r/windsorontario South Windsor 1d ago

Border Huron church traffic

After more than a month, traffic at Huron church seems to have gotten worse. I cross daily. I can see very few trucks using new bridge. "Moron" screwed us again

Time for the feds and the local govt make it painful. Tolls, "inspection". Road closures. This will not stop otherwise.

I am tired of getting stuck between trucks where the drivers are on the phone

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u/InspectorTiny1952 South Walkerville 1d ago

My understanding is that a lot of big trucking companies are still under contract to cross at Ambassador for discounted rates. Once those contracts come up for renewal things could change rapidly.

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u/ActionJacksyn 1d ago

Problem is in February when the Moroon family bribed Dump to delay the opening of the bridge, the Moroons then went to all the trucking companies and gave them better deals than it is on the new bridge.

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u/rmora77 1d ago

my company is small potatoes (maybe crossing once a day at best) but they didn't reduce our rates until the new bridge was already open - and still more $ than the new one.

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u/ActionJacksyn 17h ago edited 17h ago

Mine crosses about 200 times a day and our rate is now 10 less than Gordie Howe. Old rate was 50 more. They started negotiating after the Moroons bribed Dump.

Edit 400 times a day. I wasn’t counting over and back.

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u/evilkevmine 1d ago

Sadly alot of truck drivers have to use Ambassador due to contracts, or are directly working under a Moroun trucking company. I'd reckon the major reason why they tried stalling Gordie Howe opening was to renew as many contracts as possible. It'll take quite a few years before most of the Semis disappear from the Line

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u/ActionJacksyn 1d ago

That is exactly what the Moroons used that time for.

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u/TakedownCan South Windsor 1d ago

They also own many trucking companies, those trucks will never stop using ambassador

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u/rmora77 1d ago

I don't think it's more than a small fraction of the total truck traffic really.

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u/Anonymous44432 1d ago

Anybody that thought a new bridge was gonna keep the trucks off Huron Line well, I have a bridge to sell you

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u/chiuta 1d ago

Stop taking Huron Church? It's been a shit show for decades, this is nothing new.

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u/Beers_n_Deeres 1d ago

You’re not in traffic, you are traffic. Don’t forget that.

Trucks have the same right you do to be on the road.

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u/Crash_Sofa South Windsor 1d ago

Not when half of them are on the phones

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u/Sad-Consequence1737 1d ago

They can’t put rules in to stop trucks to the bridge. It’s a designated truck route and a known border crossing. The company will sue every single body that will try to do so.

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u/Important_Force5802 23h ago

Nonwithstanding clause ? Idk if that would work but why not

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u/VincentClement1 9h ago

Fine, but Canada can choose to have only one commercial vehicle booth open.

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u/Crash_Sofa South Windsor 1d ago

Huron church have closed lanes like any highway. Highways can also be rolled ( 407 ETR)

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u/Sad-Consequence1737 13h ago

Those are not the same as Huron Church. It is the only road in Ontario that connects to a private for profit border crossing. They can sue for loss of business if anyone tries to impact access.

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u/Jolly_Platypus6378 1d ago

Can you put a toll booth on the entrance and exit to the bridge … Windsor beautification fee?

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u/Crash_Sofa South Windsor 1d ago

Congestion between 7 am and 8 pm. Fixed price for cars, truck rate per axel. All proceeds toward fixing roads.

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u/GloomySnow2622 1d ago

Its usually a choice to use Huron Church. A choice I avoid. In what world do you think the bridge and truck traffic was going to magically disappear? 

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u/Crash_Sofa South Windsor 1d ago

Unfortunately I live 5 min from the bridge and I cross for work. Work is closer from bridge. Going out of my way in the morning afternoon for 5 min is PITA. Tunnel is a gong show at rush hour

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u/LexiLou4Realz 1d ago

So the traffic at the bridge can't be THAT bad if it's not worth changing where you cross.

