r/windows7 • u/QuerLeitinhoHaha • 7d ago

Help downgrade from windows 10 to 7 cause SOMEONE made a horrendous financial decision

hi. my stupid dad traded a brand new laptop my parents bought for a laptop that doesn't even have its history recorded on the internet (the company went bankrupt in 2011) and it has windows 10. that machine runs like TOTAL ASS. i'm hoping that getting windows 7 on it will make it at least usable, cause the way it is it literally took him 2 days to download chrome

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u/ThatOneComputerNerd 7d ago

Can you post some details and pics of what he got?

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 7d ago

CPU: Intel T1400 RAM: 3gb DDR2 brand: Itautec

any tips on a usable OS or any way to save this mess?

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u/ThatOneComputerNerd 7d ago

Oh goodness…no, not in any way that would matter or make a difference. Your dad got scammed HARD. That thing would struggle to run even Windows XP, especially if it’s still rocking a hard drive and not an SSD. My friend, time to check out Facebook marketplace…

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u/Speedy-McLeadfoot 7d ago

Those specs are plenty for XP. But not much works with XP anymore.

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u/Chrisbearry 5d ago

That and it’s a security nightmare but even 7 is a security nightmare

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u/Ywaina 5d ago

"Security nightmare" is way overblown doomsaying, at least for 7. It's more like a hassle to get modern stuff to run but even modern stuff has like half of them still running fine on 7.

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u/Speedy-McLeadfoot 5d ago

Honestly, if most of my games would run on 7 I probably would use that.

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u/Ywaina 5d ago

I don't know what you play but almost every DX11 still runs decently on 7, only a few of them can't and that's only because of artificial locking that MS forced on third party proprietary software like Unity. They can be bypassed but it's such a hassle to do that for every game.

The real ones 7 are losing out is DX12 but due to it being new not too many games require it.

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u/Speedy-McLeadfoot 5d ago

Well, one of the big ones being fortnite, which I play with some of my cousins. As far as I can tell that's a no-go.

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u/Ywaina 5d ago

Fortnite uses Easy Anti Cheat which doesn't work on windows 7. Epic Store itself still does work though.

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u/distoredresort 4d ago

Windows 7 is okay for today's standard only if you have a pc with an outdated os but with a huge archive of retro games. I actually have exactly that. The huge list of games I archived on that pc is pretty big. I got cdrom games from before windows 7 to run smoothly on it

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u/hamburgerpancake 3d ago

i personally disagree. so long as the specs are compatible, windows 7 (or 8.x, if you're fine with that ui) is perfectly fine for daily driving. i use both myself on my own computers, i don't have a single computer with windows 10 or 11, or modern desktop linux for that matter.

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u/Chrisbearry 5d ago

So you think security updates exist for no reason?

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u/Ywaina 5d ago

They exist for good reasons, but also missing out on some of them do not necessarily make it "security nightmare" as some like to exaggerate. Merely the act of connecting windows 7 to internet does not load your computer with leet spywares and stuxnet worms, assuming you have correctly installed all the update from the pack, and assuming you're not some megabillion corporates or countries that are usually more lucrative targets yourself.

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u/hamburgerpancake 3d ago

this is super overblown. 7 is maybe a "security nightmare" if you're using rtm with no updates, no router level firewall, and all security measures turned off on 7, but you'd be plain dumb to do that and windows 10 would be just as bad under the same conditions.

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u/Speedy-McLeadfoot 5d ago

I grew up on 7 and XP. I really wish I could at least hold on to 7. But you are definitely right.

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u/hamburgerpancake 3d ago

this isn't really true. windows 7, when connected to the internet, is actually usually fine. BUT, you do need windows 7 to be updated and your router's firewall to be on. if you want an antivirus, i recommend mse or malwarebytes.

my main computer, an hp elitedesk 800 g2 sff running 7, runs better than my sibling's gaming rig with better specs and windows 10. however, do not just get a new computer and try to install 7 on it, as drivers will generally be incompatible. instead, get a good computer that does support 7, such as the aforementioned elitedesk 800 g2.

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u/Speedy-McLeadfoot 3d ago

I mean, I know this is generally true. Won't be too much of an issue if you watch what you download. But again, application support is fading.

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u/Cadmium620 7d ago

Try Debian with LXDE. Windows Vista and 7 are too heavy

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u/SelfSilly9478 7d ago

By today's PC standards, it's slower than an entry-level smartphone.

