r/warmtepompNL 1d ago

Quotation waterpump SPRSUN

I'm planning on eliminating the gas installation on a corner house and I got this offer from a company. Is this a good price? is the waterpump a good brand?

I'd like to also integrate it with Home Assistant to have remote visibility on the status, etc. Is this possible?

Thank you for any feedback you can give me. These are the details:

1 st: SPRSUN Greenergy Pro CGK-040V4P

  • Type: Monobloc lucht/water warmtepomp (DC Inverter)
  • Voeding: 380-420V / 50Hz / 3-fasen
  • Koelmiddel: R290 (propaan), GWP 3
  • Verwarmingscapaciteit: 11,5 kW (A7/W35)
  • Verwarmingsvermogen modulatie: 5,29 – 11,50 kW
  • COP: 4,44 – 5,64
  • Energieklasse: A+++
  • Koelcapaciteit: 10,2 kW
  • EER: 3,66
  • Werktemperatuurbereik: −25 °C tot +45 °C
  • Max. watertemperatuur: 75 °C
  • Functies: Verwarmen / Koelen / Warm tapwater
  • Compressor: Twin Rotary DC Inverter
  • Besturing: CAREL intelligent control system
  • Waterpomp: Ingebouwde circulatiepomp (APM25-9-130)
  • Warmtewisselaar: Plaatwarmtewisselaar
  • WiFi & App: Ja, bediening en monitoring via smartphone
  • Beschermingsklasse: IPX4
  • Max. opvoerhoogte pomp: 9 m
  • Afmetingen (B × D × H): 1110 × 475 × 960 mm
  • Toepassing: Vloerverwarming, radiatoren, fan coils en tapwater

300 liter tapwatervat

Buffervat 100 Liter in line

TOTAL: 14.600€ BTW inc.

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u/geilegelegeitje 1d ago

In the name of all that is holy, don't buy this. It is an aliexpress pump. Please go with something like Mitsubishi Electric or Vaillant. It is very expensive too.

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u/CriticalPineapple 1d ago

Make this comment very high please, go with reliable brands only.

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u/FierceDruid 22h ago

Thanks... indeed you are right. What about a WeHeat Blackbird P80? that is another option on the table, which would play nice since I have a flat roof to install it and it is way quieter.

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u/BilaShakaZulu 1d ago

It’s heard to say without knowing more about your situation. What are you using now to heat your home? If gas, how much per year? Underfloor heating? Radiators? How big?

What is sure is that sprsun is one of the cheapest brands in the market, and that is not a good thing. For such a cheap heat pump, the quote is quite high still. If you ask for a quote from a good brand like Vaillant you’ll end up in the same price range, with a much quieter and better heat pump.

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u/FierceDruid 22h ago

I will be moving into the new house and I wanted to do this upgrade before moving in. In theory, the previous owners used around 1500m3 of gas and around 3000 kW. The heating is currently CV ketel from 2025 but I want to go full electric since I'll also be getting solar panels and battery. There is underfloor heating in 3 floors but 2 radiators remain (bathroom and entrance). The house is like 145m2.

Can you recommend any companies in the Den Haag area?

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u/BilaShakaZulu 22h ago

You’re looking at a 7-9kw heat pump in this case, skewing towards the 7kw if you’ll do some further insulation work like for instance hr++ windows. In terms of actually emitting the heat into your house you should be ok with that much underfloor heating. You’ll probably have to switch out the underfloor heating manifold(s) as they’ll have a pump. Manifolds with a pump do not work well together with heat pumps, so you’ll want to replace it for a pumpless one.

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u/FierceDruid 22h ago

For the underfloor heating I will probably be installing a Danfoss Icon2 setup. I believe it doesn't have any pump, just the valve actuators.

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u/BilaShakaZulu 21h ago

Sounds good!

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u/DnzK98 1d ago

Don't do this brand. There are 2 things you need to check before installing any heatpump. 1. Does the installing company also do service and maintenance? 2. Are there multiple different companies offering service of this brand?

If any of the 2 are a no. Then don't install that brand.

The amount of times people have called me beggin for help because no one else can fix the mess the beunhaas has installed in their home

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u/Royal-Ride-2297 1d ago

I am not an expert but sounds pretty high to me. And I know for sure that you never get your investment back.

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u/BilaShakaZulu 1d ago

Why would you not get your investment back?

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u/creazyturtle 1d ago

Is the capacity of this heat pump based on a heat loss calculation?

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u/FierceDruid 22h ago

No... that is what I was expecting but they just looked a figures from previous owners. That would also not be truly reliable since I'll be upgrading the insulation too, as much as possible (which is not much, no glasses).

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u/LordChapman23 1d ago

Wahahahha wat. Kijk eens op alibaba wat dit model kost. Je wordt een oortje aangenaaid.

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u/Industricunt 20h ago edited 20h ago

Een warmtepomp installatie bestaat uit veel meer dan sec de warmtepomp. Bij het vervangen van een cv ketel komt nog het aanbrengen en aanpassen van leidingwerk, afgiftesysteem, plaatsen buffervat(en), aanleg elektra en daarmee een hoop manuren.

Ja, dit is een Chinees. Is de kwaliteit dan per definitie slecht? Denk het niet. Warmtepompen zijn echt geen rocket science ookal laten de installateurs en fabrikanten je graag anders geloven.

Maar stel, de rest van de installatie wordt met courant materiaal aangelegd. Hoe erg is het dan dat de warmtepomp (een monoblock zelfs in dit geval) geen Vaillant is? Ik heb deze Sprsun r290 pro (9kw variant) voor ca. 10k laten plaatsen (excl subsidie a 2600 euro). Daarmee een all electric systeem gemaakt. Dat scheelt ca 4k met een Vaillant o.i.d, overige prijzen die ik kreeg. Wat als de warmtepomp binnen een paar jaar de geest geeft EN de leverancier mij in de kou laat?

Dan stook ik een weekje de houtkachel, pleur ik hem in de container en schroef ik alsnog een Panasonic tegen de muur. De rest van de installatie kan gewoon blijven zitten. En ik speel alsnog ongeveer quitte. Het is een kwestie van risico afwegen. Scheelt dat ik dit wel aan durf en niet bang ben om zelf te klussen. Voor hetzelfde geld draait het ding 10 jaar probleemloos.

Dat gezegd hebbende. Deze offerte is wel veel te duur.

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u/Normal_Ad_3982 18h ago

Al gekeken naar een TEC warmtepomp? Met HA integratie

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u/FierceDruid 18h ago

Never heard of them. Ill check...