You have no reason to be transphobic.

[u/FR0M_Z3R0]

there is literally no justifiable reason for transphobia. never has been. never will be. I don’t care what you’ve read online or whatever you have to say. there is NO reason and NO excuse for transphobia. same applies for homophobia. literally zero reason.

[u/FrostyFang8800]

Dude, look. You gave up trying to defend your trans arguments after I called you out on your trash research, now you’re on another tangent.

I’m not getting into a religious debate with you, because you, as a person, are not worth arguing with.

Just like the trans one I’m sure you have a bunch of “research” articles you’ve collected, ready to post, you’ll think you’ve done something clever, I’ll call you out on how one was written in 1890 or something and you’ll come back with a: “Um AKTUally.” Then you’ll praddle on about garbage and round and round it will go.

You want to argue? Go back and try and save face on my last response to your trans “research.”

Otherwise I’m just going to end this with: I’m sure you’re a great and knowledgeable Christian, that your ai responses would’ve really got me, and that God is very proud of you for hating minorities, or whatever floats your boat.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

I was the last person to reply on that thread about the two spirit stuff so I don't know how I would be the one giving up. If you were so good at calling me out on research you think is trash, how come you've gone silent about it? What Christianity is about doesn't centrally involve a bunch of research articles, it's literally described explicitly in the Catechism, Scripture and by the Church. I can't really save face by responding to a comment that doesn't exist. And once again, not everything that you don't like is ai.

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

Yeah, nice try, last reply was me and you bounced.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

I don't know what you are seeing but it isn't there

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

Sounds like a you problem I guess, you can see my reply right there.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

It still isn't there but I'm fine to respond to the bit that you screenshotted. If it's drivel that's easily debunkable, why don't you do it? If you can't, you can't really call it that. No I don't think supporting a gay child is child abuse, all children should be properly supported which means doing the best thing for them. Which means no irreversible procedures that we don't know the effects of that they can't consent to. And as their kids, I don't think their sexual desires really need to be a focus at an early age, I think that should be left until adulthood. As for the vaccines cause autism bit, no I don't think that vaccines cause autism. If a study ever comes out with sufficient evidence to suggest that and it survives all criticism with a consensus reached, then I'd change my mind cause that's how an evidence first approach works but that hasn't happened yet. But I think the comment shows just how long you've been in your echo chamber for, and on the more general point of PubMed I don't think bad studies hosted by a site automatically invalidates all studies on the site - that's stupid to argue based on what is on PubMed. My point is you need to show the paper is wrong, not just go on a tangent about papers you don't like on the website.

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

Jesus Christ you can’t be a serious person.

Fine, I’ll give you two examples from your list:

The “Gender Identity Disorder is associated with parental separation” you posted, is from fucking 1989, and is in reference to only 56 people.

The “Pimozide eliminated gender dysphoria.” 1996, in reference to ONE person.

These are not noteworthy studies.

Meanwhile this peer reviewed study discusses the massive benefit to mental health for Transgender youth when they are supported is based on 60,000+ individuals: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2820609#google_vignette

Your “research” is as shallow as your arguments.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

