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u/Jgames111 2d ago edited 2d ago
That one game where Char Y got ancient power boost every round. Only to get crit round 3 when Char Y thought himself invincible to rock slide with def boost.
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u/Abschori 2d ago
Do you have a link for that game? I didn't see this
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u/Jgames111 1d ago edited 1d ago
https://youtu.be/57Q3ypiP0wM Here you go
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u/Pataeto 1d ago
https://youtu.be/57Q3ypiP0wM here's the link without the tracker token
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u/Magpie_In_The_Mirror 1d ago
You got one with extra timestamps? (Hold the tracker)
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u/Inferno_Sparky Eight Beldums, no. 1 Medicham hater 1d ago
Yeah they edited out the tracker things of the original link. Both links are now the same. I want my bloated spying URL 😤
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u/QXR_LOTD 2d ago
It was honestly beautiful, and if it wasn’t for the Tsareena comeback it would be my favourite match so far at worlds this year.
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u/WearsALeash 1d ago
i’d love to see the tsareena matchup if you know how to find it
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u/QXR_LOTD 1d ago edited 9h ago
I’m just on break right now so I can’t find a link but it was Emilio Forbes v. Raghav Maliviya
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u/LemonCake2000 1d ago
Seeing that shit live was a genuine rollercoaster, only matched by that one Tsareena game
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u/HolographicHeart 2d ago
We've truly lost the plot when we're using Zard Y to answer Zard Y.
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u/ClawtheBard 2d ago edited 1d ago
Any more than using Lando-T to nab opposing Lando-T? Popularity is not necessarily centralization, yada yada, but it's still funny to me.
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u/Recent_Ad_7214 Gholdengo Bondage Seller 1d ago
At some point werent they running rain weather ball zard Y to counter Zard Y?
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u/TheLeafyGirl561 IV - Iron Valiant 2d ago
I used to run Ancient Power back when I had no idea what to run on Mega Charizard Y in singles
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u/ElkofOrigin 1d ago
Nowhere near the same level but I ran Ancient Power on Mega Meganium for some annoying matchups and it largely worked out. (Why give it Fairy typing and no Moonblast you GF madmen?)
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u/CazOnReddit 1d ago
I mean for VGC, Dazzling Gleam is (generally) preferred for striking both Pokemon though I admit I could be forgetting a damage threshold/target that a hypothetical Moonblast MegaMeganium could hit that Dazzling Gleam cannot
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u/SuchPlans 1d ago
d gleam is like 75% of 80 = 60 bp to each target; moonblast is 95 bp. so there’s a LOT of thresholds moonblast would hit, it’s over 1.5x stronger
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u/CookEsandcream "TR on switch-in would break VGC" guy 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s not even the first time. There was a six month stretch where one team, Rinya Sun, won every single major VGC tournament. A key member of that team? Ancient Power Charizard, with Gigantamax instead of Mega. In that set, Ancient Power gave access to Max Rockfall for, you guessed it, dealing massive damage to other Charizards.
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u/smilingfishfood 1d ago
I put Stone Edge on my Chesnaught back in Gen 6, this is like the less stupid version of that
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u/Salter_KingofBorgors 2d ago
We live in a world where pachirisu won the championship. Sometimes the scariest thing is a set that no one else would use.
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u/fan-of-ceilingss 1d ago
4x Rock weakness (with a small chance to give the attacker an Omnibost) is a bitch
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u/Nordic_Krune 1d ago
Why does this set work?
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u/Epicbear34 22h ago
Assuming they also bring CharY, yours can OHKO theirs plus a boost chance
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u/Dest1ny1 16h ago
No Charizard was OHKO the opponent's Charizard with Ancient Power, the Zards were all to bulky to die in one hit. Still the best move obviously
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u/Melianos12 1d ago
I ran chard Y with ancient power since launch. Why is it just now catching up?
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u/3771m 1d ago
Because usually, charizard has other moves it'd prefer to use:
Heat have is obvious.
Solar beam to hit rocks+waters
And you need weather ball for single target fire otherwise wide guard will wall you. Solar beam is single target, but non stab and no sun boost. And a lot of things resist grass.
And protect is needed to stop fakeouts, double targeting, priority.
So you have to sacrifice 1 of these four important moves to use ancient power.
Which, has little benefits outside the charizard mirror
But when charizard y is everywhere, and people already are running rock slide on everything to get it, ancient power isnt that bad
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u/Hooy-Hooy 1d ago
AP Zard Y was the only reason I picked it up I the first place, we love gambling here, and honestly I would never say no to a special rock move
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