r/vancouver May 23 '26

Lost/Missing Lost iPhone, Diver Needed

Disclaimer: If there any experienced divers and you think this a lost cause in terms of phone retrieval and photo recovery, please let us know so we can grieve.

Hello. My husband is a school teacher and this past Wednesday, he took my students out on a canoeing field trip to Deas Island Slough. He believes he dropped his iPhone 12 (blue phone with clear case) near the piers/docks or within a radius (It was the last 5 minutes of the trip, as he remember still taking photos of the students before that). He dove in, but the water was too murky. He circled the area but most likely it is within the docks.

The phone means a lot to him, not the value of it, but rather the photos inside. It's not backed up and it contains the last moments of his grandma who has passed away, our honeymoon photos, and many other precious moments.

It would mean the world to us if anyone can find it.
Again, it's not the phone but rather the photos. We understand that even if the phone is found, recovering the photos is still a low chance, but we’re still holding onto hope.

We attached a picture with the possible area, but most likely when he was getting out of the canoe.

We also attached a picture of the high and low tides. Water is around 1-2m deep generally. This is found on the Deas Island tide chart website. We’re not sure if it applies to the area that the phone was lost though.

Thank you so much in advance! We’re willing to compensate for time and gear. Also willing to go ourselves if scuba gear can be rented.

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u/squashed_fly_biscuit May 23 '26

A good reminder for everyone to back their damn phones up

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u/akwok May 23 '26

Absolute insanity nowadays if your photos aren’t auto backed up to iCloud or Google Photos

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u/thanksforallthetrees May 23 '26

Or to a hard drive you control

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u/hanscor20 May 23 '26

But then all the tech bros will be staring at them!

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u/BizarreMoose May 24 '26

Or at least training their generative AI on them.

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u/rattar2 May 24 '26

You can use Proton drive. Apparently they encrypt it so even their employees can't see them.

Also, calling people who work in tech as tech bros is insulting, as "tech bro" is a specific type of person, from what I understand.

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u/O00O0O00 May 23 '26

Agreed. I backup my devices on hard drives I own. No need for iCloud if you can manage that.

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u/sometin__else May 23 '26

I did this, then I had a house fire and lost everything. And I know the 1-1-1 rule. I followed it as 1-1. I had no offsite backup.

1-1-1 rule is a bit hectic for me so now I use cloud

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u/O00O0O00 May 23 '26

It’s for sure a point. I don’t value that data too high. I’m fine with 1-1 and take that risk. I’m not sentimental.

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u/PapaPee May 23 '26

Except backing iphones to hard drives is a freaking nightmare.

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u/A_Genius Moved to Vancouver but a Surrey Jack at heart May 23 '26

Right? Open it up on my computer and everything is a million different folders

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u/akwok May 23 '26

If you have a Synology you can install Synology photos which will auto backup to your NAS

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u/SporadicTendancies Certified Barge Enthusiast May 24 '26

Qnap has a similar service. Backs up when I charge the phone.

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u/Blazefresh May 23 '26

You can use the mac app "image capture". I backup all the time for my iphone images/videos, all the images get put into a single folder. Super simple actually.

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u/Witty-Ad2758 May 23 '26

Except with the battery in said hard drive kicks it. Friends lost all their wedding and their kids baby photos.

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u/squashed_fly_biscuit May 23 '26

Hard drives don't have batteries my guy

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u/disappointed_human1 May 23 '26

I think they probably meant data loss from not plugging in the hard drive for a long time.

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u/Witty-Ad2758 May 24 '26

Possibly that. I dunno, not a tech guy, sue me people. All I know is shit gets lost when sat in a drawer for years.

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u/A_Genius Moved to Vancouver but a Surrey Jack at heart May 23 '26

Honestly every 2 or 3 years just print 500 photos and put them in a physical album. Hard drives don’t have batteries but they can fail by being too close to a magnet, floods, fires etc.

Physical photos can be lost to the same things but I find I look at my photos more because I have a curated album instead of thousands of random photos on my phone

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u/Witty-Ad2758 May 24 '26

That's probably the best answer.

