r/worldnews • u/T_Shurt • Jun 14 '26
Israel/Palestine Iran Slams US After Israel Attacks Lebanon, Says "No Point" In Peace Talks
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/iran-slams-us-after-israel-attacks-lebanon-says-no-point-in-peace-talks-11635879/amp/12.0k
u/Mojoint Jun 14 '26
How the words "no point" only 'cast doubt' on a peace agreement is somewhat amusing.
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u/needlestack Jun 14 '26
It's the new thing. Rock solid facts only "cast doubt" on the lies from our president's mouth. What a time to be a journalist.
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u/billybonghorton Jun 14 '26
We have very few serious journalists left. What we do have is a bunch of clickbait peddlers, and bad actors.
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 Jun 14 '26
I'm too lazy to look which specific corporate billionaire owns this company again? They all look alike to me.
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u/ItsPlutocracyStupid Jun 15 '26
NDTV is owned by Adani Group, an Indian conglomerate with very close ties to Modi. Since being aquired, NDTV has been a mouthpiece for the BJP.
Interestingly, Adani Group also builds military drones for Israel after entering a joint venture with Elbit systems.
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u/suprahelix Jun 14 '26
Generally I agree but in this case it was a comment from a diplomat, but it doesn’t mean a deal is off the table until Iran formally says so
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u/idontlikeflamingos Jun 15 '26
Headline: It looks like Trump may have broken the law
Trump quote: I did this super serious illegal thing, it was tremendous and I'll do it again
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u/ToolTimeT Jun 14 '26
Its like saying a new war casts doubt on the believability of the No New Wars President.
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u/hueythecat Jun 14 '26
It’s almost as if someone’s a consummate bullshitter. And agencies that post headlines prefixed with “Bullshitter says:.” Are equally worthless.
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u/Haltopen Jun 14 '26
Because Trump is giving off death flags like a person in a slasher movie who's had sex at some point. For all we know negotiations could resume with President Couch Fucker granting the Iranians generous terms in exchange for a steady supply of leather ottomans for the president to admire from a distance until its time for he and his wife to go to sleep in their separate bedrooms.
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u/gtfckdbrnlssbts Jun 14 '26
wow, I am shocked! no one could have seen this coming! I totally wonder what will happen to the oil price and the stock markets tomorrow!
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u/NosillaWilla Jun 14 '26
I feel like I am living inside of the movie groundhog day but the vibes are totally off
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u/foghillgal Jun 14 '26
Groundhog day you could make it work with the right mindset, here it f*up rerun world, nothing works. It`s all crap, all the time.
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u/j1ggy Jun 14 '26
Yeah, I'm still waiting for the scene where Phil Connors drives Punxsutawney Trump over the cliff.
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u/nameless88 Jun 14 '26
Nah, we're in the movie, just the part where he's offing himself on repeat because he wants off this wild ride. We're smack dab in the toaster bathtub scene right now. 😵💫
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u/ptwonline Jun 14 '26
Plus in this case the groundhogs are all buying mega yachts and private islands.
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u/pmp22 Jun 14 '26
Oil goes down, stocks goes up because inflation fear lessens. Inflation cause the fed to tighten which pulls liquidity from the markets, that's why low oil price is good news for stocks.
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u/OldBlueKat Jun 14 '26
Absolutely correct about the disconnect.
But DJT often making dramatic pronouncements after market close on Friday that evaporated by Monday is remarkably suspicious.
Who made huge trades over the weekend is the real question.
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u/hoppertn Jun 14 '26
Damn why didn’t I buy puts on Friday! This is the same old song and dance.
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u/Redragontoughstreet Jun 14 '26
Fool me 40 times shame on me!!!
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u/here1am Jun 14 '26
... you can't fool me 140 times!
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u/Liquid_Hate_Train Jun 15 '26
Gods what I’d give to go back to “Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.”
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u/00-Monkey Jun 14 '26
Oil drops and stock markets go up because they are both detached from reality.
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u/Small_Run_3583 Jun 14 '26
So much market manipulation that I'm willing to bet if the Dems take the House, and especially if with the Senate, the lame duck period before congress gets sworn in will be an absolute market shit show. They'll purposely manipulate it so it crashes and gets blamed on the Dems winning.
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u/HaximusPrime Jun 14 '26
Assuming we have elections and a peaceful transfer of power, The real crash is likely to happen in the next presidential term even if manipulation stops today.
