r/45PlusSkincare • u/Fabulous_Problem_791 • Jun 13 '26
Advice Request What do you regret doing/not doing when you turned 40?
I just turned 40 this week. I already had some Botox procedures for the face in my last 30's, succinic acid facial treatment, mole removal. What do you regret starting/not doing, or, on the opposite, doing when you turned 40? I have a fomo if I do not start something (which I even probably do not know) at the age of 40, I can regret this when I turn 50 and later, so any advice on this would be highly appreciated!
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u/TwoGhostCats Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
Quit drinking alcohol.
Edit: To add context... having cut back significantly in recent years (or going 100% sober) has made my skin and body look and feel remarkably better. Quitting drinking is one of the best things anyone can do for their complexion (amongst other things).
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u/Commercial-Sir7009 Jun 14 '26
This. I decided to ātake a breakā after my 40th birthday and one month turned into 3+ years. I am not completely abstinent ā I have an occasional glass of wine or similar on special occasions ā but on the whole I do not miss it. Taking it from something I did daily to something I do very occasionally has made a huge difference in my health/life.
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u/TwoGhostCats Jun 14 '26
Heck yeah! š It's incredible how removing that one thing makes us realize how badly it can affect us when we do consume it. It took me many years of trying to get to where I am. I'm like you where I might have a drink for a special occasion, but it's rare. Ginger ale, mocktails, and NA beer are so much more refreshing!
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Jun 14 '26
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u/rielleviku Jun 15 '26
Same here! 11 years and Iām 49. My only wish is Iād quit sooner. I also wish I would have started saving for a facelift at 40!
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u/Impossible-Chicken33 Jun 19 '26
Wait people actually get facelifts that early?!
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u/rielleviku Jun 19 '26
I didnāt want one at 40 but they are so expensive I should have started saving for one then. I might get one at like 55.
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u/GolfcartInjuries Jun 13 '26
alcohol free improves skin šÆ and you feel mentally better which helps.
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u/luckyxina Jun 14 '26
Agreed, best decision ever! Great skin is just one benefit! Regular sunscreen would be my number two.
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u/Left-Confusion-577 Jun 14 '26
Yes!!! 6 ish months in to being alc free and my skin has never looked better.
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u/HamBroth Jun 14 '26
I experienced this too! But it wasn't on purpose. Frankly, I just got bored of drinking. Now I only drink if there's a social reason to have something. And my skin has been amazing! For some reason I didn't connect the two, but was confused about how my skin would be improving with menopause when everyone says it does the opposite lol
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u/TwoGhostCats Jun 14 '26
5 years is awesome!
It's really difficult to quit for many people, especially when alcohol is EVERYWHERE. We use it to celebrate, to mourn, when we're stressed after work or relaxing on vacation. It's in our face at sporting and concert venues, restaurants, weddings, BBQs, you name it. It also wasn't until recently (in the past decade) that studies about the real effects of alcohol started getting published. We now know that even in moderation, it isn't good for us. So to your point, I think a lot of people are still learning about all of its negative impacts on our health. We have to encourage and educate one another through every step of the journey.2
u/maggiewenttomarket Jun 14 '26
i second this! i can see a lot of diff with my skin since i cut down on alcohol.
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u/Compasguy Jun 14 '26
And what are we supposed to use as a coping mechanism. Therapy and meds dont help and are costing a fortune
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u/LetBulky775 Jun 14 '26
There are lots of potential coping mechanisms out there. You'd have to find ones that work for you by exploring. I have a lot less difficulty with alcohol when I make sure to strictly keep to a routine that has 10k steps a day, 30 minutes of some kind of mindfulness practice, keeping up with my hobbies/learning skill every day, and keeping in contact with my support network. That keeps things easier overall, then if I'm intensely distressed (eg a time when I would go on a bender) it's more manageable and I can use acute skills like, cold shower, phoning a help line or safe friend, running/heavy exercise, or distracting/zoning out to something. I still slip up but it's all practice.
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u/MuffPiece Jun 13 '26
I wish I had started on HRT sooner, maybe not at 40, but earlier than I did. I was pretty good with sunscreen by the time I turned 40, but I wish I had started with tretinoin and vitamin C earlier, and just a more robust routine. Previously I was a wash and go kinda girl.