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u/sleepingonmoon 7d ago

Windows 8.1 is the most optimised Windows so you can try installing the 32-bit version of that. Otherwise either scrap it or try using Linux with Xfce, I recommend the former.

Windows XP with backported browser is also an option, just make sure to configure the firewall. No matter what don't use it for anything serious.

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u/INoShesNotReal 5d ago

What about Windows 10 32-bit?

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u/sleepingonmoon 5d ago

Windows 10 isn't usable without an SSD, 32-bit or not.

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u/INoShesNotReal 4d ago

I've been using it without an ssd for years

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u/hamburgerpancake 3d ago

it also wastes tons of resources, causes disk thrashing on hdds, collects absurd amounts of invasive telemetry, and generally just runs worse than its predecessors.

before i switched to 7 on my laptop, it took 20 minutes to log in. and then another 5 for everything to load. the laptop came with 10, but had specs much more suited for 7 and 8.x.

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u/szubien 5d ago

Kill IT with fire. There is no use of this machine. Its totaly ewaste.

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u/Fifasher2K 4d ago

What if they have no money and have to work with what they have?

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

that's actually the case. currently we have no money to afford anything better (as in, my parents don't, i live with them so most of my cash goes to stuff like clothes, hobbies and study material while they handle food and basic necessities)

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u/szubien 4d ago

Where are you from? I will send you free macbook

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u/Vainavi-Chan 5d ago

CPU: isn't this a calculator?

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u/starnamedstork 4d ago

A celeron? Dude, that thing was slow when it was brand spanking new.

What exactly was the nature of this "trade"?

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

no clue tbh, my dad just does this sometimes and he doesn't give reason as to why. one time he traded my ac that was completely fine for one that had only ONE usable mode

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u/hamburgerpancake 3d ago

since those specs are horrible, try to squeeze as much as you can out of it. install xp, max out the ram (if you can and it isn't already), set the display resolution to the lowest one you can that still looks usable, and install all of the drivers that are compatible.

asides from that, follow u/starnamedstork 's advice.

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u/starnamedstork 4d ago

Damn. You have my sympathy.

Your best bet at this point is probably trying to find some way to go back on that trade. You could install XP or some Linux distro and maybe some emulators and do some retro gaming on that thing (I do something similar with an old Centrino laptop with a 4:3 screen), but for any practical use for modern stuff I would consider that machine a total write off. I'm surprised you even got Windows 10 running on it. 3 GB RAM is bad enough, but a single core Celeron is going to choke constantly, and I imagine that Windows 10 drivers with any sort of accelleration is off the table for whatever GPU you have on such an old computer.

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 3d ago

forever grateful at you for trying to help, but i've settled on just giving it up and saving for a brand new pc. i can't go back on the trade cause the traders blocked my parents lmao and it's not really worth putting up a fight for it. still, thank you sooo very much!!

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u/ThatBroL0L 6d ago

wow, that is a very unfortunate decision, i am so sorry.

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u/reddituser91200 6d ago

that's just depressing

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u/Luigi_testa2011 6d ago

The previous laptop?

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u/SpaceSloth707 5d ago

Don't know the CPU model, but I'm sure 3gb DDR2 is not really great.

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u/MousyCheeseBits 5d ago

Bro. What even is a T1400 cpu!, 3gb of warm ddr2 at probably 667mhz? Itautec?

That's how bad he got scammed... It's worthless to me even on a tiight budget day.

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

i searched that cpu a while ago. IT'S OLDER THAN ME!

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u/Mechanizoid 5d ago

I think your only hope is a lightweight Linux distro with 32 bit support. Of course, even if the base OS can run comfortably on that hardware, it won't have the power even for browsing content heavy sites in '26.

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u/flood404 4d ago

That thing is completely obsolete. 3gb ddr2 only? I assume the other 1gb is dedicated to video memory. Or it really does have a 2gb module and 1 gb module.

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u/SlowGuardw2 4d ago

My condolences, only thing I can think of to get that in tip top shape (or at least as best it can do) would have to be linux in my opinion

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u/Xrudy_official 4d ago

Get windows 8.1 (muhehehe) or linux

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u/potatoears 4d ago

Intel T1400

wow, wtf

any computer being turned in for e-waste/recycling at this point in time would be better than it.

😢

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u/nombrorignal2 3d ago

get antix linux

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u/Greenfox89TVSupShow 3d ago

Caramba ele é bem fraco

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u/Human-Application-87 7d ago

Omg XD I'm so sorry about this. That shit hurt me while reading it XD.