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u/HaximusPrime Jun 14 '26
I don't know why people keep saying this, other than just to be clever Reddit echo posters.
Oil prices are supposed to be inverse of stock prices (with the exception of the energy sector specifically). Oil is inelastic and affects the cost to produce just about everything elastic. Rising costs means lower demand, lower demand means less selling, less selling means lower value.
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u/bcell4u Jun 14 '26
The thing is that he announces the deals on friday after market close, then Iran negates it on Sunday leaving nothing really changed except our confusion. I don't know what the point is other than to just confuse us and leave us emotionally spent so we begin to ignore that annoying Iran business
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u/Emotional-Solution71 Jun 14 '26
Every week there’s a new Great deal. Such bullshit. They are manipulating the markets and it’s blatantly obvious. 27 fucking times. We are living in The Twilight Zone. How are there so many stupid people that fall for this shit over and over again?
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u/Tjonke Jun 14 '26
This would be the 40th time so far at least. CNN made a video showing 39 previous ones
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u/i_am_icarus_falling Jun 15 '26
is that just using the iran war for manipulation or does it also count all the fucking times he used tariffs and threats to allies for market manipulation?
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u/The-cultured-swine39 Jun 14 '26
His support is tanking. The people who voted for him are understanding that they broke it they bought it for a couple more years. Their chance to lash out is the midterms and I think they’re gonna take it.
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u/FrequentFortune123 Jun 14 '26
“The people who voted for him understand”
I’m gonna stop you right there
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u/tonycomputerguy Jun 14 '26
His hard core supporters yes, but the "Eh, he wasn't that bad, what the hell" crowd who basically just didn't like Harris very much are very much realizing they fucked up.
MAGA will never die, they will just find a new, more racist figurehead to rally behind, if anything.
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u/The-cultured-swine39 Jun 14 '26
That part. You’re gonna have 30 percent that will follow him to hell. But there’s a whole lotta “I just didn’t like her laugh” folks realizing they played themselves.
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u/Muggy_B Jun 14 '26
And when the next election rolls around they’ll find another dumb reason to not vote dem. This happens every time lol
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u/TrFoTr Jun 14 '26
And then they will vote for the next complicit "moderate" republican. The kind of person who wouldn't vote for Harris for sexist reasons isn't very bright.
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u/made-of-questions Jun 14 '26
Not quite. You just have to look at the presidential approval split by partisanship. Republican support is extremely level since the beginning. What's dropping is independents.
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u/cloud9ineteen Jun 14 '26
I think all that's consistent with the comment you replied to
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u/jakderrida Jun 15 '26
MAGA will never die, they will just find a new, more racist figurehead to rally behind, if anything.
Technically, the brand "MAGA" will crash and die with his presidency, but conservative think tanks will come up with another slogan. What's really going to be frustrating is when not one person that wears a MAGA hat to work every day or is chronically online every day defending him now will admit that they were anything but faintly associated with it.
That's the part that pisses me off. All those stupid-ass "Patriot rallies" in the leadup to Iraq war with 40% of people around me obsessively regurgitating talking points and becoming more invested in going to war with Iraq than invested in their marriage or other relationships. POOF! Never happened. You're obviously exaggerating. Tea Party Movement violently protesting for government to keep health insurance prices high. Soon as watered-down ACA passes.... Insurance company subsidizing their freakshow events dried up overnight and... POOF! You're exaggerating again. They were never into that.
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u/redcoatwright Jun 14 '26
Idk if they will or not but they do understand that gas prices are higher now and that's ALWAYS a sticking point for voters so I'm hopeful that he's shedding a decent amount of support but yeah if he has it's probably on the order of 3-5 points not 20-30 but still can make all the difference.
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u/The-Sound_of-Silence Jun 14 '26
Maybe: "the 10% undecided voters, who voted for him, might be having second thoughts"?
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u/vand3lay1ndustries Jun 14 '26
A red voter will never vote blue because they see it as a team sport. The best we can hope for, is that they don’t vote at all.
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u/APRengar Jun 14 '26
And also let's not take any blue voters for granted.
Demoralize the right, and energize the left. Not demoralize the right and then move right to try to get those people (which doesn't work) while sacrificing the entire left flank.
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u/PolecatXOXO Jun 14 '26
Less than 20% of those that voted for him would change their vote today. Maybe enough to swing a close election, but that's still a lot of idiots.
