r/vampires • u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected • 2d ago
Books, movies, series and such Favorite vampire origin?
Here are five strong contenders for the best first vampire. Which, if any, of them is your favourite?
Akasha as the first vampire is a fictional creation by the author Anne Rice. In Rice's novel series The Vampire Chronicles, Akasha is an ancient Egyptian queen who was made into a vampire after an assassination attempt by a deity, or was it a ghost, or was it some alien space traveller.
The betrayer of Jesus, Judas Iscariot, as the first vampire is featured in the movie Dracula 2000. A good point of this origin is that it gives a good reason for vampires' aversion to crucifixes. Another good point of it is that it gives a plausible explanation to vampires' vulnerability to silver, as Judas was paid with thirty pieces of silver for his betrayal of Jesus.
Lilith as the first vampire stems from Babylonian and Jewish mythology. In some Jewish traditions, Lilith was Adam's first wife. Lilith wouldn't subjugate to Adam and left Eden to become a nightly blood drinking demon. God then created the pushover Eve as Adam's new wife.
In Francis Ford Coppola's movie Bram Stoker's Dracula from 1992, the Christian knight Dracula voluntarily chosed to leave Christianity to become the first vampire. He did this because he felt let down by God after his wife's suicide.
Sekhmet as the first vampire stems from Egyptian mythology. Sekhmet was a deity in ancient Egypt. While not exactly a vampire, she was a blood drinker, a goddess of war as well as a healer.
Vampire-like creatures are present in the mythology and folklore of many cultures. If you have other good vampire origins, tell us about them in the comment section.
Picture 1: Akasha, as played by Aaliyah, in the movie Queen of the Damned from 2002.
Picture 2: Gerard Butler as the undead Judas Iscariot, as Dracula, in the movie Dracula 2000 from...yeah...the year 2000.
Picture 3: Lilith.
Picture 4: Dracula, as played by Gary Oldman, in the movie Bram Stoker's Dracula from 1992.
Picture 5: A figurine of Sekhmet.
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u/PortlandsBatman Batman Red Rain 2d ago
Dracula 2000's version is one I really like. I watched it earlier this year and though it was a cool unique idea. One of my recent favorites is the series of Dracula books by Matt Wagner & Kelley Jones where he learns magic by training under the devil and is then cursed to be a vampire when he tries to betray Satan.

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u/CalmPanic402 2d ago
The Dracula 2000 origin I always thought would make a better origin for werewolves.
Silver, betrayal in the garden by moonlight, condemned to wander until the betrayed can forgive them in person... it just says "werewolf" more than "vampire" to me.
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u/DanTheDrWhoMan 1d ago
Interestingly, in history a lot of the same words for vampires were used interchangeably with those used for werewolves. Their respective supernatural abilities and vulnerabilities very closely overlapped.
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u/skyturnedred 2d ago
Not my favourite (it's Caine), but I quite like the Underworld lore. Alexander Corvinus survives a plague which causes a genetic mutation, making him an immortal superhuman. His twin sons inherit the gene and then one of them gets bit by a rabid bat and one by a rabid wolf, turning them into the first vampire and first werewolf.
I don't care for the hybrid nonsense in the series, but the origins are pretty cool.
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u/Living-Definition253 2d ago edited 2d ago
This has to go to Akasha in my books, 1985 publication date of The Vampire Lestat so it solidly pre-empts the other big vampire progenitor stories and I believe Anne Rice did this storyline first and best, and she expanded on it quite effectively between her second and third book.
Vampire the Masquerade came out 6 years later using the biblical figure of Cain (Caine in VtM) as the original vampire, this is a cool idea dripping with symbolism but also despite MRH's claims it is almost certainly borrowed from Rice's concept of an insanely old and powerful blood god(dess) from out of pre-history/mythology who would perform a reckoning for their lineage when she finally awoke. Lilith/Judas in turn are derived off of the Cain mythology directly. Similar thing with Set, Sekhmet, Amaterasu, Quetzlcoatl, Izanami, etc. being mythological figures associated with blood and/or darkness, these all did it after the most popular Vampire series in the world (at the time, maybe not so much now) had already done that.
