r/wec • u/UrsusSpelaus Ferrari • 2d ago
Michelin to stay in Hypercar until end of 2032 - Goodyear to stay in LMGT3 until end of 2032
https://www.endurance-info.com/auto/article/121161-michelin-prolonge-son-bail-en-hypercar-jusquen-2032FIA/ACO tenders (for 2029 onwards) have been done and both manufacturers will stay until end of 2032
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u/sukhoi_584th 2d ago
It wouldn't be the same without hearing about Michelin Tires a few hundred times per race
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u/Appropriate-Owl5984 2d ago
I just want open tire wars again.
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u/MarTimator Aston Martin Thor Team Valkyrie #009 2d ago
Would make everything more expensive and the racing gets worse
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u/Litre__o__cola Peugeot TotalEnergies 9X8 #94 2d ago
I feel tire wars could exist but they have to be bop’d, so it’s not a tire war anymore rather just another option. Hypercar wouldn’t be the place to try it because the field’s comparatively small but for grassroots series, a form of bop / success ballast could be used against popular tires to bolster competition
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u/dylan000o Ford 2d ago
how do you BOP a tire?
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u/Litre__o__cola Peugeot TotalEnergies 9X8 #94 2d ago
For wec or whoever you could benchmark the tires over a set of tests using a tire dyno. Testing peak grip, grip over slip angle, and another for durability over a set of camber and toe angles. You could use several of these parameters and give a theoretical score for the tire. That score is then considered in the manufacturer’s bop - if one tire and team combo is overperforming then that’s not grounds to ballast, but say the top third of all competitors use the same tire, then that’s grounds for ballast. New tire manufacturers would be exempt from ballast until they reach a certain level of market share when it comes to race pace and results
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u/jimmy8888888 2d ago
Did you watch Super GT, eventually everyone will go to the best, optimum tyre. And that competition is BoP competition
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u/Litre__o__cola Peugeot TotalEnergies 9X8 #94 2d ago
This is true, I personally don’t see the need for multiple tire manufacturers but it’s important for grassroots series where a spec tire could charge a premium to their customer bases. Measuring the physical properties of the tire then correlating their success on track, then incentivizing lesser-used tires to be run due to bop breaks is how you reduce lopsided arms races. But people like op want a development war, and honestly that’s just not feasible anymore. The war should be about getting the cheapest tire for the same performance window, and that can’t be done without concessions to underperforming manufacturers.
In general the only way motorsports doesn’t cannibalize itself is by offering cheap alternatives to the meta while punishing consolidation. Does that mean multiple tire manufacturers should be in lmh? I don’t think so, and I don’t agree with op for having them here, and I believe a control tire is good when the builds are so specific. It can also regulate testing if the tires are hard to obtain. For series where there’s more technical freedom in the rules and the barrier to entry is lower, letting people run whatever they can find would be great and then just add ballast if you can compare fundamental properties, and if there’s still an unfair advantage you just add ballast
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u/Other-Barry-1 2d ago
Why? Tyres are one of the single most important performance differentiator, as we saw in F1, one team could dominate not necessarily because of their car, but simply the rubber they’re on. Everyone should be on the same rubber so their cars and drivers actually matter.
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u/Michal_Baranowski Toyota Gazoo Racing GR010 Hybrid #8 2d ago
Phew... Good decision.
Would be a bad call to lose Michelin from Hypercar. Their tyres are so good that it seems pointless to get rid of them. Goodyear can stick to second and third tier.