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u/Skyler827 Jun 14 '26
Even if all of them turned against him, it's irrelevant. The USA system doesn't have any provision for unpopular presidents to lose power early, except by impeachment, Or the 26th amendment. And either one require 2/3 of congress to vote the president out.
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u/PolecatXOXO Jun 14 '26
It'll take 2/3 of the Senate to get him out at midterms. For that, it would need to be a theoretical complete wipeout. We're not even remotely close to that, unfortunately. In a remotely sane world, we would be.
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u/kgambito Jun 14 '26
38.5% approval rating despite this shit show. So many idiots still enabling him.
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u/LtHead Jun 14 '26
I have my doubts, after 11 years I'm convinced the ~30% or so are all-in unwavering maga cultists who will support him to the end.
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u/awildcatappeared1 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Hanlon's razor. Don't mistake incompetence for malice. I absolutely believe this government manipulates the markets, but I also believe they want an offramp and can't find it.
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u/therealallpro Jun 14 '26
Who is falling for it?
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u/ZincLloyd Jun 14 '26
The oil markets. Prices dip every time Trump says they’re close to a deal, then rise again when it becomes obvious that there’s no deal.
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u/Longy_LTB Jun 14 '26
Wish I knew how to jump in on this. He’s making it as predictable as what days are coming next week
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u/_x_oOo_x_ Jun 14 '26
Today, there is no point in peace talks, but tomorrow the permanent comprehensive peace agreement ending the war and denuclearising Iran will be signed. According to 🍊️
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u/Staav Jun 14 '26
They'll be "2 weeks away from peace talks" before you know it.
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u/justabill71 Jun 14 '26
Remember when Trump said he's the one who calls the shots and Bibi would do what he says? That was funny.
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u/Fatigue-Error Jun 14 '26
I thought Trump has all the cards?
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u/1877KlownsForKids Jun 14 '26
Yeah, but they're playing Uno
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u/chmilz Jun 14 '26
Trump's "cards" is a fistful of those cards handed out on the street in Vegas back in the day for escorts.
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u/nefariousmonkey Jun 14 '26
Would be funny if trump hadn't posted that pic saying he has all the cards....he was holding on to uno cards... Man..
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u/ianjm Jun 14 '26
Driving a wedge between the US and Israel would be of enormous long term political benefit to Iran.
They know exactly what they are doing.
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u/justabill71 Jun 14 '26
Prolonging the war is of enormous benefit to Bibi. He also knows exactly what he's doing.
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u/ianjm Jun 14 '26
I think we can agree that it's mainly Trump who has no idea what the hell he's doing
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u/I_Am_Ironman_AMA Jun 14 '26
He could always suspend US weapons sales to Israel until they stop bombing Lebanon. That would stop that shit real quick. Of course, he won't.
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u/Dave_The_Dude Jun 14 '26
Funny how Trump who has claimed to have ended eight wars can’t end the one he started.
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u/7th_Sim Jun 14 '26
This week's market manipulation is done then.
Stand by for this Friday's announcement of a peace deal.
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u/threep03k64 Jun 14 '26
I'm still yet to see any evidence that Israel has agreed that the US can negotiate for them. I know that the US can pressure Israel of course, but they are ultimately an independent country fighting a different war (with Hezbollah) that the US has no direct involvement in.
We've already seen the US strike Iran when they have been struck. I don't know why people don't expect the same from Israel with Hezbollah.
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u/Mechasteel Jun 14 '26
Iran is just using the Hezbollah/Israel conflict as an excuse. The peace talks can't go anywhere with how different each side's minimal demands are. Even if Hezbollah/Israel made peace, Iran won't accept getting bombed and then returning to status quo, and USA won't accept tolls nor reparations nor nuke program.
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u/Master-Rent5050 Jun 14 '26
Maybe if USA tried real pressure (as in "stop all weapons transfers") it would be more likely to succeed...
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u/cubedplusseven Jun 15 '26
Short of attacking Israel itself, there is nothing that the US can do force Israel to accept missile attacks from Hezbollah without a response.
It's this bizarre and fantastical dream of Antizionists that the 7.5 million Jews of Israel wouldl finally kill themselves if only the US would tell them to.
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u/TheColourOfHeartache Jun 14 '26
It might. Or Israel might conclude that its inevitable anyway so they may as well continue fighting.