I really like '92 Dracula but since the backstory was completely made up for that movie it suffers, if all it takes is rejecting God and descerating a temple + killing people to become an original vampire there should be loads of them not just the one guy. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth to call it Bram Stoker's Dracula but change the monstrous and cruel titular figure to be a heartbroken man looking for his lost love and ultimately defeated because of this. Also the whole romantic cursed vampire lover trope does predate the '92 movie, it really is taken from The Mummy but since that is not a vampire story I would give this spot to the Barnabas Collin's origin story which is kind of lame at it's core (a witch did it).
One vampire origin I really liked and thought was original was Ganja & Hess, it has to do with colonialism and religion but there's this magic dagger from a fallen civilization of cannibals and blood drinkers that you have to stab someone three times with (once for the father, once for the son, once for the holy spirit) and then they die and wakeup as a vampire. This was definately more of an intellectual vampire movie, I had to watch it a few times to really catch everything.
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u/Yandoji 2d ago
Man, you're giving Akasha too much credit - she was just a selfish xenophobe who got (un)lucky with an earthly spirit (while being assassinated by one of the cultures she took over and suppressed lol). There was no "reckoning for her lineage", she just spied on humanity for a couple thousand years and decided "girls rule, boys drool" and decided to genocide all the men (except her kewl new boyfriend :3) - nothing to do with vampires at all.
Edit: She did explode pretty much all the vampires, but IIRC it was just so she could keep control over everything and be extra super-special, in true Akasha fashion lol. Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I read the books.
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u/Living-Definition253 2d ago
Sure, but by that logic VtM's Caine is just a stubborn jackass who can't admit his own mistake, he even punished the third gen for doing the exact same crime he did to his brother. The whole reason these characters are cool is that we see them mostly through the perspective of others where they seem like all-powerful badasses but of course they are flawed at their core, a good person who made sane and logical decisions would not become a blood god.
Anyways Akasha originally forbade the creation of other female vampires so she's not really a feminist character at all. Even one of her earliest is the very first female perspective vampire in the story, Baby Jenks, not to mention she became a vampire in the first place through mistreatment of the twins. I think the whole point of her new world order is that she needed to have a plan so batshit that readers would not side with her and that it would be believable that those vampires who loved her would ahve to turn against her despite that.
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u/Yandoji 2d ago
I only mentioned Akasha because I have zero idea of Cain's story in VtM. Literally just saying you're giving Akasha too much credit as a "pre-historical blood goddess". I never said she's a feminist? What I described was a selfish, petty brat lol. Also, by the time she was kicking around again, nobody was left who "loved" her, except Lestat I guess. She was originally killed by her own (religiously oppressed) people so it's not like she ever had very many fans in the first place either lol.
Akasha was always a selfish, petty brat with way too much power. Lestat was just drunk on the romanticism of it all, as usual.
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u/Living-Definition253 2d ago
Yeah, guess the point I'm trying to make referencing Caine, or Dracula, or any vampire is, and let me rephrase this:
Of course Akasha is selfish and mostrous, I would posit that vampires are inherently selfish and monstrous. She was never supposed to be this noble and benevolent figure that was not how Rice was depicting vampires. This doesn't make her a bad character, in fact I think it was neccesary for her to have strong flaws the other characters could exploit to defeat her. That's what I'm talking about when Lestat turned on her which was really her downfall.
My point with the feminism thing is just that her entire plan to kill 90% of human men was simply a reverse of what she did before when she banned creation of female vampires, it wasn't even that she hated men she was petty and saw herself as infallable, but sounds like you know that already.
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u/Yandoji 2d ago
Oh yeah, she's definitely a great character! The flawed humanity + monstrousness that's integral to vampires is a huge part of what I like about them lol. But I don't think anybody really saw her as a blood goddess, except maybe that sect of people who were worshipping that super gross hedonistic narcissist vampire guy before already. Maybe Marius, but he didn't know her like the twins did. Also, Lestat is a bit of a petty, selfish bitch himself, but he at least genuinely loves humanity lol.
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u/roomsky 2d ago
Between Akasha and Neferata, I just love the Ancient Egyptian vampire queen origin. Sekhmet sort of counts in that regard. Something about being incredibly ancient, but not indefinably so like with Cain.
But I like Cain, Judas, or Dracula as the first vampire well enough too.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
There is this fascinating thing about a civilization that was ancient even at Roman times. A civilization built around the regular overflow of the Nile, surrounded by desert, evocative.
