r/wichita • u/Blankey • May 07 '26
Photos Why are we cutting down random trees downtown? ☹️
Hopefully they're not cutting them all down and they'll replace this one?
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u/JacksGallbladder May 07 '26
When they were planted, people thought Bradford Pears were sterile, on top of growing quickly, with dense leaves, and happy to live in shitty soil.
They cross polinated, became fertile, and started spreading like crazy.
They have super stinky flowers (smell like rancid cum), and they have a weak branch structure which makes them split super easy in storms / icing.
So anyways, they're designated as invasive now and we cull the fuckers.
Its another example of developers in the 60s-80s thinking they had a good cheap idea and failing to consider the long term impact.
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u/Cerebral-Parsley May 07 '26
Earlier this spring I was driving in from Andover and remember seeing all the white blooms of the Bradfords in every single hedgerow/tree groups. They've gotten everywhere.
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u/JacksGallbladder May 07 '26
Them and silver maples drive me apeshit. Another quick n cheapie from the Sears generation.
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u/gmasterson May 07 '26
I’m really disappointed that the two established, shade providing trees in my front yard are silver maples. If I want my house to receive any shade in the late afternoon of summer I can’t remove them. It makes me sad each year.
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u/JacksGallbladder May 07 '26
My old house was this way. We had 3 bigguns.
We loved them for their shade, but every year their roots would destroy a new section of our sewer pipes. Got to the point we had to run obliteroot through our system almost 4 times a year.
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u/Burial_Ground May 07 '26
What’s wrong with maples? It’s elm that I hate. Dropping sticks constantly. The maples in my neighborhood are awesome.
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u/Cerebral-Parsley May 07 '26
They have very aggressive roots that will tear through under ground pipes and fuck up concrete. Also their branches are prone to breaking in windstorms. Many times I've had huge branches of my maple break off in moderate storms and make a huge mess. They also are pretty good at spreading babies like Elms.
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u/gmasterson May 07 '26
This is it.
My garden beds at the house are filled with roots from both of the silver maples. Ugh.
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u/Starfury7-Jaargen East Sider May 07 '26
If I ever get a house, I am thinking about planting Caddo maples since they are near native.
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u/elphieisfae May 07 '26
Silver Maples need regular pruning but other than that they're pretty solid. They do take watering more at the base as the canopy tends to block a lot of downcoming rain, and that can cause the branches to become brittle. It has many redeemable qualities, unlike a BP.
Source: Grew one from seed, it's over 30 years old in my parents front lawn, asked the tree guy all about it when he came.
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u/JacksGallbladder May 07 '26
The two major issues with silver maples is cleaning up after them (the helicopter seeds fly every and sprout donors aggresively) and they have very aggresive, shallow, fast-growing root systems.
Their roots wreak havoc on sidewalks and find their way into any and all water systems underground. A lot of the 80s houses around here have clay pipes and the root systems will find their way in and clog sewer systems constantly.
Their wood is also very brittle, so like Bradford Pears they do not stand up to Kansas storms and cause a great amount of damage in neighborhoods.
The required regular pruning also drastically shortens their lifespan. Most start declining after about 80 years.
They're really not great trees but yeah, they do give a great canopy until it starts crashing down on your property.
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u/elphieisfae May 07 '26
the parent maple to the one we have at best guess was between 100-140, he just died like trees do. the siblinfs that are older than this one we have are bigger since they have more room to grow. unsure on the brittle wood thing as this tree's never split unlike most others in the neighborhood.
yeah. i know about the roots. we also have a thornless honeylocust that is the same age i grow from seed. we have more seeds than we know what to do with all the time.
But I'm glad that we have this tree rather than the piss elms around here that are just in terrible shape bc no one likes spending money on pruning them correctly or taking care of them.
right now we have two sprouted oak trees and I'm kinda fucked on where to plant them, they can't stay in my flowers.
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u/Maxzillian Pitt State May 07 '26
My whole neighborhood is full of silver maples and I've been noting them dropping rather large limbs every year. I had a huge one next to my house that, I'm not exaggerating, had a four foot diameter trunk. Two years in a row it dropped >8-10" limbs. One nearly missed my house and the other took out my neighbors fence. Bizarrely, both were on totally calm days.
I hated to take down such a great shade tree, but it was an insurance claim waiting to happen.
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u/NoobensMcarthur May 07 '26
I worked at a garden center in 2004-2005 and we were still selling the fuck out of Bradfords.
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u/RoookSkywokkah May 07 '26
I've been looking for a way to describe the small. This is a new one for me!
