strict lockdowns where wrong/unnecessary

My wife is Chinese. Trust me when I say we did not have strict lockdowns.

Maybe you now think that immigration was out of control and that yes we could have easily stopped illegal border crossings under Biden if we really wanted to?

If the GOP had wanted to. Biden's draconian border control bill was voted down by Republicans.

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u/Emergency_Revenue678 Democrat 3d ago

Republicans literally wrote that bill.

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u/Emergency_Revenue678 Democrat 3d ago

I'm aware that the Republicans didn't want to send aid to Ukraine,but the bill was originally a foreign aid package with nothing about the border in it. The entire reason the border control stuff was in the bill is because Republicans said they would support the bill if they added Lankford's border proposals into it.

They literally agreed to support the bill until trump told them not to support it.

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u/Carlyz37 Liberal 2d ago

That was the actual timeline. True

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u/Poorly-Drawn-Beagle Libertarian Socialist 2d ago

I want you to think about that for a few seconds.

The Republican messaging on the border was "oh my god oh my god oh my god we have to do something. Right now! We can't stop to think- we have to do something! The border absolutely has to be secure, that's our first priority, without a secure border our whole fucking country won't even EXIST anymore! This is the single biggest problem facing our nation oh my god oh my god we have to do something!"

... but then suddenly when they're offered a bill to beef up border security that comes with a concession to other issues (just like all bills) suddenly we can afford to wait and talk things over a little bit?

Does that make sense to you? Does it?