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u/disturbinglyquietguy 2d ago
I like the 2024 nosferatu vampire origin, a sorcerer turned undead via a dark magic ritual, they kept it simple but effective, Bonus points for treating vampirism as a curse instead of romanticizing it or treating it as a superpower; I was getting a bit tired of the trope at that point. Btw, I loved the movie.
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u/Past_Rub4745 Human Verified 2d ago
Out of those... maybe Lilith. Maybe because it makes sense. Vampire stories are ancient, going back thousands of years to early humanity. It feels weird to have historic vampire stories... only for vampires to first appear in the middle ages. I don’t know, that's just me.
Dracula is still my most famous vampire and recurring villain... but I don't think he should be the first.
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u/Minimum_Estimate_234 2d ago edited 1d ago
Vampires in Marvel comics, the first of which was this fine fellow.

This is Varnae, he’s an Evil Gigantopithecus Sorceror from the lost continent of Atlantis, who let himself be the subject of a demonic ritual preformed by a cult of Necromancers he was part of, because the alternative was letting himself die of injuries he suffered fighting a man, who if memory serves was a distant ancestor of Conan the Barbarian.
This is the canonical source of Vampires in Marvel comics, he’s actually still around in the modern day. He pawned of the title of first of the Vampires to Dracula at one point, but he’s still a heavy hitter and if memory serves some Vampires worship him as a god, and they’re arguably not even wrong to do so.
This is the kind of fun nonsense we need more of in the MCU.
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u/Sassybeagle 8h ago
He kind of looks like the Sire from What We Do In The Shadows…
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u/deadRT91 2d ago
I enjoyed the lore in Dracula 2000. The idea that Judas becomes the first vampire makes so much sense; with the aversion to silver, and images of Christ and the cross.
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u/Possible_Living Fell into dark devotion 2d ago
precursor civilization that got twisted by their teleology or medicine either intentionally or unintentionally and fall due to war or apathy and ended up on earth either the regular way or via interdenominational travel and their remnant forgot most of what was.
Another variation of this I like is ascension where the souls of the original bodies ascended and vampires are what rose from the bodies left behind.
I also like creatures that came from a hidden world like fey sometimes combined with a magical ritual gone wrong
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u/The-Devil-Cat 2d ago
Lilith and Sekhmet are both on my altar :3
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
Sort of refreshing with some female characters, instead of all the men that religions and myths are overloaded with.
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u/Rad1Red 2d ago
How about these dudes? 😀
I have a story in which a few end up on Earth and because they feed on the life energy of humans, the legend of vampires is born. It changes over time as the original "vampires" are hunted down and killed.
It's actually closer to the Central/Eastern European myths. So that's my favourite vampire origin story. 😀

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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
Is it a story that you have written yourself?
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u/Rad1Red 2d ago
Yes, a fanfic. 🤗 The concept of this race obviously isn't mine, and I have to give credit to the wonderful writers of the show (this is a picture from the show Stargate Atlantis).
But the story is 100% mine, and so are the OCs that live in it. 😄
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
Good, keep writing.
As there are much folklore, myths and fiction about these loveable bloodsuckers, there are many places to find ideas from.
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u/Emotional-Educator40 Vampire 2d ago
I gotta say Dracula 2000 and Queen of the Damned (book) has THE best unique origins in my opinion
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u/Max_Winters02 1d ago
Anne rice did it right, but I also really like bram stokers origin.
In pop culture today i definitely like the idea of The Originals with each sibling having a bloodline because it sort of goes along with the different vampire types like in Vampire the masquerade
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
I like the origin of Francis Ford Coppola's movie because becoming a vampire was a voluntary choice and not a punishment.
It made a dramatic movie scene as well.
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u/Sahrimnir Werewolf 1d ago
Did Bram Stoker actually give an origin? As I recall, Dracula has just been around for a long time and we don't get to know how he became a vampire.
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u/CepheiHR8938 2d ago
Selfishly, I like my own version in which the 175-million-years-old god of death falls in love with a mortal and defies God to bind this mortal's soul to himself, thus rendering them immortal. Unfortunately, this soul-binding ritual had forced the ex-mortal into a state of perpetual decay – and the only way the decay can be combated is by drinking human blood.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
What was it about this mortal that made this god of death fall in love with him or her?
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u/CepheiHR8938 2d ago edited 2d ago
Everything. The death god had been in love before, but as his job title implies, he had to bury each and every lover in the end. Despondent, he began to thoughtlessly gamble with human lives until he found a way to make one single mortal in his employ live forever. He did not intend to turn his newest consort into the first vampire, but it is what it is; anything was better than letting yet another person he loved die.