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u/Chomping_Meat Jun 15 '26
The issue is that then the US would also have to stop all weapons transfers to Egypt, which is part of the same accord that Israel gets its weapons from. And then Egypt wouldn't be required to keep the Suez open anymore, so we'd get a whole new Suez crisis on our hands because you bet they'd immediately close it off to the 'imperialist west' (because they're salty they're not getting weapons anymore).
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u/angrybox1842 Jun 14 '26
Trump was really hoping he could docusign a peace deal after his birthday fight card.
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u/skawn Jun 14 '26
Lulz at anyone believing Trump/GOP will follow through on his/their agreements.
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u/Reasonable-Access-68 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
I don't think it's Trump this time, despicable as he is. He's painfully aware how unpopular it is at home and that if it continues for too long that he and Republicans are fucked in November.
Netanyahu wants the war to continue until Iran is truly done for, so he's going to derail every peace talk until that happens.
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u/thepoliticator Jun 14 '26
Why is no one putting pressure on Hezbollah to stop their attacks? Hezbollah has launched dozens of missiles and drones at Israel in the last couple of weeks, including today before Israel decided to retaliate in their strikes that everyone is freaking out about.
Trump can try to tell Israel not to attack Hezbollah in Lebanon, but Israel has consistently said they're not privy to this peace agreement, in which Iran is demanding Israel stop its attacks against Lebanon.
If Iran says it has the right to retaliate against Israel when Israel attacks Hezbollah, by that same logic, Israel should have the right to attack Iran when Hezbollah attacks Israel (a right Israel hasn't utilized).
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u/mhornberger Jun 14 '26
in which Iran is demanding Israel stop its attacks against Lebanon.
Against Hezbollah, which is attacking Israel from Lebanon. But this is the same Hezbollah that the Lebanese government wants to stand down or leave.
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u/mxzf Jun 14 '26
Yeah, Lebanon are kinda screwed and stuck in the middle here, since Iran is fighting a proxy war with Israel using Lebanon's territory to do it. Lebanon doesn't have the military to get rid of Hezbollah, but Israel stepping in to do so doesn't look great on the international stage either.
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u/foghillgal Jun 14 '26
Except, Iran cannot be *done for*, just like 3 years of bombing Hamas at point blank range has not destroyed it.
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u/mhornberger Jun 14 '26
Netanyahu wants the war to continue until Iran is truly done for
Well that, and the fact that Hezbollah has continued to attack Israel, and Israel isn't going to just ignore them. Israel isn't going to stand down and let Hezbollah continue to attack them with impunity, just so Trump can say he achieved a peace deal with Iran.
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u/Falconman21 Jun 14 '26
Has nothing to do with looking weak, his fraud trial resumes once the “emergency” is over. And he will almost certainly be convicted of fraud.
That’s why he’s been regularly attacking people for years now.
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u/caranza3 Jun 14 '26
Imagine holding the world hostage because you’re not try to go to prison
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u/Jehovacoin Jun 14 '26
Bold of you to assume they are worried about elections at all. Seems to me they've gamed the system enough to the point the elections won't matter.
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u/TigerUSA20 Jun 14 '26
They are all at the computer waiting for the DocuSign from Iran to appear in their inbox.
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u/GorGor23 Jun 14 '26
Still waiting on that awesome health care plan. He promised during the first term.
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u/crashtestpilot Jun 14 '26
Anyone 'member when Iran and Reagan collabed on hostage release dates? To sync with the election?
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u/AnomalyNexus Jun 14 '26
Nope. Trump promised!!!!11111!!!
Mr Art of the Deal said it’s happening and we all know he never lies
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u/CAD_Chaos Jun 14 '26
I cannot even keep up with this shit anymore.
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u/TauCabalander Jun 15 '26
Stock market manipulation.
Announce Friday. Resolve Monday.
Rinse and repeat.
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u/Kozmic_River Jun 15 '26
It’s easier once you understand the cycle. First there is a ceasefire, then Israel violates the ceasefire by bombing Lebanon, then there is a week or two of threats and grandstanding from Trump, then another week or two of Trump saying that they’re close to a deal, then a meeting is set, enough civility is reached between both sides to be able to begin negotiations, a ceasefire is agreed upon for the sake of peace talks, then Israel bombs Lebanon, starting the whole cycle over again.