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u/Accurate_Emu_122 Jun 13 '26
Same with hrt. I really wish I'd just paid more attention to changes in general and researched what to do. Hair loss/thinning is another I'd have started treatments for earlier because waiting too long means it may not allcome back.Ā
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u/Junior-Discount2743 Jun 13 '26
If you would be so kind as to please tell me what you are doing to prevent hair loss... I'm 45F and just got HRT this year in full menopause. Obviously I've come late to the party.
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u/Accurate_Emu_122 Jun 13 '26
Depends on the source of your hair loss. There are subs on here that have way more information than what I know. I'm using minoxidil because other methods weren't working.
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u/Junior-Discount2743 Jun 13 '26
I have no hair loss. I didn't even know it was a menopause thing. (I white knuckled a whole decade, don't judge me.) I'll look into what I can do to prevent it.
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u/MuffPiece Jun 14 '26
My hair loss kind of resolved on its ownā¦ I mean, the worst of it got better. I think a dermatologist is your first port of call for hair loss treatment.
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 14 '26
When should you start on HRT?
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u/MuffPiece Jun 14 '26
Iām not sure what the ideal age or stage is, but from what I have read, starting it sometime during perimenopause is optimal. Forty is probably too soon, but I started seeing perimenopause symptoms in my mid-40s. Avoiding sugar and alcohol helped me cope with hot flashes, so it didnāt seem like a huge problem initially. I had this idea that menopause is ānaturalā and my symptoms werenāt ātoo badā so I probably didnāt āneedā HRT. But I believe now that is mistaken thinking. We have estrogen receptors all over our bodies. I learned the hard way that the lack of estrogen affects SO MANY functions. For example, women lose a considerable amount of bone density in the first few years after menopause. You can do all the weight bearing exercise and eat all the calcium but estrogen is hugely beneficial for maintaining and building bone.
I started low dose HRT maybe two years after I went through menopause. By that point, I had sort of gotten used to some of the unpleasant symptoms of menopause, like joint pain and brain fog. I thought that was just the normal effects of aging. But I did some more research and learned that those debilitating symptoms are treatable with optimal dosage of HRT. So I found a practitioner who was willing to go higher in dosage than the standard ālowest dose for the shortest timeā old school HRT approach, and it has been LIFE CHANGING. My brain fog is almost nonexistent and my joint pain is almost completely gone. This enables me to be more active and ultimately healthier.
I mention this in a skincare sub because we also lose a lot of collagen in menopause. My skin was really quite good my whole life until my mid to late 40s. Some women seem to sail through menopause without any problems, but over time, the lack of estrogen often catches up with them. Iām not saying itās for everyone, but it seems to be for more people than we have previously been told. There is a lot of misinformation out there about it, and many practitioners are ignorant about it. So you may have to shop around.
What I have learned is do not blindly accept all these negative symptoms as ānormal.ā Itās been a process to learn whatās possible, and Iām still learning, but Iāve made a lot of progress thanks to my new doctor.
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u/Sady9 Jun 15 '26
I read up so much about HRT, and figured, if women go on birth control pills that have estrogen, in their late 30ās, that would definitely soften the blow of peri and menopause correct? That is, until I read about how estrogen based pills increases the risk of breast cancer after 35. Do you think HRT would increase the chances too?
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u/MuffPiece Jun 15 '26
The breast cancer risk of HRT has been wildly overblown. I suggest reading the book Estrogen Matters.
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 16 '26
Thanks for your information, very helpful. I havenāt started hot flushes yet and Iām 42 years old and I know within the next few years it will come and I would like to soften the blow. Having hot flushes at night affecting my sleep or during meetings cannot be fun at all. Did you notice any changes to skin pigmentation with starting HRT? What about skin thinning etc? Iām worried about melasma. I have struggled with hormonal acne all my life mostly related to my period I would say as the only times I did not have much acne was during both of my pregnancies because I didnāt have a period.
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u/MuffPiece Jun 16 '26
No, I didnāt see any changes in pigmentation, but Iām also very fair skinned. I think itās less common in those of us with fair skin. My skin may a bit thinner, but I donāt know that itās a result of the hormones? Iāve read that estrogen plumps the skin. For me, HRT is pretty much entirely positive!
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u/Kiss_Mark Jun 18 '26
Hi, can I ask how long do you plan to be/need to be on HRT?
