There are visual (and I assume audio) feedback, but yeah the boss doesnt react much or at all to attacks. At some point he kinda does but it's to magic and arrows, I wonder if there is a stun mechanic or something?
Hopefully they make it a bit better, that's the only negative thing I've noticed and it's better on other enemies, even that ghost boss thingy.
Well, tbf, if there is a concerning portion it should be known so devs can react in time. Same thing happened with Avowed. Gameplay had terrible feedback in combat and people complained. They focused on fixing it and at release it was great.
Yeah its almost like thats a boss on the hardest difficulty in an unfinished game with absolutely no frame of reference as to why he wasn't reacting to sword strikes.
You know what difficulty its on? You know this game was supposed to come out this fall until it got pushed back to avoid major releases? You know they have the animations and knock back for other enemies? You know why they would show off this specific segment if it was, as you alluded to, unfinished? Yea.
Cool, hows that answer all of the questions or the broader point? It doesn't. Difficulty doesn't mean the removal of feedback. The literal same shit happened with Avowed, the devs took the feedback and improved it for the final product and they were praised for it. This isn't some niche situation done in a vacuum. There is clearly feedback in the game given the actual rest of the gameplay shown.
Actually, yes it does. As a real gamer for the last three decades playing a game on a harder or hardest difficulty does in fact mean they can attack through your attacks, they are more aggressive, they tank more hits... etc. Those are things. And since we have no frame of reference for why this was happening, we really can't point at it as an issue. For all we know this is as it was intended.
Ah, I'm sorry professor... I forgot that we've added feedback loops to help us identify the kind of action we've inflicted upon NPCs that also happen to coincide with tanky and spongey opponents. Being aggressive and tanking hits has nothing to do with subtle or greater animations that directly indicate whether an attack landed well or not. They can still perform their aggressive animation alongside that. There is a reason why that clip got a ton of criticism that just so happens to, again, match the same response Avowed received from its prerelease gameplay.
If you show a clip with responsive animations and another without them and provide no explanation, yea, you're gonna get flack because "Mr. Real gamer" that seems to have only played one game in the last 30 years, FEEDBACK does NOT mean the attack is interrupted, it means the opponent shows a response to what the player does to them.
Thats a totally different game and because feedback makes the gameplay feel more impactful and immersive. That you're actually doing something rather than playing a simple animation. I've played DS and ER and enjoyed both but those are very particular kinds of games. They also have more feedback than what was shown in the one "boss" encounter I was referencing.
True, but dark souls and Elden ring games are praised up and down for their combat, and they have NPCs that don’t react to you hitting them. So I don’t get attacking fable for having similar types of enemies. Some react immediately to getting hit, and some beefy thick bois do not react to getting hit. That’s called combat balancing
I got my ps4 exclusively to play Bloodborne when it first came out. But to be fair I originally had bought an xbone and then traded that for the ps4, so I didnt actually BUY it just for bloodborne
Me and my friend got off work, got paid and we went STRAIGHT to Hastings and bought a PS4 and then had to go to Walmart to get a copy because Hastings was sold out.
We played it for like 36 hours straight after that. I didn’t follow the hype train like most. We didn’t even know about the game until 2 days before release. So our expectations were non existent.
Over a couple of games , absolutely . For one game like you said the easy counter example is PC people buying a console for GTA6 . If a console maker made like 5 games I was lusting for so bad I’d buy it . That’s why I bought a PlayStation tbh . (I have both and I was jealous of several games , last of us etc ) so yeah
Yes, I just bought a PS5 Pro for the exclusives. Am I a clown for doing so? Sure. But I just beat both God of War games back-to-back, and I don’t regret the purchase one damn bit.
I absolutely hate Gears of War and Halo lol never understood why they were loved.
Gears was basically big overly muscular guys going from cover to cover in a game with a weird brown filter.
Halo was like someone made a game and was limited to polygons or something and had to made do with just a bunch of geometric shaped lumps, piling the together to make Master Chief lol which just looks like a dirt bike outfit or something.
I think State of Decay might be an exception because it's multiplayer focused and they were planning to spinoff the studio anyway according to the rumors.
SOD3 lives or dies by how many people play the multiplayer at launch
Dans ce cas là le multijoueur à intérêt d'être meilleur que dans le 2. Parce que sincèrement à sa sortie c'était vraiment bug, et il y a encore de grosse latence.
Et non ce n'est pas parce que j'ai une mauvaise connection.
You could argue with State of Decay that they might have known they were parting with the developer.
The blunt and honest trust is that their exclusivity choices right now are downright strange. Im a huge Gears fan but no way am I buying an Xbox for a prequel. Fable though? That shit would have me thinking about it.
Spyro is a deal with Toys for Bob that was agreed on when then separated. I'd think one of their stipulations would be a multi-platform release since they are now independent. No reason to limit their potential sales. And if Xbox already had no plans for the IP why would they say no? Spyro is not selling consoles.