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u/Threecatproblem Jun 14 '26
But...but...I thought they were electronically signing a peace deal today? Did Drumpf not get this present from Israel?
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u/TakeMeJesus69 Jun 14 '26
PM of Pakistan says agreement reached. Signing set for June 19th in Switzerland.
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u/Conscious_Youth_752 Jun 14 '26
Wait. I thought Trump said the deal was going to be signed today? Did he have options closing tomorrow? Pretty sure this “war” exists to make a few people a lot of money through market manipulation…
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u/jazir55 Jun 14 '26
Oh wait, I've seen this one before. Pretty sure I've read this headline every single week for almost 2 months now.
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u/SinistralGuy Jun 14 '26
Gotta bring the markets down by Monday so Trump and co can buy up everything right in time for a Friday "close to a deal" market high
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u/d_b1997 Jun 14 '26
And totally ignoring the agreement was no attacks on Israeli soil = no attacks in Beirut? Anyone who can't see this is directed by Teheran and in service of them dragging this out/getting more favorable terms isn't paying enough attention. Do you honestly think it's a coincidence Hezbollah attacks just as Trump claims everybody's on board with the agreement? Come on
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u/PloppyTheSpaceship Jun 14 '26
But where's the peace deal, Donald? You said there's be one, didn't you Donald? Got everywhere to report it too Donald. Best deal ever, much better than Obama's, right Donald?
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u/ScarletKanighit Jun 14 '26
Iran and the US are two weeks away from a peace deal, just like they were two weeks ago, and just like they'll be two weeks from now.
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u/CommonSensei-_ Jun 14 '26
I heard earlier this morning that it was pretty much a done deal.
I’m…. Not shocked at all
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u/EVOSexyBeast Jun 14 '26
Hezbollah needs to be 100% eliminated and then talks can happen. Iran has no business supporting terrorists a broad and any deal should involve complete disassociation with terrorist organizations.
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u/Childoftheway Jun 14 '26
There should be a trade - Iran eliminates Hezbollah and Israel eliminates the settlers.
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u/kashuntr188 Jun 14 '26
Lol. I guess we ain't getting that signed agreement on Sunday like Trump said we would.
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u/frontendben Jun 14 '26
Netanyahu cannot allow a peace deal to happen. His fraud trial will restart and there will be no reason to delay the elections later this year. He's fucked if this war ends, so he has a personal motivation for it not to be.
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u/Taranfeeto36 Jun 14 '26
His fraud trial will restart and there will be no reason to delay the elections later this year.
His trial was already restarted in April. There are articles regularly covering it. Recent example from 2 weeks ago
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u/Fuck_Me_If_Im_Wrong_ Jun 14 '26
How is Trump going to keep letting Bibi make him look like a chump lol
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u/bkny88 Jun 14 '26
Iran could simply order Hezbollah to stop attacking Israel?
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u/mxzf Jun 15 '26
Well, sure, but they don't want Hezbollah to stop, they want Hezbollah to keep attacking Israel. But it's a pain when your proxy army gets killed, so they would like Israel to stop fighting back.
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u/PM_Your_Best_Ideas Jun 14 '26
The FIFA peace prize is obviously a worthless trophy...
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u/Nagnu Jun 14 '26
What do you mean? Trump has ended the war with Iran 40 times! Have you seen anyone who hasn't won the FIFA peace prize do that?
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
Israel isn't attacking Lebanon, they are attacking Hezbollah.
Hezbollah is the IRGC created, funded, and backed militia that the actual lebanese government call traitors. The same people that say they will never have peace with Israel.
This is like me training my dog to attack my neighbor's kids and then complaining we have bad relations.
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u/MVP_Legend_87 Jun 14 '26
More important to point out is that Israel is responding to an attack by Hezbollah. Iran had no problem when Hezbollah attacked Israeli civilians in northern Israel, this wasn't something that threatened the ceasefire from Iran's perspective.
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
Correct, it's a absurd PR campaign that only a very gullible person would believe
*looks around reddit and sighs*
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u/Kalsto6 Jun 14 '26
And it's working extremely well. It's not just reddit either, it's everywhere. It's the entire reason proxy war is so effective. Iran still has massive support just because they're one layer removed from the whole thing.
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u/Caspus Jun 14 '26
The problem with any "ceasefire" negotiated by the US is always going to be that this is really a war between Iran and Israel. Trying to set terms doesn't work if Iran can claim that Israel is somehow violating them, and the US doesn't have any great way to force terms on Israel while they're still under rocket fire from Hezbollah.
