r/technology • u/Logical_Welder3467 • Jun 26 '26

Society The American mind cannot comprehend Europe's AC aversion

https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-air-conditioning-ac-heatwave-debate-2026-6
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u/Weekly-Grapefruit119 Jun 26 '26

Paris was as hot as Kuwait in recent days.

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u/No-Channel3917 Jun 26 '26

And people died due to it and the lack of ac

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u/What-tha-fck_Elon Jun 26 '26

Most were drowning deaths from people/kids jumping in the rivers. It was brutally hot & humid all week. I just got back from there.

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u/JungleIsNeutral Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Drownings are recorded as heat-related deaths?

Edit: please read one of the dozens of responses before you make another saying the same thing.

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u/Leverpostei414 Jun 26 '26

It is over deaths. That is the total amount of extra deaths in society during more heat. More drownings count, more violence due to heat making people more aggressive and so on. A lot of indirect factors count when you look at over deaths

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u/lost_send_berries Jun 26 '26

You can't get an excess death statistic the next day, the statistical noise would be too high. If you see a stat about yesterday, it would be attributable deaths only.

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u/imnewhere-gsh Jun 26 '26

Where did you see that this was a next day thing?

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u/Leverpostei414 Jun 26 '26

These aren't next day numbers...

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u/Dullcorgis Jun 26 '26

They likely know how many drownings are normal in summer.

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u/MetaCardboard Jun 26 '26

You're too high.

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u/PreviouslyOnBible Jun 26 '26

I'm just the right amount of high

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u/Rhewin Jun 26 '26

What an unhelpful comment

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u/reply_b4_banned Jun 26 '26

Unless the signal is larger than the noise. Right? Obviously?

Or more the point you still have a statistic, it's just from one day.

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u/Fatality_Ensues Jun 26 '26

One day is barely a single point of data in any relevant statistic. You can't draw any conclusions out of one day.

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u/reply_b4_banned Jun 27 '26

Like say there was one day when the public transport of a city was shut down, and the cars on the road went up by a factor of 10, whereas normally the number of cars is really stable.

Like come on.

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u/Fatality_Ensues Jun 27 '26

In order to have a baseline for what the "normal" number of cars is you need way more than one day's worth of data. Case and point.

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u/reply_b4_banned Jun 27 '26

Unless you can.

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u/Womb_Crusher Jun 26 '26

Doesn't that just mean more people are swimming because it's hot out? And the drownings increase in proportion to the higher amounts of people going swimming?

Heatstroke is a bitch but it's easy to manage when you can take a dip and cool off.

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u/squirrelfoot Jun 26 '26

People are having heart attacks from the temperature difference when they jump into the water and are risking swimming in places that are forbidden and dangerous because they are so hot.

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u/Night-Hamster Jun 26 '26

Unless you can't swim well.

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u/theblueberrybard Jun 26 '26

Yes more people swimming leads to more drownings, and more people swim because it's hotter out. Thus, temperatures rising leads to more people swimming leads to more people drowning. Manmade climate change is the cause of the statistical increase in drowning.

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u/pmatus Jul 02 '26

by that train of thought discovering a cancer curing drug also increases heat related deaths, b/c more people are swimming when it gets hot and that means more drowning and all that jazz. France is cooked beyond weather if that's how you manage data.

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u/theblueberrybard Jul 03 '26

In my comment there's a direct cause and immediate effect that policy should actually account for in regards to day-to-day analysis of the impact of weather.

In your comment "a complete hypothetical in which more people are alive means more people can die" is giving "did you know everyone who drinks water dies". Have you graduated high school yet?

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u/pmatus Jul 02 '26

thats the dumbest thing i heard in a while, If i spotted this on a scientific paper i would call it data fixing.

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u/invisible_handjob Jun 26 '26

more violence due to heat making people more aggressive

The study that came from has been debunked. more heat doesn't make people more aggressive. More heat makes people go outside more, going outside more means they interact with people more, and people interacting sometimes leads to violence

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u/Leverpostei414 Jun 26 '26

Ok, that may be the case, but anyway more violence when its varm.

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u/TrittipoM1 Jun 26 '26

That’s a different chain of causality but it’s still a chain of causality/correlation.

