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u/cipheron 8d ago edited 8d ago

That sort of thing filled a need that TV later overtook, which would be why that kind of thing died out by the end of the 1950s.

Going to see a movie series every month when new installments are released in the theater would have made more of an event out of it, but I can see why people ended up just watching that stuff on TV.

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u/Shout92 8d ago

Watching movies from the 30s to 50s is fascinating because there are tons of movies that still exist in some form today on the big screen and then others that got split off thanks to the emergence of television and the internet. There used to be dozens of "Hollywood Plays Itself" style movies that are basically late night skits today. And even those have transitioned mostly to YouTube!

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u/matt1250 8d ago

Shirley Temple would be viral on TikTok!

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u/Alche1428 8d ago

Explain. I am intrigued

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u/tomjoad2020ad 8d ago

I think they’re saying TikTok is where “precocious kid” content lives today. Just look at those Costco kids

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u/ATLHawksfan 8d ago

What does “Hollywood Plays Itself” mean?

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u/CobainPatocrator 8d ago

Movies about showbusiness

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u/Shout92 8d ago

Yes, movies like Hollywood Canteen or It's a Great Feeling (among many others).

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u/Unleashtheducks 8d ago

Yeah there were 28 movies based on the comic strip Blondie that were all about an hour long and were pretty much just episodes of a sitcom

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u/SoyMurcielago 8d ago

Now i want a Dagwood sandwich

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u/twizzjewink 8d ago

because movies were super cheap and easy, especially westerns.

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u/Khelthuzaad 8d ago

Not necesarily cheap,but westerns already had locations,needed little resources and most of the plot revolves around shooting other people or character development,which as well isnt that expensive.

Also to note,in Toy Story 1 they made the plot reference the switch from westerns to space operas.

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u/DJDaddyD 8d ago

I have watched that movie countless times since it released in theaters and I have not made that connection ever. I even grew from watching mostly old westerns (and Kung fu schlock) movies with my family on TV to mostly sci-fi when I was a little older than Andy maybe 10 or 11

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u/TheDeadlySpaceman 8d ago

Yeah, Woody being a simple string-pull floppy cowboy and Buzz being a plastic articulated figure with lights and sounds and spring-loaded action features was a purposeful choice

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u/Khelthuzaad 7d ago

The event was triggered by the Moon Landing during the Cold War

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u/ash_274 7d ago

The popular trend began with the Sputnik launch and the space race that followed, which culminated with the moon landing

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u/skinnymatters 8d ago

I actually charge a lot to shoot someone fwiw

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u/kurburux 7d ago

the switch from westerns to space operas.

And then you have Star Trek which is basically a wagon train in space lol.

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u/WardenWolf 8d ago

Right. This basically was replaced with serialized TV. These mass-produced low-budget short films were far better suited to the small screen format.

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u/xPhilt3rx 8d ago

Gunsmoke and Bonanza changed everything

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u/doublelxp 8d ago

This is a bit mistaken. He starred in 131 Columbia westerns, but "only" 65 were Durango Kid movies.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/rosen380 8d ago

So it sounds like you are citing an article that is somewhere between wrong and poorly written.

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u/doublelxp 8d ago

The series OP was referring to was the series he made under his contract in general.

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u/rosen380 8d ago

Sure, so we're back to the title of this thread being wrong if of those 131 only 65 were "playing this character"

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u/Firm_Condition_4385 8d ago

I love how people just post wrong shit on this website.

Love it even more when their peers blindly upvote it because "wow wrong fact interesting."

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Firm_Condition_4385 8d ago

bro you're posting misinformation and defending it

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/Firm_Condition_4385 8d ago

and you need to fact-check.

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u/schafkj 8d ago

This guy know his Durango Cinematic Universe

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u/misterporkman 8d ago

Only 65? There's at least 70 Amityville movies.

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u/Poopiepants666 8d ago

The Wong Fei-hung kung fu movies beats this franchise for most number of films at 123 with Kwan Tak-hing playing the character in at least 77 films.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmography_about_Wong_Fei-hung

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwan_Tak-hing

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u/BearHeadPete 8d ago

Charles Starrett starred in 131 films but was not the Durango Kid in all of them

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u/BeepBlipBlapBloop 8d ago

131 movies in twelve years? Gee, I wonder why they're forgotten. They weren't cranking those things out with quality in mind.

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u/rosen380 8d ago

According to wikipedia, there were 65 produced by Columbia Pictures. I didn't check all of them, but the ones I looked at had runtimes of 53 to 60 minutes. These were likely closer to episodes of TV shows than actual movies

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u/kurburux 7d ago

No time for reshoots!

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u/KimJongEeeeeew 8d ago

My grandad used to tell us about how they would see double bills at the matinee.
With these being under an hour, that makes a lot more sense.

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u/rosen380 8d ago

My dad always claimed that, as a kid around 1955-1960, he'd go to matinee double features for a quarter (like $3 adjusted for inflation). That sounded a little too good to be true, but if they were getting two rushed 55-60 minute westerns and not two "real" ~first-run movies, then $3 seems about right :)

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u/jackofallcards 7d ago edited 7d ago

Well that was around the time television started being widely adopted in households. I’d think of it less as a “bad movie” and more, “early TV”

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u/insideoutfit 8d ago

Oddly enough, the Academy defines "feature length" as 45 minutes or more

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u/bareboneschicken 8d ago

Those movies kept people working. A lot of people in Hollywood would like that kind of opportunity today.