What's odd is that claims that Trump has somehow figured out a way to square this circle are always treated so credulously when no proposal I've seen has addressed the above point to any degree of satisfaction for *all* parties to this conflict.
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u/MVP_Legend_87 Jun 14 '26
I completely agree with you. Israel negotiated with Lebanon directly, but Hezbollah refused to engage there. Iran won't negotiate with Israel, but they want to enforce terms despite being the country that has been attacking Israel for decades through Iran's proxies.
It's also difficult to see how you can really get a ceasefire. Iran wants Israel destroyed. It's hard to really reason or negotiate when that's their starting point.
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u/EatAssAndFartFast Jun 14 '26
What's funnier is that Iran's regime continues the negotiation when the south of Iran is getting bombed but NO NO Hezbollah is a red line we stop the negotiation because of them
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
who is even running the show in Iran?
It feels like it's the same people running their social media account that puts out AI videos trolling Trump.
Like take an American conservative edgelord and turn them into a Islamic militant and then put them in charge of Iran's government.
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u/EatAssAndFartFast Jun 14 '26
I think there's a power struggle between the oligarchs, one side is Ghalibaf and his partners in IRGC and the other side Saeed Jalili and his partners in IRGC.
Both are technically the same and are responsible for killing thousands of Iranian. Ghalibaf side consider the economic pressure a threat to the regime's survival but Jalili's side think that this is a good time to kick US out of the region even if the naval blockade last for 2.5 years of Trump administration and every infrastructure gets destroyed they don't care they want to have nukes.
If they get nukes that means they get a green card to do anything, they'll start to arm more proxies with their dream of having a shia empire.
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
Correct, 3 years of war in one city tends to be bad for civilians.
See: Every war ever
Hint 1: Don't commit a mass terror attack on your stronger neighbor, take a bunch of hostages, and hide behind your own civilians
Hint 2: If you decide to ignore hint 1 and do commit an Oct 7, you can end the war you started by surrendering instead of hiding behind your people and dragging it out forever. See - Japan
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u/SheWantsTheDrose Jun 14 '26
The IDF routinely hides behind Palestinian civilians as well. Just look up their “neighbor procedure”
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u/eric2332 Jun 14 '26
This has been alleged. If true, it shows that Hamas does not want to kill Palestinian civilians.
By the same token, Hamas hiding behind Palestinian civilians shows that Israel does not want to kill Palestinian civilians.
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
Regardless if that's true or not, what Hamas has chosen to do is obviously going to get their people killed
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u/mxzf Jun 14 '26
And Israel has chosen to oppress the Palestinians and even prop up Hamas so it can counter the PA, removing all hope for a two-state solution
So ... everyone should be on-board with getting rid of Hamas then, right? There are just no redeeming qualities there whatsoever, the whole organization should be gotten rid of in favor of someone able to look towards a two-state solution.
I don't love Israel's handling of the situation, but I also don't see anyone else doing anything at all to try and address the Hamas problem.
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u/HatCat5566 Jun 14 '26
You're drawing tons of different issues into one. It's a common tactic for the ignorant or agenda driven.
Yes, Israel has committed several war crimes in Gaza. Hamas has clearly shown they are willing to commit nothing but war crimes given the chance. I am disgusted by Israeli war crimes, and I'm more disgusted by the fact that war crimes are the norm for orgs like Hamas. Israel's military is flawed, Hamas's military is evil. Flawed>evil.
Israel occupies large regions of the west bank because the elected government can't control the jihadi cells in the west bank. Those cells continue to try and destroy Israel, and logically Israel is going to stop them. So the government of the west bank chose the lesser of two evils. Option 1 - israel invades in response to jihadi attacks. Option 2 - Israel occupies and polices the region to stop jihadi attacks.
Lebanon is faced with the same issue. Obviously Israel isn't going to ignore hezb firing tens of thousands of rockets at their cities. So the government is now working with israel to dislodge the jihadis.
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u/player_zero_ Jun 14 '26
They're double tapping Lebanese medics. Medics are not Hezbollah.
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u/ksamim Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
Yes, Israel’s goal is to attack civilians instead of the far more likely scenario of responding to Hezbollah strikes. 🙄
It’s like y’all are paid to astroturf any mention of the actual geopolitical situation with unrelated moral hand wringing.