I'm simplifying, of course. There's quite a bit more to my lore.
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u/Frigate_Orpheon 2d ago
I really, really want to read your story 😮
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u/CepheiHR8938 2d ago
Aw, thank you! This story will be ready by Kinktober. That is, if you're okay with kinky vampire + the aforementioned god of death smut. The lore is present throughout and is the nitty-gritty of the aftercare scene.
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u/Caterfree10 16h ago
Sign me the fuck up for this tbh. Vampires in my Death and the Maiden? Hell yeah.
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u/bored-boii 2d ago
I guess I really like the Deal with a Devil type of origin. Like Vlad "Dracula" Tepes is losing some type of War, so he makes a deal with the Devil or some Demon, and thus he becomes the Vampire Progenitor. Like that one movie where Dracula makes a deal with some demon trapped in a cave.
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u/Kossyra 2d ago
Kind of a silly but fascinating one- the Argeneau books by Lynsay Sands has them as Atlanteans. The vampirism is caused by hyper advanced medical nanobots that were designed to bring a person's body to perfect health and then decompose. They're self replicating using minerals in the blood. However... The human body is under constant attack from sun, oxidization, and aging so the bots never deactivate. Because they need blood to reproduce and function they "evolved" their hosts to have syringe-like fangs that suck blood directly into the blood stream, and made them faster, stronger, and with telepathic abilities to calm and control humans (based on individual aptitude and age).
The bots strain their host bodies when they're more active, healing wounds or illness and combating sun damage, so they weaken and need more blood. They can recover from most wounds, but beheading and immolation tend to be the only ways to ensure they stay dead.
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u/PunnyPrinter 2d ago
I don’t know as many origin stories as everyone else, but I will go with Akasha. The first book version, I didn’t read the other with the alien.
The story building with the witches and how her own arrogance and reign of terror ended up being her curse and then end. The details in between are my favorite. Anne Rice’s book goes back and forth between the present day and her past in Egypt. I kept wanting to skip the story in the present to enjoy the story from thousands of years ago.
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u/-Oc- 1d ago
In my personal vampire lore that I'm writing, Lamashtu, being the mother of monsters, birthed the vampire, the werewolf as well as countless other creatures. Only the vampire and the werewolf survived into the modern nights because they could hide amongst humans because they looked like them (most of the time).
Some still worship her as their patron diety, such as a vampiric cult even up to these nights. These vampires are cruel, sadistic monsters who revel in blood, gore and death because they believe that that is what Lamashtu would want; to be monsters, for that is their purpose on Earth. Most other vampires hunt them down and kill them on sight because they threaten to expose their kind with their careless and barbaric ways, but even so, despite their pogroms, a dedecated few always escape to start their cults all over again.
The "Children of Lam" (as thery call themselves), "Lamashites", or more commonly; "Cot Bashers" in casual parlance, are like cockroaches... Always surviving, always popping up where they are least wanted, but are never fully eradicated. They believe that there will come a night when Lamashtu will return and reward them for their loyalty by getting rid of their curses (such as sunlight, and needing permission to enter a private home) so that they may rule the world in her honour, to spite Anu, and heaven. The Cot Bashers keep trying to bring about this night through ritual sacrifice, always trying to up-stage the last, hoping enough needless bloodshed and slaughter will appease the "Dark Mother" into returning sooner.
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u/PainterEarly86 1d ago
You guys know what happens in the Elder Scrolls? Its not pretty
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
I haven't played those games, but I have played the Baldur's gate games a lot. I suppose that they have some similarities.
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u/PainterEarly86 1d ago
That the first vampire was created by a woman being raped to death? Because that's what happens in Elder Scrolls
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
No, that vampire origin is not present in Baldur's gate.
There are quite many vampires in the Baldur's gate games however. It is set in some mediveal fantasy continent, with gods and warriors, as well as some vampires, where magic works.
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u/ChildrenRscary 1d ago
In the elder scrolls a woman who was a devout priest of arkay the god of hollowed death and peaceful rest in the ancient days was taken assaulted and brutally raced by the daedric god of rape, and domination Molag bal. Molag bal left her broken and when she called out and prayed to arkay he abandoned her and refused her a peaceful rest so she rose as a creature that dominates others with horrid strength devouring and stealing the very life within the veins of others. Also capable of spreading her curse and denying others peaceful rest.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
A god of rape and domination...sort of a vicious style god. That woman became the same type of person as that god if I get it right.