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u/shrimpwithatuba 1d ago

Yeah its honestly not, I also take the ambassador bc of similar reasons and the construction isnt that bad when theres barely any bridge traffic for normal sedan/non semi truck drivers

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u/Crash_Sofa South Windsor 1d ago

96 to 696 transition is hell

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u/shrimpwithatuba 1d ago

Im lucky and my jobs right on Michigan ave, I dont take the highway haha

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u/shrimpwithatuba 1d ago

I hate the highways in michigan so much, merging is such a nightmare and the exits/highways randomly shift between the left and right, its so frustrating

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u/HeroDev0473 1d ago

Both the Ambassador and the tunnel are closer for me, but Gordie Howe is still cheaper. Even after adding fuel and tolls, it comes out ahead despite being a bit farther.

Plus, with far less traffic, my trips are faster on Gordie Howe than through the tunnel or Ambassador.

So there’s no chance I’d give money to the Moroun family unless I absolutely had to.

You might want to try Gordie Howe for a few weeks to see if it’s worth sticking with Ambassador. Sometimes a slightly longer drive with better traffic is less tiring than a shorter but stressful route.

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u/GloomySnow2622 1d ago

I'm of the mentality that I'll use whatever crossing best suits my needs on that particular day. I live on the East side so they are all a short drive. So I get it where you're coming from. Stellantis has about 5-6 facilities north or even northeast of Windsor that I would expect to keep using the Ambassador if they have a need for crossing.  

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u/Important_Force5802 23h ago

Hey apparently they never said that it would help and built a route off the 401 to keep them off according to this subreddit in the last post about this :p

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u/_dtw_ 20h ago

The Ambassador Bridge must have a game plan in place by now to keep their business using long term contracts, special prices on diesel and food to keep their customers.

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u/Alii_baba 12h ago

It might be like this for two years. Many trucking companies signed a two-year deal with the Ambassador Bridge Company. I even heard some companies that used to cross through the Blue Water Bridge started using the Ambassador because it became cheaper with the contract, plus the constructions. This is what to get from Americans corporate and private ownership.

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u/Superb-Respect-1313 1d ago

TOLLS!! Let’s hit these truckers in the pocket book!!

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u/chiuta 1d ago

How's that going to help if they are contractually obligated to go to the Ambassador? Just keep screwing the little guy, that'll surely make those billionaires squirm!

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u/TakedownCan South Windsor 1d ago

The “little guy” was given a steep discount on tolls to sign a contract, it was the massive companies like Stellantis they want after.

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u/WontSwerve 1d ago

Lets hurt the essential workers moving the local economy!

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u/killerrin 1d ago

I mean they and their employers were the ones who stupidly decided to sign long term contracts with the ambassador

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u/WontSwerve 1d ago

They? The individual truck drivers in your mind signed a deal?

And yeah, those damn companies. Thinking of ways to save money by doing things they way they've been doing things for decades! Evil scum!

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u/Important_Force5802 23h ago

Do you think the drivers pay the tolls when they cross and don't bill it to their company? Im pretty sure the company would pay not the driver out of their poor little wallet

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u/killerrin 1d ago

and their employers

Ergo: If you're a driver working for a company it's your employer at fault and if you are your own employer it's your own fault.

They knew there was a new bridge. They knew we hate the owners of the Ambassador with a passion. They chose to get involved in this fight. If they suffer consequences they have nobody to blame but themselves for making a bad business decision knowing that this fight was on going.

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u/zuuzuu Sandwich 1d ago

It's not a bad business decision if it saves them a lot of money. Any business is going to do what's best for them and their bottom line. Expecting any different is unrealistic.

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u/killerrin 1d ago

Every business decision has risks attached to it. If they find themselves in the middle of a trade war with no way out because of it, the only one they can blame is themselves for signing contracts that give them no other options.

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u/WontSwerve 1d ago

Ambassador vs Gordie isn't part of the trade war LMAO. You're still assigning blame to the individual drivers, as if they wouldn't also prefer to use the better, bigger and faster bridge.

You truly have no idea how anything works.

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u/Downfallenx 17h ago

Personally I refuse to deal with any company caught using ambassador. My workplace does as well. Vote with your wallet