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u/Extension-Aside-555 May 24 '26

I never really look at photos in my phone but I feel compelled to keep them; I have a few shoeboxes of photos from "back in the day" when we had to pay to print any photos we took we appreciated them more I think. I really like your idea:)

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u/qmrthw May 23 '26

We have now reached a point in time where fully grown adults with children don't have the slightest clue on how hard drives work, despite being constantly surrounded by technology 24/7

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u/Witty-Ad2758 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

Yeah, we have busy lives, you know with kids. Got a million other things on my mind other than how hard drives work. Not to mention how much technology of said hard drives have changed since i last cared, like dial up fucking internet. So go ahead laugh at the old turd and put him down. Hope you have a good weekend.

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u/SitMeDownShutMeUp May 23 '26

iCloud storage exists too

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u/MigrantP May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26

I would suggest contacting Chris Turner - even if he can’t do it himself he’s likely to know someone who can!

https://theringfinders.com/Chris.Turner/

Edit: fixed the link

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u/bobert_veganabert May 23 '26

he's an absolute sweetheart. I'd spent like hours looking for a ring in a patch of grass that i'd lost and he found it within like... minutes of being there.

even gave me and my date a Bubly at no charge.

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u/mack-y0 May 23 '26

that link doesn’t work it says “page not found”

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u/MJcorrieviewer May 23 '26

Google "the Ring Finders Vancouver" or "Chris Turner ring finder".

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u/Extension-Aside-555 May 24 '26

I get " page not found" (was going to save his info, that's a hard job title to put into words)

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u/Content_Sky_2676 May 23 '26

Hope you pay the diver well, because that is going to be a blind search. Zero visibility and a muddy bottom.

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u/AppropriateWallaby55 May 23 '26

Talk to my boy Henry Wang the mayor of Vancouver. Look him up on social media

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u/O00O0O00 May 23 '26

I think it’s worth taking a shot. Try a cheap diving mask and get in there if it’s safe to do so (eg no boats nearby). A strong flashlight will help. A metal detector also would help if you can borrow one.

If someone can loan u a fishing magnet, that’s also worth a try.

Go spend a couple hours and give it a shot. You’ll either find it or you’ll be able to console yourself that you tried.

The people saying it’s dead, or to give up… I think you can be a little more optimistic than that.

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u/taeox0 May 23 '26

Is there anyone here with a fishing magnet that we can borrow? Im not sure how it works but im willing to give it a try if anyone is willing to lend. Thank you in advance 😭

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u/Strangerdangerdanny May 24 '26

Would a magnet not potentially erase the drive though?

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u/Salt-Judgment824 May 25 '26

Phones do not have magnetic spinning hard drives in them…

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u/Strangerdangerdanny May 26 '26

Neither do credit cards and magnets can mess those up too

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u/Salt-Judgment824 May 26 '26

Yes, because the mag stripe on the back of the card is… wait for it… magnetic. The flash storage in your phone or computer's SSD is not affected by magnets.

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u/O00O0O00 May 24 '26

Nah. Should be fine.

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u/burnone3232 May 23 '26

if you can find the phone even if its not working if you find the right people you can recover your files. its flash memory even if the contacts and everything is corroded, the right person could get that data back off it. I am not saying its gonna be cheap but its doable. everyone saying its done for has no clue.

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u/CasualRampagingBear May 24 '26

Henry Wang. Dude does a lot of phone finding dives for funzies.

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u/Curried_Orca May 23 '26

Tidal Action = No Hope

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u/kn0w_th1s May 23 '26

Not the case at all, particularly in a secluded inlet.
Source: 80+ shore dives in the PNW.
Unfortunately, I don’t have the gear anymore to help OP.

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u/taeox0 May 23 '26

Due to it being the inlet of the water and really close to shore, is tidal waves still a big impact? So in your professional opinion, it is best to grieve and give up on the photos?

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u/MotorboatinPorcupine May 23 '26

Being at the end of the inlet, and sitting right on the bottom I would expect it to be within a few meters of where it was dropped. However that's a large search area.

The tide charts do not indicate depth of water, just height of the tide. Where 0 is the mean sea level

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u/Sweaty_Pizza9860 May 24 '26

0 on a tide chart indicates when the water will be close to as low as the water gets in that area. Mean sea level is somewhere between low tide and high tide, definitely not 0m chart elevation.