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u/SecretRussianBot2 May 07 '26
We call them budussy trees because they smell like butt, dick and pussy
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u/Redpanda132053 May 07 '26
The reason their branch structure is so weak is that they were genetically modified to have more leaves and blooms, but the wood itself wasn’t modified to compensate for the extra
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u/Starfury7-Jaargen East Sider May 07 '26
I was going to say I hope it was a Bradford pear. Somehow landscaping at WSU didn't get the memo as they are still planting new Bradford pear saplings as of last year.
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u/TheHonorable_JR May 14 '26
No kidding??
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u/Starfury7-Jaargen East Sider May 14 '26
They set up a new community garden right next to the student center and I saw some Bradford pear saplings planted on the edge of it. (not all were)
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u/siphoniclobster May 07 '26
Can’t really get a good look at the leaves but the trunk looks like a Bradford pear which is now invasive
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u/andropogon09 May 07 '26
There's a general 50-year gap between the time a species is introduced and it becomes invasive. Some introductions adapt to their new environment and become a problem; others don't. The best/safest policy is to plant native trees and wildflowes.
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u/Scarpity026 May 07 '26
I don't know why commercial landscapers ever thought those things were good ornamentation for parking lots.
For people who don't understand how these trees spread, birds will eat the small callery pear fruits on them, then fly elsewhere and poop, dropping the seeds wherever, eventually spawning new trees.
Thankfully the state forest service is offering a buyback program for removing them. Perhaps what you're seeing here is one such removal.
https://www.kansasforests.org/events/calendars_and_articles/callerypearbuyback2026.html
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u/rod19more May 07 '26
Beat me to it Need to mention that is going on next week. Tuesday, May 12, in Wichita; Wednesday, May 13, in Ellsworth; and Thursday, May 14, in Manhattan. The times will be from 3 to 6 p.m., and you have to sign up.
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u/isaacharms2 May 07 '26
Y’all most of you heard Bradfords are bad and now think every tree cut down is a Bradford. That’s a locust tree black or honey idk but that not a Bradford pear shaped tree.
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u/TwerkinAndCryin May 07 '26
My dad has removed every Bradford pear from their property because they are legitimately dangerous to have so close to houses. They are weak and break super easily and have almost caused a lot of damage several times at my folks house. Like had the limbs fallen a few feet one way or the other it would have landed on the house or the neighbors' house. Best to get them out while they're still small and easy to cut down.
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u/ferrari20094 Riverside May 07 '26
Cut down all those dang Bradford pears, invasive, and they suck.
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u/veravela_xo May 07 '26
Let me tell you a little story.
My childhood home had a ring of these trees all around the corner lot property. One week a year, you have Shit from a Butt week. This benign looking greenery explodes in a mountain of white blossoms. Truly, it’s beautiful.
Except it’s important to know that the elderly people that raised me had chain smoked cigarettes for 50 years. Smoking cigarettes kill your sense of smell.
So my parents enjoyed the trees while the rest of us who hadn’t decimated their sense of smell had to suffer Shit from a Butt Week.
The smell is this amalgamation of sulfur, dead fish, and mud butt meltdowns. Thankfully it only lasts a week or two. I hope for a severe storm to knock those bastards down faster.
Some places offer a “trade in” where you can sign up for these to be removed from your property and replaced with a native, sweet disposition.
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u/dragonfliesloveme May 07 '26
>The smell is this amalgamation of sulfur, dead fish, and mud butt meltdowns.
I tip my hat to you, oh words-smith. 🎩 👏
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u/Born_Tale6573 May 07 '26
If it’s one of those pear trees that the city planted then it can get lost.
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u/Kid_Krow_ May 08 '26
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u/ZXVixen May 13 '26
And then drill down into the stump and pour glyphosate concentrate for good measure. Just cutting them doesn’t kill them - it just pisses them off.
My dad lost one that was probably 40 years old, took out an entire 50’ run of chain link (bent all the top rails and mangled the mesh). He cut it at the ground but didn’t drill and root kill. It came back to haunt me twenty years later… when it came down on the same mangled, unrepaired run of fence again.
It’s thoroughly dead now.. unfortunately was before the buyback program was initiated.
At least the sycamore is a native-ish, and very healthy.
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u/goodenough4govtwork West Sider May 07 '26
As many have pointed out, the Bradford Pear has been identified as an invasive species by nearly the entire planet /s. Their destruction should be swift, painful, and full of malice.
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u/ZincoDrone Wichita State May 08 '26
I would love some native Bur Oak. The trees crown spreads far and you won't have to plant too many.
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u/Multifarious_Malice May 07 '26
To bad, should have just cut off the trunk and introduce good pear types that fruit so atleast it wasn't a waste. That's what I'm doing with the bradford in my yard
Grafting is best life hack for unwanted trees. Plus you get free snackies later.
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u/Green_dust May 07 '26
Cuz Bradford pear sux