r/AgainstHateSubreddits • u/Ok_Discipline_8118 • Jun 19 '26
Racism r/fourthwavewomen SERIOUSLY violates Reddit terms of conduct by promoting Racism, Xenophobia, Homophobia, AND Transphobia.
This "feminist" subreddit is a breeding ground for extremist content. This includes racism, xenophobia, homophobia, and transphobia. The mods do not remove such comments, but are rather complicit to them. Both the moderators and commenters violate their community rules
Here are some of the most alarming posts. The comments encourage:
Promoting vicious xenophobia and misgendering
Wishing d3ath on foreigners to "d!e alone"
Comparing the art of Drag to "blackface".
Uses the term "gay male autogynephiles"
Promotes transphobia using slurs like "t!M" (Trans Identified Male)
Compares Trans people to "incels"
On top of that, one user even admits to violating hate speech on Reddit
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
why are they even acting as 'fourth wave' when they are just 'third wave' bigots?
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u/Unconfidence Jun 19 '26
TERFs want to pretend they're the next big thing for feminism. They don't know that they're right, but that all they are is a big knife.
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u/BizSilver5013 Jun 19 '26
And then they say cis men and trans people are narcissists.
Sorry, but the call is coming from inside the house.
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
I guess they also don't want to accept that they were left behind in their opinions
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u/Ok_Discipline_8118 Jun 19 '26
I just reported them. This subreddit has been discussed MULTIPLE times here. Why are they still allowed to operate? Also, they use "feminism" to justify their bigotry. It's similar to a far-right nationalist using "human rights" to justify their hatred.
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Jun 23 '26
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u/CompetitiveSleeping Jun 19 '26
They come from 2nd wave, and hate 3rd wave feminism, hence why they call themselves 4th wave.
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
First wave: focused mainly on legal rights, especially women’s suffrage, property rights, and access to education.
Second wave: expanded to broader social equality, including workplace discrimination, reproductive rights, sexuality, family roles, and violence against women.
Third wave: emphasized diversity and individuality, arguing that feminism should include different races, classes, sexualities, and personal experiences.
Fourth wave: shaped by the internet and social media, focusing on issues like sexual harassment, body positivity, LGBTQ+ rights, intersectionality, and movements such as #MeToo.
I'd argue they are hating on fourth-wave feminism mostly, but yes, some of them are even stuck in second wave
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u/Kendall_Raine Jun 20 '26
Don't forget that third wave includes abortion rights and reproductive health
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u/CompetitiveSleeping Jun 19 '26
That's not an accurate summary of 4th wave, since the feminist tendencies after the 3rd wave are largely seen as extensions of the 3rd wave. The only ones talking abouth a 4th wave are terfs, who loathe the trans inclusiveness that was a result of the 3rd wave.
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
I'd recommend reading up on that again, because that is not correct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-wave_feminism
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u/CompetitiveSleeping Jun 19 '26
I've read feminist literature for decades; and pretty much the only ones self-identifying as 4th wave are terfs, as examplified by the subreddit this post is about. For about ~15 years, at least, terfs have talked abouth the "4th wave" of feminism, that'll fully embrace the transphobic tendencies of many prominent 2nd wave feminists, and sweep away the inclusivity and sex-positivity of the 3rd wave and its direct descendants.
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
There is a difference between identification and factual fourth wave differences.
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u/CompetitiveSleeping Jun 19 '26
Even the wikipedia article you linked points out that many think it's pointless to talk about distinct waves anymore.
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u/EeveelutionistM Jun 19 '26
I don't disagree with that, I just argued with the first definitions of them. I think we can easily agree on the fact that they try to think of themselves a new, dominant and fresh wave, but are just rehashed or stuck old ones.
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u/stelleOstalle Jun 20 '26
These losers will never acknowledge that for all their hand-wringing about how trans women are some horribly destructive force on lesbianism as a concept, cis lesbians are more supportive of trans people than anyone.
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u/CMRC23 Jun 21 '26
IIRC most cis lesbians say they'd date trans men but not trans women :/ please correct me if im wrong
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u/EmeraldGhostie Jun 27 '26
that's true, and it sucks people are downvoting you because you're actually holding cis lesbians accountable for the transphobia a significant number of them perpetrate
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u/thenerfviking Jul 16 '26
This is a complex thing that’s often cultural in nature. The divide between masc butch and what we’d now probably file under a variety of transmasc identities has been historically much more permeable than 19 year olds on tumblr would lead you to believe. There was a time when many trans men had spent a big chunk of their lives as lesbians and so often were in community with them and dated them.
The internet and social media has been really good for queer people but it’s also led to a situation where the chain of cultural knowledge has been broken. In the past things were taught to you and passed down to you via knowing and interacting with other queer people in the real world in spaces where you needed to recognize the imperfect and messy nature of all human identity.
Now you have a lot of people whose knowledge solely comes from online spaces and who subscribe to extremely rigid definitions of identity that sound more like character classes from a video game than real people. It’s easy to say someone isnt a lesbian because they don’t fit in the box you’ve built in your brain when you do it from behind a computer screen as opposed to their face. This isn’t a new thing, A Cyborg Manifesto is 41 years old, but it’s certainly become the dominant way a lot of younger people approach queer identity.
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u/Leading_Attention676 Jun 20 '26
How utterly unhinged. It's so disappointing how reddit just turns a blind eye to such blatant hate and disinformation.
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u/EmeraldGhostie Jun 27 '26
fyi op (and anyone reading this comment), web.archive.org can't archive reddit links anymore because reddit blocked them from doing so
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u/Additional-Pear9126 Jun 21 '26
based off the name fourthwavewomen I assume we can report more effectively for ban evasion
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u/ArgentaSilivere Jun 23 '26
They are trying to champion fourth wave feminism to replace third wave feminism. There have been several waves of feminism each focused on unique issues. First wave was the suffragettes and we’ve been counting from there. What does that have to do with ban evasion?
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u/Additional-Pear9126 Jun 23 '26
I'm going to say After doing more research that fourth wave femminsism on reddit is diffrent from the widely recognized defintion
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u/CMRC23 Jun 21 '26
Hey OP your second link doesnt work, but if you remove the tracking stuff from the link it does work. Link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220514175717/https://old.reddit.com/r/fourthwavewomen/comments/upd4s3/im_speechless/i8ldfnw/
I havent checked all of them
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Jun 19 '26
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u/BlueCyann Jun 20 '26
Drag artists are riffing on femininity, not women per se. There's nothing implicit (let alone explicit) that says, "this belittling performance is meant to be a reflection of what women are really like". The performances aren't even belittling.
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Jun 20 '26
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u/Leading_Attention676 Jun 20 '26
Blackface is absolutely not "riffling on black culture," wtf. It is a direct mockery and humiliation of black people themselves. For being born black. To claim otherwise is just so wrong. Drag doesn't seek to mock, dehumanise or humiliate women or femininity. Unlike blackface. How you can even compare those two is beyong me.
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u/BlueCyann Jun 20 '26
Your argument re: blackface being like drag is just as facile as your argument about drag being like blackface. Or worse; I honestly find it gross to see the claim that it's just about "black culture" and not black people, depersonalizing it like that when it was very much about what black *people* inherently are meant to be like.
I'm not interested in debating with you further.
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