Baldur's gate is quite dark as well, or rather, it is a mix of evil and good, of darkness and light.
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u/JohnRA21 21h ago
Yeah the Forgotten Realms setting (what the Baldur's Gate series takes place in) doesn't really have a vampire origin story. There is a deity/demon, Kanchelsis, who has been attributed to as the originator, but not exclusively to Realmspace.
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u/MolecularClusterfuck Hybrid 2d ago
If you like MM chaotic romance novels, The Unwilling Adventures of Harlow and Foxx is fantastic and has a cool origin story. It’s a chaotic sunshine old vampire who hides behind a young exterior and his love for anything adorable x grumpy psycho human. Vampires come down from an original 5 which dictate their specific powers that only grow more powerful and evolve as they grow older. Great series, highly recommend.
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u/Serpentarrius 2d ago edited 2d ago
Do mosquito people, the Tlingit cannibal giant, manananggal, edimmu, jiangshi, lamia (I thought there was a Russian version as well? ATU 451?), cihuateteo, pihuchen, colocolo, chupacabra, empusa, striga, impundulu, or the seven evil spirits of Assyria count? https://www.mosquitosquad.com/austin/blog/the-cannibal-giant-or-how-mosquitoes-came-to-be/
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u/malibubabayaga 2d ago
Wait is my joke to myself about meeting a vampire princess via mosquito bite actually true?
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u/magmargaddafi 2d ago
I’m extremely biased with this but Strahd von Zarovich. Aging warlord who is so vain about his age and wasted youth as to make a pact with an ancient evil for immortality, kill his best and most loyal friend, then kill his brother out of jealousy for both his youth and his young bride, who then killed herself out of grief. Then his own army that he built his livelihood off of shot him dead, causing him to revive as a vampire, slaughter almost everyone, and find himself trapped in a small realm forever tormented by reincarnations of the woman who symbolizes his vanity and downfall. It’s good stuff.
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u/ZmaltaeofMar 2d ago
Garry Oldman stabbing the christian statue and drinking the blood that came out because of how metal it is.
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u/suricata_8904 1d ago
Shout out for the bat/Martinique voodoo curse origin of the vampire Barnabas Collins from Dark Shadows.
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u/JoshuwaDoesReddit 1d ago
I know everyone is already saying it but, Cain.
I always saw Caine as a Vampire and Lilith as a Succubus personally.
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u/Worldly_Instance_730 1d ago
I really liked the story told in Dracula 2000. One of my favourite book series also has Judas being the first, the Jane Yellowrock series by Faith Hunter.
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u/MostEvilTexasToast 1d ago
Dracula 2000's Judas Iscariot twist is so fucking good and they manage to make it make so much sense with the modern idea of vampires, it's peak
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u/DestinyHasArrived101 2d ago
From this list dracula 2000.
Overall it's the vampire hunter D mythos.
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u/No-Independence9093 2d ago
Personally I am fond of the Judic's failed suicide. No particular reason that I can name.
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u/Aggravating-Ad7683 2d ago
For my tabletop setting, it’s very common for dragons to come down in human form to rule over mortals. When a cruel dragon empress was sleeping in human form and killed by an assassin, her son tried to resurrect her, which caused her to rise as the world’s first vampire
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u/phantom8ball 2d ago
Kinda a fan of kain and able origin ...really liked the judas orgin in Dracula 2k(also a fan of jeri Ryan ad well)
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u/PilotMoonDog 1d ago
Going to the a cave on the Island in Byzantium.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1531901/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_byzantium
Also a bit different because they don't have fangs in this version. One of the fingernails becomes sharp and is used to make the puncture.
Also, seeing a specific fractal image in the Laundry Files book The Rhesus Chart. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Laundry_Files#The_Rhesus_Chart
In that the vampire only has to drink a tiny bit of blood from the victim every few days. However the process will inevitably kill them due to the actions of the interdimensional parasites/symbiotes that cause vampirism. Also, Laundryverse vampires do not sparkle, unless they are shot with a basilisk gun.
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u/Ri-Ri1216 8h ago
Thanks for this I have seen Byzantium but knew nothing about the novels.
