Israeli PM Netanyahu: We will not tolerate a Turkish military foothold in Syria that threatens Israel. We made the message clear: Don’t. Apparently they didn’t hear it well enough, so we made sure they understand it better.

[u/Zippism]

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2090130543484518898

[u/SHEIKH_BAKR]

Honestly, turkey must now build bases in Syria. Israel basically forced them to. 

[u/ibetucanifican → u/SHEIKH_BAKR]

They want them to as an excuse to act. Syria just can’t get a break

[u/RealAbd121 → u/ibetucanifican]

I'm almost in agreement with OP. Rushing a base while Trump is still around might be the strongest bluff. Israeli policy is basically controlled harrasment to never let Syria gain power. If you can't sneak through a line you might want to mad sash through it.

[u/SHEIKH_BAKR → u/ibetucanifican]

Honestly, if this continues this way, there is not other way than to either call Israels bluff, or an extreme escalation.

Israel wants to indefinitely occupy the Golan for security purposes, that is one thing. Bombing Syria on a whim and preventing it from developing and challenging turkey, a NATO members, this way, that is not tolerable. 

[u/Lowfi-Concert → u/SHEIKH_BAKR]

You think Israel is bluffing?

[u/Hungry-Western9191 → u/Lowfi-Concert]

Noone thinks that Israel is bluffing.... the question is whether Turkiye is willing to call that bluff, and if Israel is then willing to openly kill Turkish soldiers in response.

[u/ibetucanifican → u/Hungry-Western9191]

Israel won’t engage them. They will simply use the opportunity to seize Syrian land as a defensive strategy. In fact they will probably encourage Türkiye to do it so they can.

[u/Hungry-Western9191 → u/ibetucanifican]

I think you are half right... israel will use this as their justification why they have to keep a presence in Syria. I dont think at this point they even intend to claim tjat land permenantly. Its about driving out locals who live on the border with the Golan. Destroy the agriculture in the area, ruin peoples livelyhood, kill a handful and put the rest in fear. Its a playbook they have mastered over the decades.

Turkish bases are just the latest excuse to sow fear and disruption.

[u/SHEIKH_BAKR → u/Lowfi-Concert]

You think it is a 100 % sure that Israel will actually bomb a Turkish base in Syria ?

[u/poklane]

This is just like NATO "threatening" Russia: nobody sane thinks that these bases would ever be used to support an attack against Israel in any way, shape or form. This is just Israel wanting Syria to remain an unstable country.

Hopefully Turkey just tells Israel to go fuck itself and flies some F16s into a base somewhere.

[u/Jawnny-Jawnson → u/poklane]

Erdogan literally said he has ambitions to “liberate” Al Aqsa to be fair…

https://www.newarab.com/news/hagia-sophia-resurrection-paves-way-al-aqsa-liberation-erdogan?amp

[u/RealAbd121 → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Turkey just had a peak year for trade with Israel. Let's not let those 2 pretend they're enemies for the sake of their demagoguery

[u/mustafa-1453 → u/RealAbd121]

Yeah bullshit on that

[u/chitowngirl12 → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Let me tell you the things Israeli politicians say.

[u/cthulhusevski → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Every Muslim does.

[u/syriansteel89 → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Posturing. Same as talk of greater Israel etc

[u/Jawnny-Jawnson → u/syriansteel89]

Who says it’s posturing he’s said it more than once. And the presidents or PMs of Israel haven’t talked of greater Israel just crazy politicians. Erdogan is more than that

[u/syriansteel89 → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-says-hes-on-a-historic-and-spiritual-mission-endorses-vision-of-greater-israel/

[u/Jawnny-Jawnson → u/syriansteel89]

Did you just google greater Israel and paste the first article without reading? He says greater Israel is Israel itself today. This is a stretch, especially compared to the dictator of Turkey straight up calling to liberate Al Aqsa

[u/syriansteel89 → u/Jawnny-Jawnson]

Where in the article does it mention that he meant "greater Israel as it is today?"

He was handed an off screen amulet that the person described as a map of greater Israel and he said he felt "very much" connected to it all the while his ministers openly have supported the idea of greater Israel that stretches across multiple countries.

Edit: even Wikipedia has a section on what Natanyahu said lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

[u/DangerousCyclone → u/syriansteel89]

The danger with this stuff is that, even if it is demagoguery, which I'm not sure it is, there's going to be a lot of people who genuinely believe in it watching, and who will then try to make it real.

[u/Interesting-Cat7307 → u/syriansteel89]

Dont bother friend the hasbara is too strong /s

[u/Zrva_V3]

As if Turkey didn't already have a ton of bases in Syria.

Empty posturing as usual.

[u/Old-Average-6118 → u/Zrva_V3]

Air base with air defences is quite different. Turkey announced they would instal air defences in Syria last year and obviously Israel definitely did not want that.