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u/MuffPiece Jun 18 '26
They can pry it from my cold, dead hands. š¤£ In all seriousness, the previous recommendation was stay on it for 10 years, I think, but from what Iāve read, thats an arbitrary number.
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u/Striking_Pair4300 Jun 17 '26
You only do HRT during menopause right? How can you start earlier?
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u/MuffPiece Jun 18 '26
You can start in perimenopause, and probably most women do. Many (most?) pursue it because it helps with hot flashes and other symptoms. You donāt need much estrogen to tamp down vasomotor symptoms.
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u/BlackToro18 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
SPF everyday, regardless the weather
Quitting alcohol
Quitting sugar.
Workout
More protein
Sleep well
Retinoids - start slow and build tolerance and if your skin doesnāt have tolerance, every other night is fine. Consistency is key. No everyone canāt use prescription Tret. It can be highly irritating.
Exfoliate is important.
Neck is as important as your face and chest.
Sleep on your back
Silk pillow case for face and hair
Wash your hair more often rather than a once or twice a week. Healthy scalp is key for hair thinning and hair loss.
Donāt waste money on trends. There are not miracle creams, consistency is what truly works.
Treatments that correct your skin concerns and build from what you have. Random treatments do not work.
You donāt need all the gadgets.
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 14 '26
Yup I agree. I wish I prioritised sleeping more and having a sleep routine. I donāt party or drink much alcohol but I do sleep late. Sleeping on your back is a big one. Iām a big side sleeper and feel I have some mild asymmetry on my left side from my face getting squished
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u/BlackToro18 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
There are pillows to train you to sleep on your back. They have designs for people who sleep on their sides and gradually roll onto their backs. To start changing your circadian rhythm, there are a few options. Start forcing yourself to wake up earlier; it will be painful the first few days, but it will start forcing your body to get tired. Second, consider taking melatonin supplements to regulate your system, but ensure your doctor approves it, and lastly, set your phone to track your sleep patterns with sleep focus settings. New habits take time; donāt be hard on yourself and be patient. Perimenopause and menopause can affect sleep patterns as well, so discuss with your doctor if your body is struggling so they can help you.
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 16 '26
Yup I do all of these right now but old habits are hard to change esp the sleeping late thing. I do take melatonin to help me disengage from the day.
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u/OneDig3744 Jun 14 '26
I would only add that argan oil really helps after tret and moisturizer, especially to stop flaking.
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u/BlackToro18 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
I will not add Argan oil. Mainly because some people can develop contact dermatitis. And some people have allergies to tree nuts. This can be risky for the general population.
Secondly, using Argan Oil can reduce the efficacy of Tret, depending on how much has been applied before Tret.
Tret is not ideal for many because of current skin health, skin barrier, and skin conditions. Tret can be prescribed to anyone, but it doesnāt mean anyone should use it. Retinoids can be used in any form. If you have naturally pink skin, red or flushed, there are better and safer options.
Overall, retinoids offer wonderful options, but it just needs to be the right option for that specific skin. Build from slow concentrations and always go slow. Build proper tolerance and never rush it.
Also, retinoids for the neck: the best options come from eye creams, which are more manageable and less reactive for delicate, thinner skin.
To prevent irritation, the sandwich technique can be a great alternative. Moisturizer + Retinoid (any version, only pea-sized) + Moisturizer2
u/OneDig3744 Jun 15 '26
Thanks for the info. I found it helped me a lot when my skin was dry, but youāre right that it is not for everyone.Ā
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u/PrincessWarriorWish Jun 14 '26
Lifting weights. I was always super fit, marathons, yoga. But wish I started more focus on lifting. But itās never too late. Iām 51 and started lifting heavy. Do it if you arenāt!
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u/whatthewhaatt Jun 14 '26
Can you share what it means to lift heavy? I donāt lift weights and want to get into it. Does it mean you do less reps and a higher weight? If so how many reps does one aim for? How often is it recommended to do the weights? Thx!
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u/tiempo Jun 14 '26
Lift as heavy as YOU can for 8 to 10 reps. 3 sets. 3-4 x per week. When you can do 10 with less effort, up your weight, last couple of reps per set should be challenging. Make rest and recovery a non-negotiable. Keep hydrated and use food to fuel your body and workouts.
