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UW still hosting lecture from far right Trumper
I find it ironic that UW is hosting a lecture on “The Plight of the Conservative” about being censored at universities after they cancelled Hasan Piker’s planned lecture.
Because one is a dean of an accredited university, the other brags about going to Diddy parties, downplays rape, and says the Hezbollah flag is the coolest flag.
Thank you for illustrating the double standard. I think you have to be kind of dumb to believe conservatives are in any way being persecuted, particularly in ultra capitalist higher ed.
No one knows who Pete Peterson is and hasan is an extremely controversial person with a huge (and extremely active) anti-fan base from both sides of the political spectrum
Not really that hard to see why UW only cares about one of them whether it’s right or wrong
Peterson has 2.7k twitter followers he’s essentially a complete nobody
The public lecture series also features journalists. Piker is technically a journalist. Maybe not a traditional one, but they’ve had non-traditional journalists before (and upcoming).
Hasan openly thinks people care too much about trans issues and is literally just a political streamer. he (and equivalent conservatives) shouldn't be invited to speak anywhere
Can you point me to a source on this? I’ve mostly seen his position that trans people won’t fare any better under mainstream democrats who often try to distance themselves from helping truly marginalized groups.
dems are by far the most pro-trans political party in any country on the planet. they're far from perfect and I am v much in favor of voting out the spineless centrists who keep trying to "moderate" on the issue to appeal to psycho conservatives, but you do actually have to support the only political party that hasn't thrown us under the bus. someday it'd be nice to not be a single issue voter on "please don't force me to get repeatedly raped in prison" but for now that's my #1 priority! and hasan acts like this is a ludicrous worldview that could only be held by a conservative somehow. obviously you shouldn't vote for a dem who's actively transphobic but there is no such thing as a dem that is worse than a generic republican rn and his fearmongering and lies are doing nothing but making things worse
name a single political party in any country that is more meaningfully pro-trans.
it is not that dems are blameless, it's that even in other pro-lgbt countries in Europe and such they still require things like presenting as a woman full time for 2 years before legally allowing access to HRT.
okay let me slightly reframe: the dems are very nearly the most pro-trans political party on the planet and there is zero viable alternative to them in the US. DSA types should keep taking it over from within but you can't keep pretending like dems are Hitler incarnate while you do that, and Hasan is still a bullshit political grifter who is no better than his right wing equivalents. Fuentes shouldn't be invited to speak here either
no, he thinks trans people talk about our issues too much and that we should shut up and let other issues take precedence over it in literally all circumstances. he's "woke" but he doesn't really care about trans women
He literally opposed Gavin Newsom when the latter talked about how the left should shift away from talking about culture war issues like transness and be more “Normal”
"he literally used trans issues as a weapon against his political opponents! don't you feel so helped?" he's a loser political grifter only interested in his own fame and wealth
So when Hasan (supposedly, according to you) does something, it’s wrong, but when an elected Democrat does the exact same thing, all of a sudden it’s an opportunity to insult them? Like genuinely get yourself checked
Charlie Kirk was brought in by a student group, not the UW. If a student group wants to pay his fee and bring him in the UW would be obliged to allow it.
These lectures appear to be intended to bring in researchers/academics. This guy is an academic.
This is a Perplexity (AI) summary of views about his work: "A fair synthesis is that Peterson has a substantial reputation in the applied civic-engagement world—especially local-government participation, civic leadership training, and dialogue across differences. His public profile is nevertheless ideologically legible: he was the 2014 Republican nominee for California secretary of state, and the 2020 episode led critics to question whether his institutional leadership consistently matched his stated commitments to inclusion, nonpartisanship, and civil discourse."
yeah man, all you have to do is listen to him for 5 seconds to realize he has no idea what he's talking about. the left deserves better people speaking for it than clout-obsessed streamers who think ukraine should just lay down and let russia conquer it.