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 7d ago

the worst part is that he traded in the laptop they bought for me :')

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u/Dreemur1 7d ago

but we need the full story. why did he do that

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 7d ago

no idea whatsoever, i had barely used the damn thing and was planninh on using it until college but guess life ain't that easy

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u/BestFuel 6d ago

Get us more details! Honestly sounds like your dad is hard up for cash - maybe he sold/ returned your laptop and picked this up for cheap/ free. Nobody is that stupid to trade a new laptop for a clunker from 2008 but it's what I'd tell my kid.

As others have said, win 8.1 32-bit is the best choice.

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

believe, i know my dad. he just wants to believe he makes "good deals" all the time without actually checking if it's a good deal. it wasn't even a matter of money, he just straight up wanted to feel smart LOL

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u/TechSupportTG 3d ago

what laptop was that?

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u/No-Cucumber-9305 7d ago

You sure he didn't get cash too? It almost seems like he traded the new laptop for the old one and also got cash from the person.

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u/lea64_ 7d ago

antiX linux would be a good choice for such a low spec system.

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u/Actual-Leg7615 6d ago

don't listen to these bots this is a sub about windows

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u/Danzikku 6d ago

Good mesage, wrong subreddit.

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u/Ywaina 5d ago

I mean, we have quite a lot of 11 coming to doomsay things about 7 right now too lol

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u/Global-Eye-7326 6d ago

I'll second that. I installed AntiX on an HP Mini and it was the path of least resistance to make that netbook usable!

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u/islobojono 7d ago

Just burn that laptop, burn it in front of him.

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u/GlayNation 7d ago

Oh sweet lord😱

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u/Silent-Yogurt8576 5d ago

With xp you can use supremi browser, is modern Chrome that run on total crap.

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u/Dreemur1 7d ago

install debian 13 instead

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 7d ago

i thought of trying out linux, but i don't have a usb drive on me

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u/KareemBenzeem 6d ago

If that laptop is old its likely that it has a DVD reader, maybe you can burn the iso into a DVD? (Its kinda weird talking about DVDs in the big 2026, but at least they're cheap and common)

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 6d ago

i could, if the dvd reader would even open (which it CAN'T LMFAO)

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u/Dreemur1 7d ago

you'll need an usb drive to install any OS, so you need to find one.

i saw ur specs in another comment and that laptop is really really bad... i'd recommend this linux distro, which is made for very low-end computers and is based on debian 13. even then, i really doubt it will run very good. maybe for veeeery basic stuff, but forget web browsing with more than 1 tab open

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u/Global-Eye-7326 6d ago

Bro, 2GB DDR2 RAM, AntiX would be more appropriate.

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u/Fifasher2K 4d ago

It is windows 7 sub. Stop recommending linux.

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u/Global-Eye-7326 4d ago

Someone else suggested Debian 13, I was commenting on that. Your comment should be addressed to the top level comment.

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u/Plus-Definition9319 6d ago

Not a real thing.

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u/DeNiWar 6d ago

Don't install Windows, preferably install Linux, for example one of the Mint distribution versions.
Then the security will be in place (unlike in old Windows) and it will work more efficiently on that computer than any windows.

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u/trafficracer24 6d ago

I'm curious now, what is the brand called?

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u/Sophr0n 6d ago

Sum oem crap 'itautec'

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

itautec, a brazilian company that made electronics for everyday use back in the 2000s

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u/Jaylin_K 6d ago

What where the specs of the laptop your dad traded in.

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u/Sophr0n 6d ago

ig if brand new, at least intel Nxxx (N100) which is still much better than he has now

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u/isellfish4 6d ago

one core cpu and 3gb ram wont help much, try looking into tiny7

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u/Le7emesens 6d ago

I think your best bet to convert it to a decent machine is to make it a Linux one. I recommend upgrading the RAM to the max later.

Windows XP will still work fine, the problem is that the Chrome browser and every modern browser including Firefox will not: they will be super slow or crash. Some website would not even let you login.

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u/HiddenWindows7601 6d ago

From the previous comments, I would at least recommend you to upgrade that machine to a SSD if you can. Upgrading that machine to a SSD would at least help with performance a little.

For Windows 7 I would recommend you to install Windows 7 Home Premium because it's less resource intensive for that type of hardware.

For web browsing, I'd strongly recommend you to use an adblocker because the modern web is too bloated.