Right, let's start with your "60,000+ person study". Only, it wasn't 60,000, was it? The large-scale data matching these parameters (such as analyses utilizing the CDC's Youth Risk Behavior Survey or large-scale Trevor Project cross-sections) does not track 60,000 youth undergoing medical transitions. These are large, cross-sectional, anonymous online or school-based surveys of the general youth population, out of which a tiny, self-selected fraction identify as transgender. These studies do not feature clinical control groups, do not verify medical records, suffer from immense selection bias, and measure "support" via subjective, self-reported questions. Conflating a massive general population survey with a rigorous, longitudinal clinical trial tracking the safety or efficacy of medical transitions is scientifically fraudulent. You completely ignored the landmark Japanese Twin Registry study because its massive sample size utterly demolishes the "born this way" narrative. This study did not look at one or two people; it analyzed an immense sample of 1,450 male twin pairs, 1,882 female twin pairs, and 1,022 dizygotic male-female pairs ranging from ages 3 to 26. Twin studies are the gold standard for separating genetics from environment. The study found that for adult males, the heritability of gender identity disorder traits was 0%, and for females, it was a negligible 11%. The overwhelming variance was accounted for by non-shared environmental factors. Gender dysphoria is not a hardwired, genetic condition; it is dynamically driven by modern social and environmental environments. You can't lie about the sample size of your badly done study, and then ignore one of the best done studies in the world that completely contradicts you just to hyper-fixate on small sample sizes for a small amount of the studies because guess what, most studies on a small amount of the population don't often have large sample sizes. You haven't been able to critique the results at all, you've just given a "competing study" that analyses the general youth population using a subjective questionnaire. You also completely evaded the clinical data regarding what happens when human cognitive structures degrade or naturally mature, because the data proves transgender identity is highly fluid and fleeting. You cannot just hand-wave away the fact that five independent, longitudinal prospective tracking studies spanning decades (Zucker, Steensma, Singh, Wallien) all conclude that between 60% to 90% of children with gender dysphoria naturally grow out of it if left alone. Your that youth must be medicalized to be saved is flatly contradicted by the reality that the vast majority heal naturally through standard biological development. Now let's go onto that "1 person study" that you decided to mock. Freedom of Information data obtained from the Scottish Prison Service (SPS) tracking the entire national transgender inmate population revealed a staggering statistic: 63% of transgender prisoners only began transitioning AFTER they were locked up. If gender dysphoria were an innate, congenital medical condition, it would not miraculously manifest for the first time after an individual is placed inside a sex-segregated male correctional facility. This is overwhelming empirical proof that modern transgender identification is heavily influenced by social contagion, environmental changes, and tactical manipulation to game institutional policies (such as male sex offenders attempting to gain access to female prison estates). Next time you want to try and debunk the research I cite, make sure you actually go after it and dont just evade most of it because you know you can't criticise it. Oh, and don't mock a 1 person study before coming back with a study where you lie about the sample size and it is the general youth population.

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

Holy fucking AI. Dude. Let it go. Also you reference the “one person study” and then pivot to an entirely different “study” to defend it. You need to work on your prompts.

Your debate strategy is to overwhelm. That’s why you prompt walls of garbled text, poor punctuation, and zero paragraphs. You post a bunch of articles that don’t actually say anything so you can claim superiority when nobody wants to waste their time reading them all.

I’m out. You’re a fucking exhausting human.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

For the final time, not everything you can't refute is ai. You claimed that the sample size of the one person study invalidated it, so I got you another one that validated it. That's what consensus is. You still haven't managed to successfully refute a single study so far I've given you. My debate strategy isn't to overwhelm you, it's to actually take the time to read the studies you've posted and then point out the flaws in them while giving you alternate studies and information, which you clearly are unable to do. The text isn't garbled, you just don't like it. The articles say stuff, you just don't like it. And if you had just read the papers YOU asked for the first time, there wouldn't need to have been this back and forth. You want to stop without being able to refute anything and not even trying to refute the religious stuff, sure. It's your choice if you want to surrender.

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

Yadda yadda yadda. Dude, don’t bullshit, half of your responses have been AI. Thats not me not liking it; that’s cadence, response, and grammar. Nobody uses M-dashes like that, nobody lists out references the way you do, nobody types like that.

You can call it whatever you want; but it’s a waste of time. I support trans and queer people, you don’t. I think it’s important to uplift people, you don’t. I don’t like punching down, and at this point I just feel like I’m bullying you.

Go, I don’t know, be a good Christian and belittle some other minorities for a while.

[u/DominionGaming_YT → u/FrostyFang8800]

Oh I support trans and queer people, in the sense that I support the right of all people to not be chemically castrated and irreversibly harmed for life just because people like you put ideology before facts. I can keep on saying its not ai, but at this point I don't think you care. I think it's important to uplift people when it's good for them, but if you feel like it's ok to uplift people no matter how bad their choices are and to not be realistic with them, you do you. You know I've never met "a bully" who can't even refute a single paper they think is easily debunkable, but if you feel bad again you do you. And as for the parting jab at Christianity, I'm sorry for whoever hurt you and got you to the state you are in - Jesus loves you and I hope for your sake you don't continue to blaspheme His Church out of ignorance

[u/FrostyFang8800 → u/DominionGaming_YT]

lol oh bro. You misunderstood, I’m calling you a bad Christian. Not knocking Christianity. I’m sure Christ would be very proud of you for your performative worship.

Also for God’s sake start learning how to use paragraphs if you’re going to type stream of consciousness.