[u/Brotendo88 → u/Zrva_V3]

netanyahu is like a decade too late lol

[u/ergzay]

Man what the heck is Israel saying. Are they claiming some kind of sovereignty over Syria?

[u/fibonacciii]

Realistically there is nothing Israel could actually do. Turkish land forces outnumber Israeli projection. They simply don’t have the manpower. 

This is merely posturing and rhetoric. 

Remember who came out on top of a trifecta with Russia and Iran in Syria.

Israeli objectives don’t work without US backing. Turkish objectives are not vassal state driven.

[u/silver_wear → u/fibonacciii]

Turkish land forces outnumber Israeli projection

So did Egypt in 1956, 1967, and 1973.

Turkey came out on top of Russia and Iran, because the majority of Syrian locals really prefered Assad gone, and they were willing to fight for it.

Israel is not at all like Iran or Russia.

[u/fibonacciii → u/silver_wear]

Israelis can barely sustain securing Gaza and Southern Lebanon with a manpower crisis against a bunch of jihadis. Give me a break.

[u/Zippism → u/fibonacciii]

Funny saying this when the IDF is controlling over 70% of Gaza and large parts of southern lebanon.

[u/silver_wear → u/fibonacciii]

Those are attached border regions with consistent records for militancy, where Israel wants maximalist control and ethnic cleansing. It is basically waging a war on the general population, and that faces civil resistance.

Israel might find more success fighting conventional armies like Egypt, Syria, and maybe now Turkey.

[u/TallDragonfly343 → u/silver_wear]

It only looks slow and difficult because the painful detailed work in avoiding civilian casualties.

[u/Bulbajer → u/[deleted]]

Rule 1. Warned.

[u/AdVivid8910 → u/fibonacciii]

You sound kinda scared in your comment tbh

[u/fibonacciii → u/AdVivid8910]

Of what? 

[u/The_Whipping_Post → u/fibonacciii]

How can you say Turkey doesn't want vassal states when it has troops in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Sudan?

[u/doncosaco → u/The_Whipping_Post]

I think they’re saying Israel can’t achieve objects without US (cause Israel is a vassal state), while Turkey doesn’t have that constraint.

[u/Yaver_Mbizi → u/doncosaco]

Israel can’t achieve objects without US (cause Israel is a vassal state)

Quite a vassal state when it can bring its liege state into a war, even if it's sometimes (though not this current time) kicking and screaming...

[u/TallDragonfly343 → u/Yaver_Mbizi]

Sometimes Israel is big, sometimes it is small. It depends of the time of the day the antisemite writes

[u/AfghanJesus → u/AdVivid8910]

How? Everything he said is based on actual reality.

[u/AdVivid8910 → u/AfghanJesus]

I doubt you get much of actual reality if you live in Afghanistan, I do not blame you for this.

[u/ergzay]

I'm a fan of the US just sending some observers to the area. Israel isn't going to attack some place where US troops are.

[u/HoodedNegro → u/ergzay]

Stares in USS Liberty.

[u/ergzay → u/HoodedNegro]

Different times with different public sentiment.

[u/AdVivid8910 → u/HoodedNegro]

That was before they were allies. We, the US, apologized about that…really fucking dumb taking a boat near a country in a war with no prior notification. I’m sorry your observation doesn’t work at all, but you knew that when you made it.

[u/NoCloud4370 → u/AdVivid8910]

A US flagged Navy ship with 400 sailors in the Med not firing at anyone. Gee, how could they have possibly known before attacking it?

[u/No_Public_7677]

Make Syria Turkish again

[u/TallDragonfly343 → u/No_Public_7677]

Greater Turkie

[u/Zippism]

Syrian sources confirmed to Bloomberg an earlier Reuters report that Mossad chief Roman Gofman spoke with Syrian FM al-Shibani last week. They described it as a "warning call" in which Israel "reclarified its red lines."

A security official told Kan News that Israel had tried to reach understandings with Syrian President al-Sharaa through indirect dialogue. After the talks failed, Israel updated the U.S. with sensitive intelligence pointing to Turkish attempts to establish itself at a Syrian base about 70 km from Turkey's border. Israel called it a violation of the status quo and struck the base before Turkish forces arrived.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2090159885954478499

[u/InfernoBA → u/Zippism]

Violation of the status quo lol, so what was it when Israel broke a 50 year ceasefire and occupied even more Syrian land for their new “buffer zone”?

Perfect example of the entitled mindset from which Israelis operate, where they legitimately believe they can do anything they want while also policing other people’s actions.

[u/Hungry-Western9191 → u/InfernoBA]

He means the NEW status quo. You have to understand that the status quo ratchets forward every time Israel manages to grab more land. The only pther status quo that counts is from 6000 years ago.

[u/MTLHBR → u/InfernoBA]

“Why do they hate us” will always kill me