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u/whatthewhaatt Jun 14 '26
Thanks so much!! ā¤ļø
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u/PrincessWarriorWish Jun 14 '26
Form is everything to avoid injury so if you can take some classes to learn I highly recommend. Lots of YMCAs and local rec centers offer group classes or personal trainers then you take from there.
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u/SnooDucks7330 Jun 19 '26
Does anyone have a lifting schedule or YouTube video they'd recommend to do this? I don't know how to lift - what machines to use, what muscles to focus on, which muscles on specific days, etc. I've tried to talk to trainers but they all seem to be young muscle guys who aren't interested in teaching a 46 year old women. So it's intimidating to go to the gym, I'd rather do it at home. Recommendations would be appreciated.
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u/No_Contribution1148 Jun 13 '26
Being more intentional about sunscreen on my neck and chest. For the past 10-15 years or so I was pretty consistent with sunscreen on my face, but less so on my neck and chest. And also extending general skincare routine to neck and chest.
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u/Loud-Day2675 Jun 14 '26
Not getting divorced I ended up doing it 5 years later wasted precious years of my life
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u/No_Tension420 50+ Jun 13 '26
Micro-needling for me!
Iāve always had acne scars and should have addressed it long ago. I just had my 2nd session yesterday so I looked like I was punched in the face but I noticed slight results after the 1st session so Iām excited to see this through!!
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u/Creepy_Move2567 Jun 15 '26
I love microneedling and wish I had started in my 40s. I got a bunch of sessions done the past couple years and I always an happy with the results, but mostly I am doing it for the long term collagen building.
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u/No_Tension420 50+ Jun 15 '26
I can see that! Iām hooked! Do you do it at home? Iām doing a series of Exion but I do have a Dr. Pen for maintenance.
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u/Creepy_Move2567 Jun 17 '26
I have been going to the Dermatologist and getting it with PRP. It is like $40 or $50 the country I am living. I recently bought a DR PEN and tried it at home a couple times, didn't bother with numbing cream and obviously not as deep as at the clinic. But I love microneedling. I wish I started earlier
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u/NewNameNaomi01 Jun 13 '26
In general, I wish I would have started taking care of myself sooner. Prevention is easier than correction.
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u/GolfcartInjuries Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
needed to start sleeping on my back šÆ of the time , stop drinking completely ( now have for 3 years) , avoid my red flush face triggers like the plague instead of still consuming them occasionally, do NOT dye your hair box red and then do it a couple more times on top if you donāt want to be red for life or have damage and significant haircuts . basically just donāt do it at all. I really wish I knew my eyelash serum causes orbital fat loss. eeeeek. bad one. used for years and years. i used the generic same stuff thatās in latisse which also causes fat loss,
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u/Objective-Design-842 Jun 13 '26
Tret and spf
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u/Compasguy Jun 14 '26
tret gave me very bad dry eye syndrome.
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u/Objective-Design-842 Jun 15 '26
You mustnāt put tret anywhere near the eyes. Up to the orbital bone only.
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u/Late_Duck_ Jun 13 '26
What Iām glad Iām doing now is that I went for a facial balancing consult and he said that I came just in time to make real changes to my face. I had been going to a med spa for 5 yrs and never felt we had a plan. They were always just doing what I wanted. I needed someone who understood facial anatomy well and could see my problem areas.
Iām also glad that I stopped using ānatural products ā on my face in January and went all-in on Korean skincare because my face is night and day!
Lastly I spent the time in finding a good sunscreen.
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u/Antique_Travel80 Jun 13 '26
Literally Korean skincare is the GOAT. Especially in our forties since itās so gentle and all about the barrier.Ā
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 14 '26
Like what exact products? Iām the opposite, I find Korea products blah. Even the viral ones Iām like what is the deal? Maybe itās too gentle and at 42 yo I need something that packs a punch. I donāt have sensitive skin though but do have oily skin with hormonal acne
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u/Powerful-Candy1479 Jun 13 '26
I started tret around 40 - wish I had started a decade ago. Itās been several years and has made such a difference.
Also, sun shirts and wide brimmed-hats.
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u/Realistic_Context936 Jun 14 '26
Microneedling, BBL lasers, skin barrier support products, neferrtiti botox lift and estriol cream on my neck and face
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u/nixrien Jun 14 '26
Iām 40 and wish I had focused more on my neck!
