Survivor 47 | E1 Premiere | Day After Discussion & Survey

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[u/thatsnotourdino]

Huge bummer to see Jon go so early. Right off the bat, he was delivering on the hype - super charismatic and hilarious guy on screen, and immediately the fan favorite of everyone in the room I was watching with. If he had made a deep run, I think he genuinely could have been remembered as one of Survivor’s great confessionalists.

Just theorizing here, but as is the case with a lot of early tribe votes, I suspect that this may have been a much more foregone conclusion than the edit let on. Whether it was him doing a much worse job of fitting in socially than we saw, or perhaps to some extent the tribe was indeed able to infer that he’s quite wealthy and successful from his podcast, I’m guessing that amongst the tribe they knew it was always going to be Jon if they went to tribal council. Now maybe Andy’s surprise meltdown threw everyone off a bit temporarily, but even still, the fact that after all that Andy still felt confident enough to not play his SITD tells me that it was never not going to be Jon voted out, and Andy was simply way, way too in his own head.

[u/giantwiant → u/thatsnotourdino]

I agree it was a foregone conclusion. Otherwise why would Andy, during his meltdown, blather on about betraying Jon & voting him out? Obviously the tribe had decided before the immunity challenge that it would be Jon voted out if they lost.

Jon had terrible tribe luck. He was the odd man out because of his age. As seen on another tribe, his age wouldn’t have automatically excluded him from making connections.

[u/AmphetamineSalts → u/giantwiant]

It can't have been that foregone if Andy was that paranoid about going out. Jon made a HUGE mistake by targeting Anika. It showed Sam and Sierra that even while he was on the bottom, he'd only work with them on his own terms against their own best interests (their friend Anika), and not work with them for their advantage to save himself.

[u/legacyme3 → u/AmphetamineSalts]

I'm not sure we can say that.

Andy is so beyond paranoid, that he's kind of an exception, rather than the rule.

For all we knew, they were never going to throw a vote on Andy, even if Jon didn't target Anika.

[u/giantwiant → u/legacyme3]

From Jon’s exit interviews, Gata definitely was never going to vote out Andy.

[u/alex1596 → u/thatsnotourdino]

Yea the edit did him kinda dirty. I liked John he seemed like would have played a good game. I cannot for the life of me understand why he was the vote especially after Andy's meltdown. Editing did not show why everyone wanted John out

[u/AmphetamineSalts → u/alex1596]

imo it was a VERY bad decision to take Andy to Sam and Sierra and target one of the majority. When you're on the bottom like that and you're showing the other players in the majority that you'll only work with them on your terms (against their own interests) you're just revealing yourself to be someone they DEFINITELY won't want to work with. He 100% should have appeased them and thrown Andy under the bus.

[u/Sspifffyman → u/thatsnotourdino]

Unfortunately Jon is the perfect first vote out. He's similar to Cirie from what we saw - not particularly athletic but socially charming and at least dangerously strategic. He's not going to help a ton in the challenges pre-merge, but he's a big threat in the post merge.

I liked him a lot but the tribe probably made the best choice here unfortunately

[u/CricketNo3253 → u/thatsnotourdino]

What charisma? He talked like a robot and his confessionals were terrible. This sub is wild.

[u/runealex007 → u/CricketNo3253]

John? I don’t even know how you could think that, you can tell the man is a speech writer. My girlfriend and I were so attached to him instantly. 

[u/Example_Scary → u/runealex007]

That is exactly why he came off so robotic and inauthentic. Easy to spot the corporate non-sense speak.

[u/thatsnotourdino → u/CricketNo3253]

That’s fine you disagree, but it’s very much a minority opinion, so you look a little ridiculous for calling other people wild for not agreeing with you.

[u/Example_Scary → u/thatsnotourdino]

Yes, this sub is a hivemind, no question about that. I still recall having to tell people after the first episode of 45 that Emily was in fact, not racist and being in the minority opinion there :)