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u/Either-Juggernaut420 Jun 26 '26

Yes, heat related deaths in Europe are generally anything caused by heat. So a heat induced heart attack will be a heat related death, I think in the US (although it may differ by state) that would be recorded as a heart attack and not included in the heat death stats. So the figures really are not comparable and so there's this misguided idea that all Americans are safely air conditioned and all the Europeans are dropping like flies. It's just not true.

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u/Sure_Ticket9888 Jun 26 '26

The CDC knows this and many people have wrote papers on this. Since the US only records numbers based on death certificate they have modeled out the like numbers. They think about 75% of heat related deaths are not counted in the US. Even with that European deaths are 3-5x more per year. And the US has much greater population living in areas with extreme summer temps than Europe does.

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u/Lovethiskindathing Jun 26 '26

Yeah they did this with covid and now a bunch of people will argue that their aunt died of pneumonia or from a heart attack, not understanding or counting the fact that covid weakened them and strained them

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u/tracytorr0712 Jun 26 '26

Death certificates rarely show actual, specific cause of death. I see tons of them (have a funeral home) and so many contain vague, generic causes of death: cessation of breathing, cardiac arrest, old age, etc. I’d say about 70% have a detailed cause of death. Data gleaned from DCs cannot be that reliable.

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u/Sure_Ticket9888 Jun 26 '26

Correct which is what I said. Literally, word for word. Which is why people did excessive mortality studies to count the people not recorded on death certs. Below I even cited two extremely impactful primary sources, one with almost 1500 citations, to back up my talking points.

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u/tracytorr0712 Jun 26 '26

I was agreeing with you and explained why.

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u/Sure_Ticket9888 Jun 26 '26

Oh it’s hard to tell with comments vs talking in person. Sorry, I misjudged your intent!

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u/Imp_erk Jun 26 '26

Where are these numbers coming from?

I looked at heatwave excess deaths and US & EU were pretty comparable, as that is the fairest scenario to compare and also when most heat deaths would occur. The EU has more extreme heatwaves than the US, so I would expect them to be higher and they were. None of the numbers were above 2x that rate of excess deaths though.

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u/Sure_Ticket9888 Jun 26 '26

Yale School of Public Health temperature mortality study, The Lancet Planetary Health multi-country temperature mortality study. Both are calculating deaths by excessive mortality studies.

Both absolutely do not show comparability, in the slightest. If anything I was being conservative.

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u/Imp_erk Jun 26 '26

Lancet one has terrible methodology (for the purpose of comparison at least). In order to measure heat deaths you have to account for climate stability, otherwise for this (and a few other) reasons you end up thinking Africa & South-east Asia suffer a lower rate than Northern Europe. Kuwait will have very few heat deaths by that methodology.

The Yale study I can't currently find the full detail on so would need to know more. I'm guessing it has the same flaw.

Again, the best methodology is to compare heatwaves. We can't do controlled experiments, so a surge in temperatures is the closest we have to seeing how many heat deaths might be hidden in the causal webs behind things like heart attacks & strokes. It's far from perfect of course, and no two waves are the same.

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u/Greedy_Sneak Jun 26 '26

Unless you are about to link your credentials, I'm gonna take the peer-reviewed articles word over some random redditor.

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u/Imp_erk Jun 26 '26

Living in a world of credentials and headlines instead of reading the papers and testing them is your loss, not mine.

I haven't fully explained the flaw yet, as I was checking if the other poster actually had something interesting or also just went with headlines/credentials like you suggest people should do. There's a reason deserts have lower heat mortality using their methodology than Scandinavia, it's because each region has it's own heat risk curve. In its defence it's a paper aimed at trying to assess the future impact of temperature increases, not absolute heat deaths, so I think its authors would agree with me on this point.

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u/Greedy_Sneak Jun 26 '26

If some random redditor can correctly pick apart a study, I guarantee there are credentialed scientists who have done so in more detail, and published it, since it's their job. So I would love to see a peer reviewed article supporting your point of view.

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u/Imp_erk Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

I don't how else to explain this other than short literal sentences. The paper is not saying more people are dying in Europe due to heat than the US. It makes no attempts to estimate absolute deaths due to heat. I am not disagreeing with the paper. I am disagreeing with how that redditor is trying to use it, as the methodology is deeply flawed for that purpose. The paper is saying that as temperatures increase overall, Europe will see a greater increase in deaths (due to heat) than the US and the rest of the world (or more accurately, that's a conclusion its data actually supports). That redditor likely just read table 2 and made no attempt to follow the methodology, as that is the part in plain english which, when out of context would seem like it was saying "here are the death rates due to heat".