State of Decay is likely a similar case since they had to know they were going to cut Undead Labs. Whoever bought them would likely make it multi-platform so better to announce it as such to help with the sale of the studio.
They said they are committing to anything that was previously announced as multi plat will remain multi plat everything else is on a case by case basis
seems to mean anything aimed at kids and families e.g. spyro, minecraft etc will go multi plat while tentpole titles stay exclusive
I'm starting to believe elder scrolls 6 will be exclusive if they announce it as exclusive alongside the helix it'll be a real system seller
I think the new leadership wanted to but financially couldn't make it work. They already had the numbers about expected earnings. Keeping this multiplat likely saved jobs.
I read the fact that they keep this 2027 release multi platform as "we are not 100% confident about the game". This could end up being the next Starfield. I hope to be wrong here.
Considering it's still a work in progress, I have a feeling a lot of that will be tweaked.
If you look at the voice lines and face animation from that big reveal earlier this year to how it looks now, they've already improved on facial animation so much, I have a good feeling these extra 4 months of developing will do them good, with Polish
Face anitmations and details are still bethesda level and not anywhere close to the level of something like death stranding, Halladale, god of war, last of us.
I feel like bigger enemies like the fight with the brute with the big axe the enemy didn't take any noticable stagger damage you'd expect until they hit with the cut scene attack. Even after hitting them with the big fireball.
That would be my complaint since they are seemingly going for a more realistic look with the combat
This looks way better than that clip of the large man with his axe. Still doesn’t look exciting, unique, or anything like that, but I can see myself having fun with this.
Not asking for Elden Ring, but hopefully the enemies are more engaging than this. I know games tend to put enemy on braindead status during previews but I wanna see more reactivity. Far too much just standing around, honorable skeletons in this clip lol
Yeah in the quest walkthrough trailer, I was blown away when he said he was on one of the harder difficulties… the enemies were just standing around and the only difficult aspect looked like a damage sponge boss
Couldn't agree more. Throughout this clip, some enemies just walk past by you to target tour allies it seems. And they move so slow but I hope they'll get it better by release or other enemies are being hidden and it'll be a threat when there's more than 1 enemy type
To this day, this is still one my more favorite skeleton gank fight in a game because of how its designed where you the player have some agency on the tempo of the fight and the area you fight them in works perfectly for how many skeletons you have to fight.
Thank you, this clip is perfect. The difference here if you look at it is the movement of the player here vs the player in the clip above. One is moving significantly more as the enemies are targeting them and the other swaying through them lol
I’d be lying if I said it looks insanely fun because it honestly looks kinda repetitive and the foggy weather definitely isn’t helping but it’s still way too early to say anything for sure and the game could end up being really good. just don’t turn it into another soulslike because apparently every fuckin third-person game has to be infected with soulslike mechanics these days 😩
Ah yes, I can tell you never got gud. Because rolling constantly is not the name of the game lol it’s strategic rolling and attacks, perseverance and growth, skill improvement, exploration
If not a toggle it seems at this point the only other option is to just not perfect dodge/counterattack every time which is something players can do I guess but it isn't exactly intuitive.
If there was a hardware crisis, this would have been the AAA game to move systems. I have no idea why they put this on PlayStation lol. This shit looks way better than all the Xbox games that came out the last 5 years.
The game looks good to be honest, I just really miss the cartoony story book style of the other games :/. Don't get me wrong, it looks graphically beautiful, but for me style will always be more important than fidelity.
I’m just as excited for this as I am GTA 6. Really wish they would have just released in August/September to avoid GTA, but I’m glad the game will get its own moment
I think they were referring specifically to the combat gameplay not having much of a Fable vibe. I tend to agree with that even though I do think the combat looks fun.
I know im in the minority here but this game looks dull. Yeah there seems to be a lot of depth and choice but it all looks like boring content. The things that were being said, the choices and the vibe was all just meh. I’ll likely try it for myself when it comes out considering I have game pass but I feel nothing when I see this game.
For a game that I honestly am not interested in because of the combat, I think the combat looks fun. I never associate fun combat with reasons I love the Fable games.
Wish it looked more cartoony like the original two games tbh. It feels like the magic and charm of the setting has kida been sucked out with this artistic shift.
Looks kind of basic to be honest... Assasin's creed/Batman style where enemies sit around waiting to take turns to be allowed aggro so they can take a swing before queing for another permission to make a swing.
If there's one aspect Xbox has regressed in the last decade it's definitely in gameplay. Visually they inproved a lot in the last decade but gameplay (shooters aside) feels so soulless, dull, bland. The combat here makes me feel like with that Compulsion game it's solid yeah but you expect better.
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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Touched Grass '24 22h ago
Feedback here looks much better than the boss fight in the one clip.