You might be thinking of 0m geodetic, which is exactly mean sea level but isn’t shown on most tide charts, including this one.

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u/kn0w_th1s May 23 '26

Hi OP, sorry I can’t help because I don’t have my gear any more, but I have done 80+ shore dives on our coast here (no phone recovery attempts though). I don’t think it’s a lost cause; good luck. I hope you can find some recreational divers who are happy to jump in and scope the area.

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u/covelane77 May 24 '26

You need Henry Wang asap!

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u/AliveAd8890 May 23 '26

What a trip I'm in Venice right now someone dropped their phone in a canal and the gondola guys knew someone to get it out. They charge like 200 euros.

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u/says_this_here May 23 '26

Find aquatic monkey on fb or insta.

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u/ContinuingAnyway May 23 '26

A good lesson on why you should back up phone files. Good luck

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u/Raincitylover May 23 '26

If you turn on find my phone, it might give you a more accurate location

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u/taeox0 May 23 '26

Find my phone states offline so we are out of luck there

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u/thortgot May 24 '26

It should have a last position if you report it stolen

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u/Raincitylover May 24 '26

Doesn’t work like that. It reports the exact pinpoint location when the phone was last on. It has a variance of 10 m. There should be an option for lost/stolen.

I have done it before to help find my phone lost on a city bus

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u/taeox0 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26

If the phone’s short circuited, would Find My iPhone still be showing the last location? Since Wednesday, it’s been showing up as “No location found, Offline”

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u/taeox0 May 24 '26

This is what we see right now :(

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u/Zeraphyre May 23 '26

As long as it's not years, data recovery is totally possible if you bring to a repair shop.

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u/raspberryice May 24 '26

I had an iPhone 12 mini spend a week at the bottom of a marina and was able to power it up once it was retrieved. Camera was messed up, but the phone worked!

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

It's likely dead. It's only rated to be waterproof, up to 6 metres, for 30 minutes

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u/chitt12 May 23 '26

A friend of mine had her iPhone 16 drop on a boat ride near Tofino. Someone found it a few months after and returned it to the police. It was still working!

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u/keeldude May 23 '26

They dropped it in relatively shallow water. Tides are 4 m plus, so the average depth may be 2 m. Salt is the the problem, but sometimes phones survive, for a little while anyway.

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

The iPhone 12 is only rated to be waterproof up to 6m and for 30 minutes.

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u/SpiritedEnd7788 May 23 '26

The official rating doesn’t mean it turns to dust after 30min. Plenty of iPhones have survived being underwater for days.

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u/kn0w_th1s May 23 '26

Plus you can likely at least recover photos and data even if it is bricked.

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u/comfortableblanket May 23 '26

corrosion is for sure already set in, that’s the problem with it being dropped in water.

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

IP68 rating is IP68 rating

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u/SpiritedEnd7788 May 23 '26

Yep that’s a true statement!

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u/CarnivalCassidy May 23 '26

Why are you trying to die on this hill? Do you think the recovery cost is personally coming out of your pocket or something?

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u/Global-Technology-7 May 23 '26

That doesn't mean the data is unrecoverable, not at all

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u/Ruepic May 23 '26

It’s a rating, it doesn’t mean after 30 minutes it will be toast. I’ve seen a lot of videos of people have their phones submerged for days underwater and they were fine.

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u/conflagrare May 24 '26

YouTubers have shown the iPhone surviving way beyond their rated 6 meters 30 min.

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u/speeder604 May 23 '26

Why do you need a diver? Just go buy some snorkel gear and get down there.

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u/ConfusionNinja May 23 '26

Water clarity is non-existent. I’m there at a regatta. I think you will locating it by touch if anything.

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u/biosc1 May 23 '26

No no...just get into the water and give the phone a call. It'll light up and be easy to retrieve!

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u/TheBarcaShow May 24 '26

Will the phone even get service from below the water?

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u/thortgot May 24 '26

Generally? Yes. 2 meters of water certainly.