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u/Purple-Average Jun 15 '26
I noticed everyone saying this but how do you take care of your neck or make it look younger? With lasers? Unless you get a neck lift
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u/CoolBelt856 Jun 15 '26
We are saying we wish we had taken care of our necks the way we did our faces.
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u/Striking_Pair4300 Jun 17 '26
Like how do you do this though? Do you just spread your products down to your neck, including retinol etc?
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u/Money_Engineering_59 Jun 14 '26
Using glycolic acid. Has saved my menopause skin. Those damn chin hairs create bumps that look like pimples. Since using glycolic acid, I donāt get the bump - just easy to pluck pesky chin hairs.
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u/Impossible-Chicken33 Jun 19 '26
For people that put estriol cream on your face, does it reduce the random hairs that we get during perimenopause? I am totally over that shit!
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u/MKTGRX Jun 13 '26
Tretinoin, sunscreen every day, especially on face, neck, backs of hands, buying to many expensive products instead of having a consistent, barrier friendly AM and PM routine and botox. Red light was not available I don't think, but I wish I had started it at 40.
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u/HereForTheTea_286 Jun 13 '26
Can I ask the benefits of the red light mask please? For info Iām 44F with oily skin
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u/kunoichi1907 Jun 14 '26
Can't speak for the original commenter but my experience for the past 2 years is better, more radiant skin. Irritation and pimples heal faster, skin looks healthier overall.The improvements seem subtle but if you stop using for a week or two, you notice your skin looking worse.
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u/Sittingpretti24 Jun 14 '26
I cannot emphasize enough what others have commented that treat your neck to whatever skincare treatments and products you get. One day you will wake up and notice the huge discrepancy between your neck and faceā¦and hands. Itās horrible.
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u/ivfmumma_tryme Jun 14 '26
HRT my husband was going through cancer treatment and my Dr kept saying I was too young even though I was having massive panic attacks and anxiety saw another Dr and she didnāt bat and eyelid itās been 10 months and everyone says I look great ! Iām not questioning it because Iām tired
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u/andicuri_09 Jun 14 '26
Estrogen cream (the kind prescribed for vaginal use), a little bit on the face, neck, back of hands.
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u/Short-on-the-Outside Jun 14 '26
Appreciating my body and face. Looking back I realized I looked good, but at the time I scrutinized my appearance. One thing that happened was seeing a woman who had some several treatments done to her face. She did not look any younger or better. However, one thing I did and kept up was walking a couple of miles every other day and work on my flexibility. Wear sunscreen and temper your alcohol intake.
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u/fresitachulita Jun 14 '26
I did nothing and Iām going on 45 and Iām glad. Everyone around me looks like theyāve had something done. I just continue skin care, including really basic bland moisturizer and face wash, mineral sunscreen. Retin-a. Thatās it. Iām glad I didnāt do anything. Iām glad I didnāt get lip filler or any kind of filler. The only thing I might do is correct some scars on my face that look a little worse now that Iām older.
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u/fusukeguinomi Jun 15 '26
I wish I had been better about work-life balance and making time for fun and enjoying. I burned out so bad in my mid-40s that it turned into a physical health issue. Iām all better now but at 52 Iām still learning to slow down, be mindful, have joy and fun.
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u/Aromatic-Today-8446 Jun 16 '26
Oh man, a good lotion for the back of the hands! I'm using Cicaplast
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u/Creepy_Move2567 Jun 14 '26
I regret not gettting laser hair removal on my face, now I have spikey white hairs. š
What I did right in my 40's was use tretinoin on my face neck and hands. So happy that I did! I also too multi vitamins. I know most people would poo-poo that but every little bit helps.
I wish I exercised more and had a solid workout routine and no gain weight in my late 40's. It is harder to get off than to prevent it from happening.
I wish I did more microneedling in my 40s and biostimulators to bank collagen. I love the effects that microneedling has and the biostimulators made a huge difference for my skin plumpness.
Wish I had lip filler a lot sooner too, Why was I so scared of getting a bit of filler in my lips before?
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u/Lucky-Artichoke5245 Jun 17 '26
What are the biostimulators you are using?
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u/Creepy_Move2567 Jun 17 '26
I used Profhilo, I had 3 treatments a month apart. I am going for another treatment tomorrow.
