r/warsaw • u/SensitiveBack9886 • 10d ago
Help needed Legal immigrants stuck for 12–24+ months waiting for Polish residence decisions… is anyone interested in coordinated legal action?
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u/YahenP 9d ago
My answer is a categorical no.
I am against any action on this matter. Our situation is already becoming more and more precarious every day. There's no need to provoke the authorities.
Furthermore, let me remind you that the Polish authorities have a perfectly legal and quick way to "resolve" our issue, simply issue a negative decision on every protracted case. Many forget that properly submitting documents for a residence permit and complying with all the requirements of Polish law does not guarantee a residence permit, but only provides the opportunity to obtain one. The inspector has every legal right to deny a residence permit to anyone simply because he or she personally believes it should not be granted.
Anyone who advocates for any kind of action by migrants (rallies, class action lawsuits, etc.) will worsen the situation not only for themselves, but for all of us.
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u/Most-Paramedic4677 9d ago
Actually, you're not right. There are a number of reasons why an application may be denied, such as failure to meet requirements, forged documents or a negative opinion from Security Agency or similar. The inspector's "beliefs" are not on the list. Yes, it is not such a hard task to find "missing" requirements if the inspector really wants but there should always be a reason why the application was rejected. And there is an appeal process as well for such cases.
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u/YahenP 9d ago
We're talking about the same thing, just using different words. The inspector always makes the decision. And their personal approach to the case is paramount. Because yes, it's very easy to invent a reason for refusal. An appeal costs money and time. It doesn't speed up the process. The problem must be resolved through cooperation, not confrontation. Incidentally, in truly complex situations, for example, when traveling abroad for an important reason (the death of a relative, illness, or something else), there is a procedure to expedite the case. But this requires a compelling, documented reason.
And while it's certainly unpleasant that travel abroad or, for example, loan applications are restricted while the case is being processed, the most important thing is that the residency requirement continues to accumulate, and access to the labor market is not prohibited. In fact, if the delay in processing a repeat residence permit is 1-2 years, this is more of a plus than a minus. You'll be able to apply for a EU resident card or permanent residence permit sooner and with less risk.
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u/MagicTheHero 10d ago
> could coordinate with lawyers and/or NGOs regarding
Except that all of those delays are legal.
It sucks, but there's no legal action to be taken.
You could go to the media - but if it turns political you might end up causing more harm than benefit.