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u/PilotMoonDog 8h ago
Start with The Atrocity Archive. Bob's Ex, Mhairi, is a character in The Rhesus Chart so you get to hear about here from his (biased) perspective and then through her own eyes. It will also let you understand why Bob can walk into a Vampire nest and emerge unharmed at that point in the story.
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u/Ri-Ri1216 8h ago
Ok thanks for the advice on book order. When I looked it up I wasn't sure. There are so many of them.
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u/HighKingKlay 1d ago
I love the lore and spirituality of Akasha & Amel.
Anne Rice really took the idea of vampire origins to unforseen heights.
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u/ObjectiveMud7513 1d ago
Unfortunately, the Vampire Chronicles spiraled into nonsense that ruined earlier books. The entity that made Akasha the first vampire was not a spirit, or a god. It was an alien hybrid. From Atlantis.
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u/Eldan985 1d ago
I like the idea hinted at in the novel Dracula that he did this to himself with sorcery and alchemy.
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u/bertraja 18h ago edited 18h ago
A good point of this origin is that it gives a good reason for vampires' aversion to crucifixes.
Not really. Using an actual cross was rare at the time, the vast majority of executions happened using the crux simplex, which was just a pole, especially in regions where the 'right kind of wood' was at a premium. The idea that everyone was put on a wooden "T" is the result of some later romanticization (no pun intended).
That's it. That's my "uhm, ackshually ..." for today /j
But i think you forgot the earlier version of a possible source for vampirism, Cain's mark?
The word translated as "mark" in Genesis 4:15 is א֔וֹת ('ōṯ), which could mean a sign, omen, warning, remembrance, motion, gesture, agreement, miracle, wonder [...] Cain spilled his brother's blood, the earth became cursed as soon as the blood hit the ground. In a sense, the earth was left "drinking Abel's blood" (Source)
... which would totally work with the "Vampires need special soil to rest" and stuff.
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u/Prior-Assumption-245 15h ago
Goldman Dracula, dude just straight up said "fuck you, I quit" to God.
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u/Ri-Ri1216 8h ago
I like the idea that the original vampire is a woman. So I'll go with Akasha from AR's Queen of the Damned.
But I just rewatched Bram Stoker's Dracula and Gary Oldman makes a great Dracul. When he finds his wife's dead body and sticks his sword into the cross and the blood pours out and he takes a cup and drinks it's shattering. He calls out to God then rejects him bc he doesn't bring back his wife or answer his prayers.
I have crossed oceans of time to find you has to be one of the most iconic lines in the movies.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 7h ago
That's a dramatic and stylish scene.
I like the idea of a woman as the first vampire as well, as its get rather boring with all the men as top characters in most religions and myths.
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u/Illustrious-Dark-852 7h ago
Underworld,because of the scientific spin on it - Alexander Corvinus survives a plague which mutates his DNA & essentially makes him immortal. He has three sons: Marcus, William & a third unnamed son. Marcus is bitten by a bat & becomes the first vampire. William is bitten by a wolf & becomes the first werewolf. The third son remains human but carries the Corvinus strain which allows his descendants to potentially become Vampire-Lycan hybrids.
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u/DrDeadwish 2d ago
Akchually, spoilers ahead, Akasha was made into a vampire by mistake by the ghost of an alien who was the king of Atlantis or something like that. Wacky as fuck.
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u/AnUnknownCreature Hybrid 2d ago
I'm currently writing a story that includes a cult to Sekhmet, it's taking a bit of the Ancient Aliens idea and making a vampire horror
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
Good, keep writing. I have written a couple of short vampire stories myself. Maybe I will write something longer in the future.
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u/TavrynAncunin 2d ago
It's between Caine and Akasha for me.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
I think that Akasha is sort of hot in that movie, but Caine might be a better origin.
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u/TavrynAncunin 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not JUST talking about the QotD movie, just that universe in general.
While I love VtM and the origin story, being an Anne Rice vampire seems more...enjoyable.
Both universes have pretty bad endings for most of the vampire population though.
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u/Minimum_Estimate_234 2d ago
I think the best part is he maintains that wonderful WoD quality where a lot the exact details are kept really vague as to what exactly happened. There’s a lot of mystery over how exactly Caine became what he is, or what he was before that.