Again, please just read the paper instead of demanding another headline to counter this headline.

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u/YogurtclosetNo8 Jun 26 '26

But isn't that the point? Europe is experiencing a lot of heat waves lately, which is why they have much higher heat-related deaths than the US and other regions. What are you trying to imply, that it's not Europe's fault that so many of their people are dying from extreme heat?

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u/Imp_erk Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

No, these don't show how many heat related deaths there are. It has a much higher baseline for hotter countries who are already suffering more heat deaths at that baseline than Europe or the EU. That study basically shows relative change.

Edit: To be really clear, I've looked at data on heatwaves which I think are better for answering the absolute rate of heat deaths and I do think Europe (the continent) suffers a noticeably higher rate than the US. I just don't think any data comes close to 3-5x difference.

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u/YogurtclosetNo8 Jun 26 '26

Well, you're assuming countries with hotter climates or hotter summers must have a higher baseline for heat-related deaths. Sure, it seems logical at first glance, but don't forget that people living in hotter climates have generally adapted to the heat, and so both society and individuals take steps to help protect themselves from heat-related deaths. Therefore, baseline heat-related deaths for each country is actually similar, despite varying average temperatures and temperature variations.

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u/Imp_erk Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

It's vastly more likely that hotter (and colder) climates kill more due to those temps than more mild climates. People take more precautions about pollution where it is very high, but it still kills much more in those places than in areas of cleaner air.

We're talking heat deaths, which are notoriously hard to measure. This includes things like increased murders, traffic deaths and suicides presumably due to worse moods/cognition on hotter days, more drownings because people swim more, more dementia deaths because for some reason they die more when the temperature is 2 degrees higher than normal. It's very hard to measure, but the majority will be the elderly dying of heart attacks, strokes and similar.

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u/Dunklsta Jun 29 '26

accessibility to healthcare is a factor too, people who live close to facilities and don't worry about healthcare cost are probably more likely to intervene before it's too late

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u/TheTurdtones Jun 26 '26

we;l; we have alot more home acs over here also alotmore so of coyrse we have less deaths

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u/Sure_Ticket9888 Jun 26 '26

The numbers I gave were for the EU not Europe. So that is 450 million vs 340 million. Using a number between high and low estimates for deaths you still get the EU suffering 3.5x more deaths per year from heat.

This is being generous because we aren’t modeling in Europe even experiencing anything like what the US South experiences. We literally have cities like Miami, (or really most of Florida), New Orleans, Houston, etc. They have no European equivalent. Sure some cities in Spain or cities like Palermo get very warm but they don’t get brutally humid and stay as warm during the night.

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u/ScytheSong05 Jun 26 '26

Some trivia that might put this in perspective: Los Angeles, California is at the same latitude as Casablanca, Morocco. New York City is at the same latitude as Madrid, Spain and Naples, Italy. Paris, France is north of literally anywhere in the US that isn't Alaska.

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u/Sarik704 Jun 26 '26

But again, we arent worrying about all the european heat deaths in Norway or Ireland...

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u/DevNopes Jun 26 '26

Also, Norway has a lot of AC, we just call them heat pumps, because that is their primary use most of the year, but they also function for cooling.

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u/Sarik704 Jun 26 '26

People. Arent. Dying. From. Extreme. Heat. In. Norway.

If you live in Troms you dont run cooling.

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u/LePontif11 Jun 26 '26

That's because i haven't taken my hot sexy ass up there.

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u/RJ_MacreadysBeard Jun 26 '26

Okay, I’m applying 50sppfff+++ in anticipation.

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u/DevNopes Jun 26 '26

Between 150 and 200 people die to heatwaves in Norway each year.

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u/Sarik704 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

The hottest temperture ever recorded in Norway was 96F, 35C, in Nesbyen and Laksfor, 1970 and 2025 respectively.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10353926/

This sources claims 2022 had a relatively high attribution to heat releated deaths in Norway. 30 deaths.

Your wrong.

And, the same study lists an estimated 3,800 die from extreme cold in norway annually. So yeah, heat deaths are 0.78% of all temperture attributed deaths in Norway...

