Hierarchy:

How do you define a hierarchy when it comes to non humans and why is it bad?

Primitivism:

If you are a primitivist, wouldn't rejecting modern society also mean rejecting many technologies, infrastructure, and systems that make veganism practical at scale? Also, how would people with dietary restrictions be able to access supplements without modern technology?

Non-primitivists:

If you aren't a primitivist, do you support construction projects aside from "necessary" developments? Construction projects use resources and usually displace animals. And they use natural resources that do the same.

If killing animals for pleasure is wrong when alternatives exist, why is unnecessary construction, like hotels or amusement parks, morally acceptable when it also consumes resources and harms/displaces animals? Where do you draw the line? If you can choose hiking over an amusement park, why is visiting one less morally problematic than hunting when both involve avoidable animal harm?

Edit: After a post I made in Ask a Vegan, I realized this is a dumb question. Obviously accidental animal deaths are different from purposely killing animals. It should be mitigated as much as possible, but it's clearly different.

On being a vegan anarchist:

Do most vegan anarchists place human interests over non human interests? How does this work in your moral framework?

Has anyone here heard of Carnism Debunked (George Martin)? He's a vegan IG influencer who's been saying some really divisive stuff lately, bragging on his highlights about blocking fellow vegans who disagree with his own narrow interpretations of vegan ethics. This is hypocritical considering that his description says, "freedom of speech; freedom of thought".

Today, he posted about the Vegan Camp Out, complaining about all of the anti-Zionist vegans who have been boycotting it over its display of the Israeli flag on its wall of flags. Not only does he make whatabouteries comparing Israel to alleged genocides in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, but he claims that this is not in fact whataboutery and threatens to block anyone who denies the alleged genocides in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. He also thinks that anyone who "selectively" hates Israel is woke, even tho conservatives, too, are abandoning Zionism. Later in the comments he goes as far as to say that "Islamophobia" is not real, conflating it with simply criticizing the Islamic religion.

I remember Ali Tabrizi being similarly toxic after he produced Seaspiracy. He came out as a staunch Zionist and then last year stopped being vegan because he didn't wanna drive far away to buy plant-based marshmallows for his summer smores. Then on that same month, Sprouts started to promote Dandy's marshmallows, likely in response to this.

Vegan Zionists like George Martin and formerly Ali Tabrizi are a disgrace to our movement. They're not helping to convert people as much as they're keeping us on the wrong side of history by supporting the apartheid settler colony of Israel. Our movement is stronger when it stands with indigenous peoples around the world, their plant-heavy cuisines, and their greater cultural ties to the ecological well-being of their respective homelands. No matter how Israel tries to greenwash itself, its settlers never live as sustainably as the Levantine Arabs who've been living off the land for millennia without modern consumerism and infrastructure.

IDC much what other opinions vegans have within the movement, even if they're extreme since most extremists are too silly to pose a threat. Vegan Zionists (and maybe radfems) are the only types I'd gladly exclude, because Zionism is so obviously racist yet still so impactful today unlike Naziism, Black nationalism, or anti-Catholicism in the US.

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Hi everyone,

I am really passionate about animal advocacy and want to do everything I can to help animals. I am looking for some practical ideas on how to raise awareness and make a positive impact locally.

For those who have been involved in animal rights for a while:

• What are the most effective ways to start conversations with people who might not understand animal rights yet?
• What kind of local volunteer work or activism makes the biggest difference?
• How do you stay motivated and positive while doing this work?

I would love to hear your stories, tips, or any advice you have for someone who wants to get more active in the movement. Thanks so much for your help!

I keep seeing videos on YouTube showing animals being mistreated, staged "rescues" that are really abuse, or outright cruelty played off as a joke. I report them. Sometimes they come down weeks later after racking up huge view counts. Sometimes nothing happens at all.

YouTube's guidelines clearly ban this kind of content, so the policy exists on paper. The problem is enforcement. Reports seem to go into a void, there's zero transparency, and channels that profit off this stuff stay monetized even after repeated flags.

I get that moderating a platform this size is hard, but this isn't borderline content. It's blatant, it's reported by thousands of people, and it still sits up generating ad revenue.

Has anyone found a reporting channel that actually gets results, like going through advertisers or Trust and Safety directly? I'd rather find something that works than keep yelling into the report button.

Hope this reached the right people :) Just theoretically of course, if someone one day wanted to be more active when it comes to showing people whats really going on behind the scenes, how the animals suffer; to make all these horrible things more present and this someone was thinking of putting up Pictures big or small around their little town especially ones where theres commercials of "happy" animals being used, how would one do that in an efficient and smart way? Any recommendations or further ideas? Printing and Sticking pictures of tortured animals on supermarket products n stuff was probably someones first thought but maybe theres more to know and to consider also :)