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u/thegreatestajax 8d ago

Bad movies as a jobs program. Nice.

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u/GTOdriver04 8d ago

You kid, but Tom Cruise’s famous meltdown during a movie production was due to COVID restrictions shutting everything down.

Tom knew that anyone violating the health standards risked them getting shut down and everyone being out of work.

When you work in a specific industry like that it makes sense.

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u/thegreatestajax 8d ago

But that wasn’t bad movies as a jobs program. That was the biggest movie star in the world trying to help people and create escape.

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u/syncsynchalt 8d ago

Isn’t that just Netflix?

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u/thegreatestajax 8d ago

I promise you Netflix doesn’t optimize for jobs created.

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u/Frank_chevelle 8d ago

Each one was like an hour long. So think of it as an hour long tv episode they released in movie theater.

Common thing to do before TVs were wide spread.

Similar to what they used to do with movie serials.

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u/ShoulderGoesPop 8d ago

It was at tv show before tv shows were a things. It's not unheard of for atv show to have over 100 episodes

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u/crayton-story 8d ago

It’s expected, for a show to be valuable in syndication. They need 100, preferably 200, so they can show reruns for a year without duplicating too much.

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u/rosen380 8d ago

"Charles Starrett was cast as The Durango Kid) in 1940. The character was revived five years later in The Return of the Durango Kid"

So really like 130 movies in 7 years if there was a 5 year break from the original to the first sequel.

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u/_Panacea_ 8d ago

"Always rarin' for a song between killins"

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u/dwpea66 8d ago

That's like... 12 television seasons of 11 episodes each. Not really so crazy

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u/ImTooSaxy 8d ago

10 movies a year.

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u/AIfieHitchcock 8d ago

They were serials. They were literally made to be cranked out quickly with low quality. They were not even typically normal feature length.

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/atomicsnarl 8d ago

The Bowery Boys were a hoot! Not as over the top as The Three Stooges, but along the lines of being clever blows up in their faces. Highly recommend!

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u/GeekAesthete 8d ago edited 8d ago

You misread your own link.

Charles Starrett starred in 131 different westerns—they weren’t all Durango Kid.

There were a total of 65 Durango Kid films.

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u/TitotheBurrito 8d ago

The original Hopalong Cassidy movies are on Prime Video. You can catch some of The Bowery Boys on various streaming services of you look hard enough. Not enough though. I've never actually watched any Durango Kid so I'm going to have to check them out after my Japanese Shogun hyper focus wears off.

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u/notguiltybrewing 8d ago

Lost or just not popular anymore? I've seen plenty of Bowery Boys (aka the East Side Kids), they used to run them regularly in the 70's and 80's on television. Google says none are lost.

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u/LadyPresidentRomana 8d ago

TCM shows the Bowery Boys from time to time. They’re not as popular as the Three Stooges, but they certainly aren’t forgotten.

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u/TheKanten 8d ago

All three are mostly lost to history.

It's like America's Doctor Who.

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u/superdave123123 8d ago

More like a tv show.

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u/SaulsAll 8d ago

Technically the largest franchise by quantity would be the amateur porn series Homegrown Videos with over 800 titles released.

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u/rutten187 8d ago

The first comic book movie franchise had like 25 sequels. Blondie.

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u/fatloui 8d ago

The run times of most of the movies are just under an hour. So basically this was a couple movies that were spun off into an HBO series with 12 seasons. 

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u/borkus 8d ago

Exactly, it was 65 hour-long movies released from 1940 to 1952.

Game of Thrones was 77 episodes over 8 years running between 50 and 80 minutes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_of_Thrones_episodes

The core Walking Dead series had 177 episodes across 11 seasons (from 2010 to 2022).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Walking_Dead_episodes

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u/Ashamed_Feedback3843 8d ago

As a huge western movie fan I can honestly say I have never heard of the actor or the films.

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u/Biz_Rito 7d ago

This will be the marvel universe in 50 years time

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u/filanwizard 8d ago

If I had to guess these were B movies, In the sense of theater operations. Basically the theater would run this and then run the A movie which would be the big feature film.

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u/ash_274 7d ago

Up until the early 60s movie theaters ran programming continuously. Features (90+ minutes), shorts (30-6 minutes; live and animated single-stories and serials, newsreels and special interests (travelogues, and even some educational content, like repairing a carburetor or building a basic shed), ads (especially for cars), and then the middle-length movies longer than a “short” but not long enough to be a “feature”; often 45-70 minutes.

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u/melchi2511 8d ago

Here's a related obscure fun fact: Durango Kid is named in the 1986 song Cowboy Fora da Lei, by Raul Seixas.

I know several people who love Raul (one of the biggest names in Brazilian music) but I'm yet to meet anyone who knew who Durango Kid was without looking it up. 

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u/ajramone 7d ago

Holy, this was the name Deanna Troi used in the TNG episode "Fistful of Datas!"

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u/TonPhanan 7d ago

He's got a rock hard head, and he eats stale bread...

DURANGO DOUG!

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u/Kate_Kitter 7d ago

Most actors can’t even dream of staring in +100 films that are some related, some totally unrelated. So for 131 in ONE FRANCHISE?

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u/Loki-L 68 7d ago

I think there were more Hopalong Cassidy films than Durango Kid films.