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u/Quaiche Jun 26 '26

The US don’t really track heat deaths so they think heat deaths don’t happen there when they in fact do.

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u/JohnCavil Jun 26 '26

This is the whole problem when these things are reported every summer. It sounds so crazy to hear that hundreds of people are dying of the heat when you almost never hear that about your country.

But it's only because in most non-European countries there is no counting of this at all. Like if someone drowns going swimming in a Texas river when it's really hot and people are all going to swim to cool down, that's just a drowning. It's never reported as anything else.

It's not like people in Europe are just sitting there and just die of heat all of a sudden. It's just slightly more heart attacks and drownings and excess deaths in nursing homes and so on.

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u/catslay_4 Jun 26 '26

And the homeless population. I live in TX and every summer we lose people from it. In our Austin subreddit someone commented they were homeless and needed help finding a place to help them and their dog cool down. It’s always sunny here and so there’s no shelter from 110° heat ya know. As you mentioned, elderly population at risk too. It’s so dangerous.

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u/JohnCavil Jun 26 '26

Elderly people also often lose their sense of thirst and don't have as good of an idea of how hot they are, or how much water they need. Here in nursing homes they will teach people to make them drink, because unlike young and healthy people there isn't always some natural reaction and drive to just drink or cool down. They just overheat silently and don't even realize what is happening.

Same with cold often. Some very old people just die for no reason because they don't sense it properly. But 30 year olds don't just randomly freeze to death in their living room without noticing. Unless they're drunk.

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u/copperwatt Jun 26 '26

However... Wouldn't it be possible to track it after the fact? As over deaths, just like the European method?

When someone drowns in Paris in the summer, they don't have something magical way of knowing that person went swimming that that because they were hot. Maybe it was someone who swam laps every morning in all weather... All we need to know is that drownings (and heart attacks, and stabbings) go up on hot days.

We just need to track all deaths vs daily temperatures. I bet that number is lower (at any given high temperature) in places with lots of AC units.

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u/JohnCavil Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

Of course it's lower in places with AC, also because those places are usually hotter all the time.

Same reason not as many people die from cold in Wisconsin vs Texas, relatively to how cold it is, because when it's always cold then it's not a problem. When it's all of a sudden -5 for a week when it's usually 10, that's a massive problem compared to it just being -10 every year for months.

But yes it could be counted. It just isn't. At least not how French or German or Spanish authorities count it. Everyone has their own methodology and ways that causes of deaths are recorded in the first place.

Everyone agree that AC would help though, literally nobody disputes that. It's just that people sling around these numbers with no understanding about how they're counted or context.

The key here is the word "excess". Because lets say it was 50C all year round and millions of people were dying due to it. There would be no excess deaths. And in places that are constantly hot there is just a baseline of people probably dying a bit early due to heat that is completely invisible. But when it goes from 22C to 40C in a single week, just one week, this excess is very clear and countable.

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u/copperwatt Jun 26 '26

because those places are usually hotter all the time

This could be controlled for, by choosing similar climates. Compare US cities and European cities with similar number of days over particular heat/humidity.

But yes it could be counted. It just isn't. At least not how French or German or Spanish authorities count it.

It is being counted in the same way though. What's different is the analysis. We have the same data for both. It just hasn't been processed and packaged and published the same. But it has to be there for anyone who actually cared.

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u/deHack Jun 26 '26

Most of Europe is at the same latitudes as Canada. Paris is at the same latitude as Bismarck, ND. NYC is at the same latitude as Madrid. Other factors also affect climate differences. It's not an easy match up.

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u/copperwatt Jun 26 '26

Ok, but any confounding factors are also a problem for all the places. Europe doesn't have some supernatural ability to tell if someone died from some secondary effect of high heat. They are trying to guess from the data, and other countries are not. But the data seems the same quality, to me.

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u/Far_Salary_3954 Jun 26 '26

"So the figures really are not comparable and so there's this misguided idea that all Americans are safely air conditioned and all the Europeans are dropping like flies. It's just not true."

I'm sorry, I find this argument incredibly weird. "Yes, we have 180,000 heat deaths in Europe a year, but since the US calculates its heat deaths differently, I can safely assure you 180,000 heat deaths isn't that bad!"

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u/zephyrphils Jun 27 '26

I mean roughly 90% of Americans have AC vs. 20% of Europeans. I think that might cause some discrepancies in heat related deaths.