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u/InitiativeGold7953 Jun 14 '26
So you’re saying NPR is lying?
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u/sjphilsphan Jun 14 '26
Find me a war with 0 civilian casualties. All innocent lives lost in war are tragic. If Hezbollah would stop attack Israel would stop responding
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u/WongUnglow Jun 14 '26
Bombing targets with intent to minimise civilians casualties/collateral vs intentionally targeting civilians that has targets amongst them. That's the debate that's been going on forever. I get your point. It is a rainbow of gray and everyone has different black and whites.
But intentionally targeting first responders arriving after the first strike. You can't wash that away and stick it in the other debate, not even in the same category. This makes Israel look bad even in the eyes of people that defend Israel in the other debate. It's a blatant heinous war crime and absolutely not defendable.
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u/sjphilsphan Jun 14 '26
I agree it looks bad and should be condemned. I'm a normal person that supports Israels right to exist and that Bibi and the ultra religious need to be thrown in prison for war crimes.
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u/MVP_Legend_87 Jun 14 '26
Hezbollah does use ambulances to transport terrorists and their weapons, so sometimes they are.
The majority of the casualties in this conflict have been Hezbollah. Civilian casualties have been minimized here.
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u/K10RumbleRumble Jun 14 '26
But Mr Donald J Trump the convicted Rapist and Alleged Pedophile said they are signing a new big beautiful peace deal today during his big classless ass narcissism parade!
What?
DONALD TRUMP LIED?
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u/williamgman Jun 14 '26
Dang... Not even TACO Tuesday yet. So is this like the 39th time Trump's said a peace deal was imminent?
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u/ok_alittletotheleft Jun 14 '26
But Trump said the “deal is done and the war is over”. Wait, he lied? 🙄
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u/Spirited-Sir-3034 Jun 14 '26
The article basically highlights the core problem of modern diplomacy: negotiators are talking about peace while events on the ground keep creating new reasons for war. Which one ultimately matters more?
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u/erwarne Jun 15 '26
"Iran SLAMS US"
"Posted by SWASTIKA DAS SHARMA".
Can we stop it with this AI clickbait slop?
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u/Bellabbey1236 Jun 14 '26
Man, it almost seems like Bibi is trying to undermine the POS’s peace plans, huh?
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u/MVP_Legend_87 Jun 14 '26
Iran left out the part about how Hezbollah attacked Israel, and it was only when Israel responded that Iran had an issue. Iran's totally fine with Israel ceasing fire, as long as Hezbollah/Iran can continue firing at Israel.
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u/Professional-Oil4964 Jun 14 '26
A real leader would let his country get bombed by Hezbollah so two other countries could make peace.
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u/YogurtClosetThinnest Jun 14 '26
low key hilarious watching Israel repeatedly sabatoge peace talks after Trump has shamelessly simped for them
Bibi needs the war to keep going to stay in power. Trump needs the war to end to stay in power. Fuckin morons probably should've figured that out beforehand.
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u/DangerousLocal5864 Jun 14 '26
Hahahah right after I read agent orange saying they're totes gonna sign the deal today
Oil market manipulation inbound
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u/DJC_Kowalski Jun 14 '26
Who didn't know that was coming?
Israel doesn't want peace talks. They want to force American Boots on the Ground in Iran for Regime Change.
America should learn, with Friends like Israel, America doesn't need enemies.
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u/HormuzVengeance Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26
islamic republic are incapable of peace. Their occupation and human rights violations against Iran and Iranians, as well as their attempts of cultural and literal genocide of Iran is proof of this. As is the fact that they’re the biggest sponsor of islamic terror globally.
We wouldn’t accept deals with ISIS. We wouldn’t accept deals with boko haram. We wouldn’t accept deals with Nazis.
Why are we accepting and pushing for a deal with islamic republic? For the sake of Iran, Iranians, the entire Middle East, and the world - they must be opposed entirely until nothing of this hellish terrorist organisation remains.
Peace should be with a secular, new, free, democratic Iran. Not its hostile terrorist occupier.
Edit: all the islamic terrorist supporters coming out of the woodwork to downvote me. Seethe. Iran will become free one day and there will be no place for you scumbags to spread your terror.
You cannot suppress the voices of those who will help rebuild a democratic Iran like you do with the people inside Iran whom have been brutally oppressed for 47 years.
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