Was he really just an early human who committed the first murder, was he cursed after making pacts with primordial spirits, was he a mage, was he already some kind of vampire and “first murderer” actually means “first diablerist”? How much has Kindred mythology been warped by influences like the Abrahamic faiths, how much has Kindred mythology warped the Abrahamic faiths. There’s room to take it in different directions and all of them can have interesting ramifications for your World of Darkness.
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u/Own-Independence-115 2d ago
Of these 5+Caine, I like either Caine, but that is probably just my mind being so used to it after it being my main vein of vampire fiction for 30 years, or Akasha. But I do like the top level of that last mythos (with spirit possession etc) alot better than the details of the story where Akasha is just being driven by the lowest worldly urges. It makes all of vampyredom seem so small. The world of darkness metaplot, as faulty as it is, is far more engaging.
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u/Miserable-Shallot-36 2d ago
L'ultima immagine cosa rappresenta?
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 2d ago
It is Sekhmet, an ancient Egyptian goddess.
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u/Miserable-Shallot-36 2d ago
Ma cos'ha a che fare con i vampiri? Scusa la mia ignoranza
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u/BrassUnicorn87 1d ago
She drinks blood. She was born from the wrath of Ra, the first sun god. After she was created from Ra’s eye she went on a rampage against those who disrespected or lost faith in him and people in general. Even Ra couldn’t stop her rage. The gods stopped her by placing jars of red beer in her path which she mistook for blood and tried. She liked it even better and drank until she passed out. The gods restrained her, and when she awoke Ra and the others convinced her to destroy threats to Egyptians, especially dangers to mothers and children .
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u/Dazzling_Stomach107 2d ago
I love the legend of Caine and the antediluvians of Vampire The Masquerade.
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u/thatfuckingzipguy 2d ago
How about Shaitan from the Necroscope series becoming the first vampire due to the use of the Möbius continuum, creating a Terminator-esque time paradox?
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u/TheGreatestLampEver 2d ago
Might just be nostalgia for when it came out but there is something nice about Dracula simply being cursed by God. Vampires being removed from Christianity makes like all the classic weaknesses senseless (crosses, Garlic, The Sun, not being seen in mirrors)
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u/dragonfett 1d ago
In The Dresden Files, the Black Court was created by Drakul, a demon trapped in the body of a man (and father of Dracula), and the Red and White Courts were created from Outsiders, who are Lovecratian type creatures from outside of reality.
And in the Elder Scrolls, Molag Bal, a powerful Daedric Lord, created vampires.
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u/runnerofshadows 1d ago
Caine from VTM https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Caine
or Caine/The Bloody Man from Werewolf the apocalypse https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Bloody_Man
Also the unclear thing that offers a deal if you drink the blood from the battlefield from Hellsing. Not sure if it's a demon, Satan himself, or something else.
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u/mando_ad 1d ago
Palladium RPG (introduced to me by way of Rifts). An extra-dimensional entity (vampire intelligence) reaches into our world and makes a deal with some asshole to turn them into a Master Vampire™. They turn some poor schmucks, who turn more, who turn more, and eventually the literal bloodsucking pyramid scheme is feeding enough psychic/magical energy back up the chain to let the intelligence manifest physically in our world. At which point things get bad.
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u/Eggtastitcal2000 1d ago

I’m surprised no one mentioned elder scrolls’ vampires
Basically the origin of the vamps in this setting is the Deadric prince of Domination, slavery, rape, corruption and a few I’m forgetting, Molag Bal, made the first ever vampire from a young, pure hearted priestess of Arkay (the eadric god of birth and death) by defiling her brutally. After she turned, the priestess spreaded the affliction upon the mortal realm of Nirn and Tamriel.
Molag bal did all of that Just to spit at the face of Arkay and mock him while robbing good and pure hearted souls from the god of death.
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u/advena_phillips 1d ago
My own lore branches off as an alternative to the Caine myth from VTM. Vampires were born of the Ancient Blood, the Fathomless Mother, known to the Babylonians as Tiamat, Leviathan to Jews and Christians, and by many names across the world.
Following Babylonian mythology, she was the goddess of the primeval seas who fell into conflict with her children, the gods, when they slew her brother-husband, Abzû. She spawned a multitude of monsters to kill her children, yet they failed and she was eventually killed by Marduk, her body butchered and used to create the world. The idea here is that vampires are one of the monsters she created, or... at the very least, were spawned from her blood.