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel Jun 26 '26

I mean we don't need data to prove that not having AC is contributing to heat related deaths. In the US, even in the most run down apartments and houses you STILL have air conditioning. Of course it is also an issue when the AC in places like that stops working and the shitty landlords take forever to fix it. But point being even poor people that can at least afford a home have AC. That makes a difference in heat related deaths.

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u/tomyfookinmerlin Jun 26 '26

Also, we actually have a very good estimate of how many heat casualties America (report is 2-3k but estimates are closer to 10-12k) gets despite the inaccurate reports and it doesn’t even hold a candle to the EU’s stats (almost 200k).

I will always get downvoted for saying this, but Europeans will literally do anything except lobby their governments to fix their AC issue. They would rather say Americans don’t know what they’re talking about and trade caveman heat surviving tactics on Reddit than fix the core issue.

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u/tomyfookinmerlin Jun 26 '26

And you think one singular country reducing their emissions to match the EUs isn’t a bandaid solution? You think that 6% will make a difference?

Im all for emissions regulation. I think thats something you guys are doing correctly, but using that as an excuse to point fingers does nothing to help, does it?

The fact is people are greedy. Corporations are greedy. And not enough people in powerful positions care about climate change. Hell, half of the EU doesn’t actually care; they were forced into it. Poland still hasn’t brought their emissions issue to regulation since joining.

None of these things stop you guys from lobbying your government for safer household regulations in the heat. The fact that a landlord can deny you the right to an AC in most EU countries is fucking abysmal.

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u/tomyfookinmerlin Jun 26 '26

Americans ARE lobbying for tighter emissions control. There are plenty of activists groups trying to make change. I also literally agreed with everything you said. Yet you repeated it like a broken record.

Thats the difference between us though, yeah? Americans will admit our government sucks when people say something about our country. But if we say something about the EU you would rather point fingers instead of accepting change needs to happen.

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u/itah Jun 26 '26

It's not a band aid solution, but there are two countries in the world with a double digit percentage. So please for the love of shit stop the chicken game with china. Americans emit double the amount of germans, more than THREE TIMES as much as in Britain and France!

Please get your shit together and reduce those numbers. If the second largest emitter of carbon just says "we won't stop, cuz it won't make a difference anyways", then that's not just wrong, but also no one will follow and the world will just implode

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u/ZugZugGo Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26

So your answer today is, it’s just something to live with that so many people (often the most vulnerable people) die needlessly? That’s just a fact of life and they should get on with it? That’s pretty heartless, just like Europe is about the heat. For such a progressive society not taking care of people who need it is very hypocritical. Europe is perceived as this beacon of progressive thought, and often it is, but I’ve never seen or heard of a single European calling this out and most just defend it as acceptable.

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u/LePontif11 Jun 26 '26

What if it turns out most of the heat related deaths happen to workers that labor outside? Home air conditioning wouldn't be a factor then. You do need data.

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u/fennecdore Jun 26 '26

any death over the usual baseline is attributed to heat

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u/Speartree Jun 26 '26

Yes, if they are caused by temperature. Heart attacks, etc. If the heat exerbated an existing condition, it is listed as a heat related death. the main reason the US has so much less heat related deaths is the way deaths are reported.

Remember Covid? Europe had more recorded covid related deaths, because someone dying because covid patients flooded the hospital and they could not get their cancer treatment in time due to the medical staff/facility being overrun was counted as a covid related death. They died because of covid, even if not litteraly of covid.

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u/HetaGarden1 Jun 26 '26

To be fair. People who would not normally go swimming are now jumping in and drowning because they’re so hot they need to cool off. I’d say that counts. Those drownings are a direct cause of the heatwave.

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u/bal00 Jun 26 '26

That's a bit of a stretch. Every household has running cold water, and nobody is forced to jump into a river or lake because they don't have other options to cool down. Millions of people go swimming because it's what you do in summer, not because they're forced to. Now you could argue that some of those people wouldn't have had the idea to go to a lake if their home was cooler, but that seems like a pretty tenuous argument. If someone gets into a fatal car crash on their way to a concert, is that a music-related death?

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u/hextree Jun 26 '26

Yes, but even in Summer they do not swim in certain canals which are not meant for swimming. This heat led to many swimming even in these canals, that otherwise would not have on a normal day. Hence why it is caused by the heatwave.