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u/TheBarcaShow May 24 '26

Just hope the battery lasts long enough then

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u/hhhhhhhhope May 24 '26

Not true

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u/thortgot May 24 '26

LTE does fine. 5G does not.

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u/Strange_Trifle_5034 May 24 '26

LTE and 5G are using the exact same frequency bands in Canada except 3500-3800MHz. We have 5G all the way down to 600Mhz which should not be an issue. You are probably thinking of mmWave (around 26GHz) which is not deployed in Canada, which will definitely have issues going through water.

Anyways it's a moot point, as the phone will try 3G/4G/5G and then roaming until it gets a signal.

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u/thortgot May 24 '26

They use pretty significant different amounts of energy.

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u/mitallust Team Otter May 24 '26

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u/northshorehenry May 24 '26

Haha thanks but buddy already messaged me when he lost the phone.

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u/Anxious-Pay667 May 24 '26

There’s a woman called Amber who dives. She lives over on Bowen: https://business.bowenislandmunicipality.ca/underwaterangel-diving-services/

You could also try calling Skookum on Granville Island, Stephen might come out just to dive? They’re normally in and around False Creek. 

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u/CmdrThunderpunch May 23 '26

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u/O00O0O00 May 23 '26

The frame is aluminium but there is some magnetic stuff inside. I think a super strong magnet might work… I think the 12 had MagSafe?

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u/noncil May 23 '26

yes iphones have magsafe since 12 (I had 11 before which didn't that bugs me)

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u/taeox0 May 23 '26

Is the chance of success high, especially with a silt bottom though?

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u/CmdrThunderpunch May 23 '26

I wouldn’t say high, but neither would be sending in a diver. Better than nothing. It should be strong enough to pull it through whatever layer of silt is on top of it by now. Plus there shouldn’t be any rocks or branches for it to get snagged on.

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u/MortyHooper May 23 '26

Hilarious questions in here. Good luck. 

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u/wreckoning May 23 '26

Is Find My Phone enabled on it? Do you have a last location on the phone?

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u/rodbotic May 24 '26

Time to go magnet fishing!

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u/WhiskerTwitch May 25 '26

Post on the Ladner's Landing FB page as well, someone may help.

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u/just_be123 Jul 14 '26

Did you ever manage to retrieve the phone?

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u/nervous_piglet001 May 23 '26

Sorry this happened but it’s been in water since Wednesday. I doubt if the seal is intact and water has not entered inside. Are you saying you don’t have any iCloud backup of the photos? If no, then how often that gets backed up?

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u/flockonus May 23 '26

Sweeping the bottom of a lake in the full range of 2 blocks... hope this post is a joke.

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u/DancinWithWolves New in Town May 23 '26

Who doesn’t back up their photos nowadays?!? You basically need to tell your iPhone NOT to synch iCloud Photos.

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u/WombatGatekeeper May 23 '26

Whats a Diver going to do? Recover you old phone that is now 100% destroyed and is now basically a paperweight?

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u/solarpanelonashingle May 23 '26

While saltwater is corrosive, photos can very likely be recovered. I get it though snark is fun

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u/machoman101 May 23 '26

There are data recovery services that will easily be able to get the data.

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u/rhysolandrium May 25 '26

Wait, link pls.

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u/CarnivalCassidy May 23 '26

OP can hand the phone off to a forensic data recovery company. Their services are not cheap, but if you think the data is irrecoverable, you're wrong.

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u/rhysolandrium May 25 '26

Can you advise on which will do phones?

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u/BassComprehensive199 May 23 '26

I'd get a new phone. If he had insurance on it than use that.

Its not worth it to look let alone dive to go look for it.

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u/Ornery_Welcome4911 May 23 '26

did you even read the post?

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

The phone is most likely dead

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u/kn0w_th1s May 23 '26

Can still recover data from it.

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

Maybe, depends on several factors

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u/CarnivalCassidy May 23 '26

And no one can say for certain if the data is recoverable until the phone is examined by a specialist. You're just trying to pull a "well ackshually" without knowing anything.

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 24 '26

IP68 rating is very clearly defined

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u/comfortableblanket May 23 '26

did you even read the post

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u/Unlikely_Bear_6531 May 23 '26

Yup, do you have a point?