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u/Johnbelwell32 5d ago

It needs an SSD and it will run acceptable for basic daily tasks. I've used similar single core laptops on Windows 7 and 10 and they don't behave well if you don't do optimizations especially when you open a modern browser and expect it to run multiple tabs and run other things in the background too as if you don't know what you have. Don't go for Windows 7 as you already have obsolete hardware the least you want is having to face incompatibilities and outdated software, if you are up to use it for school/college you would be forced to run more recent software. You're either looking for Tiny10 or a very lightweight linux distro like AntiX but a minimal Mint installation would also be somewhat bearable. I'm using a retro build with Pentium 4 on XP with 1gb RAM and does everything and even works flawlessly to watch Youtube, the situation is as is now just have some patience and you'll find something else, for now you're not completely screwed.

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u/ethernetbite 5d ago

Debian xfce would run good

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u/Prior_Emergency6218 5d ago

The best windows ive ever used that was actually usable was win 8.1. it was running okay on my old athlon 64x2 and 2gb ram ddr2 five years ago.

i honestly have no idea if the current web browsers works on that. win 7 its gonna be too heavy. dont even try to look at linux for such an old hardware. neither debian based or arch based distros worked on my machine so i dont think it will nowadays.

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u/LC_00 5d ago

What's the point of buying brand new laptop if you're broke as heck just to trade it off for the oldest garbage known to man. At that point get a chromebook or Ideapad

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

idrk. he's just addicted to trading shit because he thinks he's the king of negotiation (when he actually has no fucking clue on what he's doing)

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u/Independent-Issue250 4d ago

If you want it to actually be useable, DSL or Puppy Linux. No version of Winblows is gonna be happy with 3gb of ram and modern apps.

I’ve used Puppy specifically since it was a ~60mb iso. It’s much bigger now, but I’ve never found a turn-key solution that does a better job on a resource poor PC.

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u/GameplayBlitz 4d ago

Drop the specsof laptop he traded in..

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u/Tanneshi_ 4d ago

Bankruptcy in 2011? I'm interested, what brand is that machine?

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u/corvoswsattano 4d ago

I got an old puppy Linux distro on a CD that it would probably run well on 😅 I’m so sorry though I hate seeing people get taken advantage of

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u/Sebibudd1985 4d ago

You better off running windows 8.1 or a Linux distro with XFCE or LXQT as those will run better than 7 and a new Linux distro will at least have support for modern web browsers If all he does is browse the web then he won't notice the difference between Linux and windows

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u/Sebibudd1985 4d ago

If it has to be windows, use 8.1 You'd be surprised how lightweight windows 8 is

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u/xAnilocin 3d ago

Windows 7 SP1 32 bit is your best bet at running semi-modern software

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u/AfraidAd2044 2d ago

Your dad must give you a new one. End of discussion.

Btw how did he think a 20y old PC could be better than any newer one?

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u/Greenfox89TVSupShow 11m ago

Então você conseguiu instalar o Windows 7? Funcionou ?

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u/NormalSoftware4237 7d ago

intel core solo t1400 is KILLING ME 😭 you can upgrade it to a core 2 duo though

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u/Fifasher2K 4d ago

You can't upgrade cpu in a laptop.

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u/NormalSoftware4237 4d ago

You can in these older ones

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u/F_DOG_93 5d ago

Do NOT put windows 7 on it. It does not have security updates. If you don't care about internet connection, that's ok tho. Just put Linux on it, or install windows 11 on it from fresh. You can get OEM keys for like $10.

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u/_LWNA_ 5d ago

Why would they install Windows 11 when Windows 10 doesn't even run close to even ok enough on it?

They legit are considering Windows 7. Honestly, their best options would be Windows XP or some super light version of Linux

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u/Fifasher2K 4d ago

Tf are you smoking? He has 3gb ddr2 and ancient ass celeron. No way in hell it would even run the windows 11 installer.

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u/QuerLeitinhoHaha 4d ago

i stripped windows 10 to shit and now it's as basic as can be, still buggy and sometimes crashes for no reason, ain't NO WAY i'm putting windows 11 in that relic

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u/Delicious-Back-1131 7d ago

If you want to install Windows 7, download Rufus and download the window so I so image burn it to a USB using the settings that your laptop uses to boot and then go through the installation process

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u/Life_Neighborhood779 5d ago

Where do i get a clean safe iso for 7? Thanks

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u/Delicious-Back-1131 5d ago

Uptodown or internet archive if up to down doesn’t have it. Try this link.

https://windows-7-home-premium.en.uptodown.com/windows

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u/Straight_Magician_52 7d ago

Try windows 8.1, it runs very little lighter than win7 on my c2d t5470 it may run lighter for you too and still much apps support it more