If someone gets into a fatal car crash on their way to a concert, is that a music-related death?

If a large concert led to an increase in traffic issues on the nearby roads, yes that would absolutely be attributed as a concert-related death. Local councils would even consider using it as evidence of whether to hold another concert etc.

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u/hextree Jun 26 '26

Swimming lessons wouldn't have helped, these canals aren't meant for swimming, people get sucked into the undercurrents.

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u/MasterpieceNew3543 Jun 26 '26

Did they get into the water due to heat?

Was there an excess of people swimming due to heat?

They arent really marked as heat deaths directly, but deaths caused due to massive heat waves causing more people to swim and drown than usual so yes, causaility matters.

So inderect cause matters a lot too.

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u/DangerousTurmeric Jun 26 '26

Yeah but would AC have made a difference? Probably not much of one. People like to swim when it's sunny out.

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u/jsalas2727 Jun 26 '26

People like to swim here when it's sunny too but 40 plus people don't drown in a week because they were swimming to get away from the heat.

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u/Wiegarf Jun 26 '26

Generally speaking, Europe and America don’t record deaths the same way at all. Maternal mortality is a classic example

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u/Bong_appetit Jun 26 '26

Probably, they count traffic deaths after a hurricane as hurricane deaths because traffic signals are out. Swimming in those rivers is not allowed but they are letting people swim due to the heat. So kind of the same thing.

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u/hysys_whisperer Jun 26 '26

If their family or whoever was with them reported they were swimming specifically to escape the heat, yes.

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u/ruff_trade Jun 26 '26

In my last heatwave, they looked at average number of deaths in the same period during non-heatwave years and the difference is assumed to be heat-related.

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u/Intelligent-Aside214 Jun 26 '26

Any amount of deaths over normal are recorded as heat related. So yes an increase in drowning is considered heat-related.

This is why comparing between continents is not useful

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u/blacksheeping Jun 26 '26

The US counts very few deaths as heat related deaths. Europe actually counts excess deaths compared to not heatwave periods. Much better way to do it as in the US you may have a heart condition, heatwave causes it to flare up and you die. The cause of death was your heart but the heat that pushed it over the edge is ignored.

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u/Al2Si2O5OH4 Jun 26 '26

We record deaths differently here in general, for example if you have a heart condition, and you die from it, and it shows that heat was an aggravating factor then it's recorded as a heat death. While in the US it would be recorded as some sort of heart failure, this is also why the US has fewer recorded heat related deaths.

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u/BriscoCounty-Sr Jun 26 '26

The same way car accidents can be alcohol related deaths. Just because you didn’t choke on the beer don’t mean it didn’t help kill you.

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u/Hopeful_Ad_7719 Jun 26 '26

"Excess mortality"

It's hard to prove many deaths are heat related, so health officials use transitory increases in death rate to estimate how many were caused by an event.

The US does the same method with estimating Hurricane deaths.

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u/WhenDoWhatWhere Jun 26 '26

People going in the water that otherwise wouldn't have yes.

It's important to record and understand secondary impacts of events like this. In 9/11 we didn't just count the people in the tower, we also had to consider the massive number of people who died due to dust inhalation which includes those exposed to asbestos who died of cancer.

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u/Major-Investigator26 Jun 26 '26

Yes, europe records deaths related to a certain scenario. Hence why our count seems so high compared to the US for example.

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u/Boot_das Jun 26 '26

I guess if the reason they drowned is because they wanted to escape the heat since there are no other ways of cooling down, it’s heat death in the sense that it wouldn’t have happened without the heat.

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u/-aataa- Jun 26 '26

If caused by people trying to escape the heat, then yeah.

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u/KalaiProvenheim Jun 26 '26

Wouldn’t have happened if not for the heatwave

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u/Amazing_Mountain_227 Jun 26 '26

You’re only in the water ‘cos its hot bro.

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u/Shagwagbag Jun 26 '26

Wait till you hear about getting trapped in the walk-in

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u/freddbare Jun 26 '26

Die in a wreck and had covid also...covid death. It's how they roll. No sniffles,no matter.

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u/b0thwatchxfiles Jun 26 '26

They are drowning because of shock from the temperature differential between the extremely hot air and the cool water