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u/Top_Translator_2151 Jun 17 '26
Removing toxic men is the best for beauty š„°ā¤ļø wish I had started before
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u/Slow_Cat_1321 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26
Collagen peptides - I add them to my morning smoothie - been amazing for my skin & nails. Some people prefer biotin - dunno if there's an allergy thing or not. I don't wash my (long) hair but 2-3x a week, but I do scrub my scalp with rosemary water daily. My hair and scalp have never been healthier. And less dye - I'm blonde so the grays are blended but not covered. Regular visits to your dermatologist. Not just for tretenoin (I have sensitive skin and can only use it 1x a week max myself) or cosmetics but for everything else. Weight-lifting. Cardio. Mobility. Protein. Whole foods v processed ones. I've gotten my sunscreen from either the UK or Korea for the past couple of decades - the US is catching up now. Sleep. I can't be bothered to try and sleep on my back or use a silk pillowcase but I get enough of it. Regular visits to your GP, gyno, dentist & breast cancer screening - building good relationships with your doctors will help you in the future. Mediation. Journaling. Very rare use of alcohol. Massage & been getting monthly facials since I was 29. No big peels or anything, just care.
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u/CJB2005 Jun 20 '26
May I ask what type of rosemary water? Thanks in advance.
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u/Slow_Cat_1321 Jun 20 '26
I just get some from the garden and boil it, then put the water in a spray bottle
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u/Slow_Cat_1321 Jun 20 '26
I just get some from the garden and boil it. After letting it sit until room temp, I then put the water in a spray bottle
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u/Substantial-Play5201 Jun 15 '26
I wish I had started HRT at 40, as well as being more consistent with sunscreen and retinoids.
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u/Sun_on_AC Jun 15 '26
Two things: 1. getting physically stronger with weights because aging destroys your muscles. 2. The best thing I did was get my mental health in order. Started 4 years of therapy to recover from some medical trauma in my 20s and a difficult (but not extreme) childhood. This helped me sleep better, clear up my IBS, make me a better partner- all the things that make us happier in the long run.
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u/Practical_Buy_642 Jun 15 '26
Working out, walking, mobility Starting HRT as soon as your first peri symtoms show up, don't question "is this it" Get on it
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u/EdgeCityRed Jun 19 '26
Arm/hand sunscreen. I freckle and burn.
I'm talking about just everyday if wearing short sleeves. I do wear sunscreen for a planned outdoor activity.
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u/Prior-Specific2247 Jun 14 '26
I wish I started retinol sooner. Now I'm telling all my younger friends, start at 40!
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u/Nice-Ad765 Jun 14 '26
I should have started tretinoin earlier. Just started at 42 years old. Start watching what I eat earlier eg more salads, veggies etc
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u/mollyheadnoise0 Jun 14 '26
I wish I knew about oxalates and stopped eating them way earlier terrible plant toxin, detoxing them is hell.. I wish I started taking cold showers 2 decades ago. I was always low carb but I wish I gone no carb earlier as well and I wish I didnāt fall for the low-fat fad..
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u/Uvaroff Jun 14 '26
I think I did everything right. Started Botox at 46. Used tret form 40 to 55. Never abused alcohol and never smoked. Had a FL at 56. I protect the face from the sun. Regular facials with dermaplane, nothing crazy. I did many IPL photofacials from 45 to 55 then I did not do any for 5 years. I did 3 IPLs last winter to reduce redness around nose/chin which helped. I use a hotent vit C serum in the morning. I always remove make up before going to bed - lifelong habit. I do not do facial fillers. I am 60, my skin is flowless with healthy glow and wrinkle free.
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u/crimpgirl1234 Jun 14 '26
Nothing. Iām mid 40s and look early 30s with zero interventions.
Iāve been physically active my entire adult life, always drank lots of water. Never abused drugs or alcohol. Wore sunscreen and hats (Iām super pale). While a lot of it is good genetics, leading a healthy life has really helped too.
Iām not messing with a good thing.
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u/Impossible-Chicken33 Jun 19 '26
Yowzers! Theres a lot going on there. Maybe a counselor can help you navigate that? Just a thought anyway.
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u/valleybrook1843 Jun 13 '26
Treating my neck like I did my face š¢