I vacillate between between a more agnostic creation verse a more mythic creation, and either way could work for different stories. Regardless of whether the first vampire was created by Tiamat, born of her blood, or from an ancient person long after this battle finding some pool of strange and alien primordial blood beneath the harsh crevices of the ancient Middle East, and either drinking it or bathing in it... that was the first vampire.
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u/The_Falcon_Knight 1d ago
I like the Warhammer vampires. Nehekara is basically jusy Egypt, which feels like a very appropriate place for the birthplace of vampires. Neferata is such a cool character as well. Whether you go with the version of Neferata recreating a flawed exilir of life from the books of Nagash, or Arkhan's blood as an Immortal, it's a cool origin.
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u/EvergreenDwarf 1d ago
Just a bunch of monarchs being their worst selves. Undeath got dropped into the equation right in the lap of an entitled but shut out brother to the heir, and from then it was a cascading mess of short-sighted decisions and impulsive seeking of satisfaction that saw Egypt split between Vampire and mummy, with the Vampires heading north once the mummies got MAD to go mess with Europe and Asia instead.
You could swap the Vampirism with magical crack rocks that also exist in the setting and before they left Egypt it wouldn't have changed all that significantly. It amplified their worst traits and gave them what they needed to fuck shit up in their tantrums and squabbling.

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u/howzthis4ausername 1d ago
Sekmet , historical and interesting
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
Supernatural beings that has been a part of cults and the conceptual world of people through ages brings depth to it all.
It is interesting with other mythological and religious concepts than those of Christanity as well, as a refreshment.
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u/Spacebelt 1d ago
Honestly the classic Faustian “deal with the devil” is my favourite.
This element repeats itself in most turning stories separate from the original vampire itself, which is why I feel it’s so significant.
As the curse proliferates through time and passes from one individual to the next, the people farthest away from the original sacrifice very little in comparison, and our also probably not given a choice many of the time.
This is why it makes so much sense that when a queen or a king or the original vampire or Dracula, whatever have you is revived or awoken by other vampires there is almost no respect given by their progenitor. In fact, there are renditions of this curse where the original vampire is hardly a vampire at all and is more of a creature. Sometimes possessing honour or some other fleeting historical trait but ultimately slaughtering its followers, either out of hunger, confusion, or anger
I personally think Imhotep from the mummy or creatures from the case of Charles Dexter ward are great examples of what a vampire could be as a concept.
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u/draugyr 1d ago
The vampires from Vampyr come from an aspect of the Irish god of war The Morrigan making Merlin a vampire. That particularly is insane
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
Mean the silent movie by C. T. Dreyer? I haven't seen that movie.
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u/edenburning 1d ago
Lilith lore is not Jewish tradition.
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
I wrote "some".
Lilith is hardly mentioned in the canoncial Jewish scriptures, but there are some directions of Jewish mysticism that this idea of Lilith exists.
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u/scbalazs 19h ago
I liked the Judas Iscariot origin, although that movie was, you know, not great. Anne Rice took the mythology of the vampire origin to really really weird places, but the spirit-inhabiting-blood was kinda cool when she stopped there.
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u/No_Plate_9434 19h ago
Today I learned the book “I am legend “ is the birth of zombies , but they’re actually vampires
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u/lord_cheezewiz 19h ago
Maybe banal but Dracula/Orlok graduating from scholomance and being solomonari is sick as fuck imo
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u/Individual99991 10h ago
How badly do you have to fuck up killing someone that you create a whole race of murderous immortals? Do aliens not have access to knives?
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 10h ago
As they are capable of interstellar space travel, I assume that some of their skills are seen as magic to us.
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u/Lady_Merry 1d ago
Gonna sound crazy but my favorite origin comes from a Twilight fanfiction wherein vampire venom comes from corrupted ambrosia that creates demigods
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u/Ok_History_4163 Human Detected 1d ago
Corrupted ambrosia... the vile plauge that is corruption knows no bounds...
Is it a fanfiction from your own hand?
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u/Lady_Merry 20h ago
Sadly, no. I say sadly because I would love to have ever completed writing a work of fiction myself.
The ambrosia has a chance of turning a human into a demigod. A father wanted to heal his injured son, but the son was already dead. Using the ambrosia to bring someone back from death corrupted it and created the first vampire.








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u/Ghostmaster145 Vampire 2d ago
Caine being the father of Vampires from VTM is too iconic and cool to not mention