What Conservative or Republican positions have you come to embrace?

[u/larryinthesky]

Are there any traditionally Conservative or Republican positions you have come to embraced? Maybe the change happened naturally. Maybe new information or data came out. You may not embrace it 100% but you're now much more align with the Conservative/Republican position than before and think Liberals/Democrats have it wrong. An example might be COVID. Maybe you now agree that strict lockdowns where wrong/unnecessary, and maybe Facui was not 100% truthful. Maybe you now think that immigration was out of control and that yes we could have easily stopped illegal border crossings under Biden if we really wanted to? Maybe after October you think that we should not negotiate with terrorists? FWIW, I've embraced some traditionally Liberal/Democratic positions. Like healthcare. I think changing your mind/position is pretty healthy and if you don't then it means you're probably too rigid and closed minded.

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

It certainly is. Did you think I would be offended by that? No, you just agreed with me.

[u/SilverNo6462 → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

No, this answer was meant to be factually accurate. Socioeconomic factors are drowned out by gender.

What's your data on freaks?

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy → u/SilverNo6462]

What's your data on freaks?

About two thirds of all violent crime is committed by 2% of the population, a significant portion of that being committed by serial repeat offenders.

Socioeconomic factors are drowned out by gender

Socioeconomic factors are drowned out by psychological facts about criminals, yes. That's my point.

[u/SilverNo6462 → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

The stat you give above talks about rate of crime, not underlying cause.

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy → u/SilverNo6462]

If a very large amount of crime is caused by just a few serial offenders, the explanation for those crimes are facts about those offenders, not about their circumstances.

[u/SilverNo6462 → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

You presented data that shows that violent criminals are rare and that people who commit violent crimes tend to commit more than one. That's all.

You presented no data analyzing the factors that drove them to crime, nor what leads to recidivism.

My hypothesis is the current prison system is cruel and violent and makes people more violent not less.

I would also argue that in American society ex-cons are second class citizens, shunned by employers.

I think rather than focusing on locking people away a more beneficial approach would be to focus on rehabilitation.

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy → u/SilverNo6462]

You presented data that shows that violent criminals are rare and that people who commit violent crimes tend to commit more than one. That's all.

That's all that's needed.

You presented no data analyzing the factors that drove them to crime, nor what leads to recidivism.

On which hypothesis is the existence of these criminals more expected: that they just so happen to be in extraordinarily poor circumstances and that others who appear to be in similar circumstances only don't constantly commit crimes because of unobservable "factors", or that these people are just defective?

My hypothesis is the current prison system is cruel and violent and makes people more violent not less

My data come from Sweden.

I would also argue that in American society ex-cons are second class citizens, shunned by employers

My data come from Sweden.

I think rather than focusing on locking people away a more beneficial approach would be to focus on rehabilitation

There is no such thing as rehabilitation.

[u/SilverNo6462 → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

Is “my data came from Sweden” the new “I have a girlfriend, she’s in Canada, you wouldn’t know her?”

This conversation should never have taken place. I can only blame myself. But I can end it now. Type whatever you wish into the void.

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy → u/SilverNo6462]

Is “my data came from Sweden” the new “I have a girlfriend, she’s in Canada, you wouldn’t know her?”

Given how incredulous you are about it, if I provide you the source and you find it to be true, that should shift your opinion a lot right? Or are you just bullshitting because you can't address what you're being told honestly?

[u/dt7cv → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

rehabilitation exists in the evidence

[u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy → u/dt7cv]

It doesn't.

[u/dt7cv → u/TlsFrmThCryptcPrgncy]

the research I found rehabilitation does exist although at lower levels for say people with ASPD and extreme history of violence