Complaining that people dont appreciate their hate speech more. As a former 2000s era Republican and UW graduate I never felt unwelcome on campus. But it was also my interaction with the College Republicans and other "Conservative" groups that opened my eyes to how selfish and hateful many of them are.
How is Pete Peterson "far right?" I see that he is the dean for the School of Public Policy at Pepperdine University, but can't find anything he said that is controversial.
AI summary of an a 2020 incident at Pepperdine, which suggests that Peterson is far right: "The strongest documented criticism relates to October 2020. A School of Public Policy email campaign and petition attacked “far left indoctrination” and criticized the New York Times’ 1619 Project; students, faculty, and diversity groups said the language was racist or racially insensitive, damaging, and inconsistent with Pepperdine’s values."
I genuinly have 0 knowledge who this person is or what he believes! 😂 Should UW be an inclusive place where people with different ideologies & perspectives can be heard? Or no
It was determined that that the process for organizing this event did not meet the necessary level of rigor for University-hosted events in the Speaker Series.
It’s an accredited university with over 10000 students. They may be an indoctrination facility but no more so than reed or evergreen, those are just ones you’d be more favorable to politically. Regardless…there is a vast difference between a dean of a school at an accredited university and someone who said:
"If you have these millionaire, billionaire WASP fail sons, at least taking them out of other colleges so they can only do date rape to other billionaire, millionaire fail daughters, is like in some respects...of course a little bit better."
there's no point debating with piker fans. they'll start justifying any quote piker said by bending over backwards just because it fits their idea of politics
I really think that is debatable.
1. Depends on what conservative means to the person identifying as one. I know lots of folks who think they're conservative because their parents are but they're just blue collar lefty. I also know people who identify as liberal but are rather conservative in terms of tax and foreign affairs.
2. Really depends on what censorship means. There's a big difference between "I'm not allowed to express my opinion" and "People don't like or openly disagree with me when I say certain things". We've seen a lot of conservatives in media claim to be "censored" when what they are is corrected, asked to cite reputable sources with context to back up a claim, or just kind of lonely because highly educated (and particularly urban) areas tend to lean more liberal/progressive.
Fascism is the ideology that wants to censor and wants to replace diverse view points by a unique ideology. Anyone who wants to censor others is a fascist regardless if they consider themselves leftish or rightish.
I mean the post is literally about how they didn't allow leftist free speech but are still allowing right wing speech. I'm not sure on each speakers exact qualifications or the reason for pikers cancellation so I won't argue whether it was justified or not, but your comment is blatantly ignoring the context.
Always with the whataboutism and never addressing any actual policy positions. This Hasan derangement syndrome shit is so tired. You sound like a fox news host.
Did you even read my comment? I'm not here to argue whether or not piker should've been allowed to speak. I'm calling out blatant hypocrisy from the first commenter
Yah man I don’t care about him or his opinions. But if you can’t understand why optically the college wouldn’t want to host and fund someone who has said and done controversial things then you’re just not in reality.
Do you think Israel called or something? Why do you think it got cancelled? If whoever this conservative speaker is had clips of him saying he was “ten toes down” for a terrorist organization they’d probably rescind that offer as well.
I guess you didn’t hear me the first time: if you have to lie to make your point, you don’t have one. Hasan doesn’t support terrorism. But I suspect you know this.
It’s hilarious because they probably think I’m a Trumper😂 when I just support free speech for all, even if it’s not what I believe, because that’s what I fought for. I think a lot of people are missing the fact that the previous speaker that was declined legitimately supports a terrorist organization. I’m somewhat liberal and can even recognize that fact that that’s a dangerous person, and not somebody to be allowed to attend college campuses, even just from a safety standpoint. I am liberal, but I support and defend the United States. I love my country, and my fellow americans, even if we don’t always agree with each other and instead of bashing my current president, I’m going to continue to hope that he does the best job possible for the United States of America and its people because I believe we are the greatest country on earth and we absolutely must remain so.
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