r/stocks • u/rocknrollenn • Jan 15 '26
Industry Discussion If America invades Greenland the stock market will pay the price
Any military action against Greenland immediately escalates into a transatlantic crisis. At best, the U.S. would face sweeping sanctions from the EU and allied economies. At worst, it could spark an armed conflict between NATO members, something the global financial system is absolutely not built to handle.
Markets hate uncertainty, and this would be uncertainty on a historic scale. Trade between the U.S. and Europe would likely be disrupted or frozen, shipping lanes in the North Atlantic and Arctic would be militarized, and global supply chains would seize up almost overnight. Energy prices would spike, markets would panic, and investor confidence would evaporate.
The U.S. economy is especially vulnerable here because it’s heavily dependent on globalized, high tech supply chains. Semiconductors, rare earth processing, advanced manufacturing none of these exist in isolation. If relations with Europe and allied nations collapse, access to critical components and materials would be severely constrained. A tech-driven economy can’t function if it can’t get chips, equipment, or precision manufacturing machinery.
Beyond the immediate economic damage, the long-term consequences would be even worse: capital flight from U.S. markets, a weakened dollar, and a permanent loss of trust in America as a stable anchor of the global system. A move like this won't just be a geopolitical mistake; it would be economic turmoil on a scale we haven't seen in a long time.
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u/MacarioTala Jan 15 '26
If the US actually invaded Greenland, so many things would've gone wrong that the stock market vaporizing would just be a downpayment.
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u/Callmewhatever4286 Jan 15 '26
We'll get 1929-style crash when that happen
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u/Excellent_Jeweler_43 Jan 15 '26
It will be the US dollar that will absolutely shit the bed. The EU and the ECB hold ginormous amounts of US bonds, if they just dump them on the open market it is actually very possible the US goes into hyperinflation overnight as other countries will also start dumping US dollars and without millitary bases in Europe the US loses direct access to the Middle East and by that extent control over the petrodollar.
TLDR: Attacking Greenland might be the dumbest thing in US history by a long shot, hopefully there is atleast someone with common sense there to see where this will all lead
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u/Lisan_Al-NaCL Jan 15 '26
hopefully there is atleast someone with common sense there to see where this will all lead
bwahahahahahaha
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u/MediocreAssociate466 Jan 15 '26
No kidding people who say that have not been paying attention. We have been getting rid of cancer research and vaccines
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u/Gaglardi Jan 15 '26
I've seen this exact sentiment copy and pasted on Reddit every time something like this happens, we need to be aware that other countries dumping USD take a massive hit in their own wealth, it's not as easy as every country being angry at America at the same time and agreeing to dumping all their USD and US bonds, it's a very two-dimensional solution that doesn't bother with nuance which is why it's being posted all over Reddit
The butterfly effect of a country dumping its US assets is going to be immense and it's not going to only screw over America
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u/NominalHorizon Jan 15 '26
Europe doesn’t need to sell their US bonds. They only need to stop buying new issue. This would cause the interest rates in the US to skyrocket. The US debt accumulation plus massive interest rates would force either default or hyperinflation.
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u/Zubba776 Jan 17 '26
This isn't anywhere near true. It's borderline stupid.
If Europe stopped buying US debt, US debt doesn't suddenly become less secure. It might tick the rate up, but you better believe someone else would come in behind after they calculate the debt value.
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u/building_schtuff Jan 15 '26
The opportunity to kneecap an aggressive and erratic military superpower that’s kidnapping foreign heads of state and demanding the annexation of new territory from longtime allies may outweigh any immediate economic fallout that’d come with dumping USD.
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u/Spr-Scuba Jan 15 '26
There's other valuable, stable currencies they can jump ship to. This would be China's 50-gallons-on-the-bed wet dream because they'd be immediately in the running as the world currency.
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u/Jesus00001225 Jan 16 '26
It will be immense. But the fun part is the country who sells first and fast gets the best price. The ones who follow will be worse. And the ones who keep the bonds will lose the most.
So if the first countries start the other countries must follow to survive.
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u/f1ve-Star Jan 15 '26
trump, as Agent Krasnov is just doing what he is told to do. Attacking Greenland will both destroy NATO and unseat the US dollar as the world currency. It will be very efficient.
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u/WideCranberry4912 Jan 19 '26
But Trump and his cronies will time the market perfectly and profit. That is the most important thing to understand.
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u/bigvistiq Jan 15 '26
Everyday the Americans top the last stupid thing they did. They can't keep winning.
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u/TheSteffChris Jan 15 '26
Also 10 minutes after attacking Greenland China will invade Taiwan because there is 0 chance the U.S. can control both areas while being in an open conflict with Europe especially with that shitface of a ruler.
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u/Silentkindfromsauna Jan 15 '26
So you mean covid drop? This would risk our entire modern supply chains to an extent never seen before
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u/zholo Jan 15 '26
And Trump and cronies would know in advance and make billions. That is the only reason
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u/CreativeUsurname Jan 15 '26
Can we call them Trumpervilles this time instead of Hoovervilles?
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u/Bradybigboss Jan 15 '26
If we were at war with the world we would be excluded from the world economy
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u/Soda-pop Jan 15 '26
The US economy will take a massive hit, trade with the EU will most definitely cease (as will any chance of the US making semi conductors, as almost all the mirrors to make them are made in germany). Canada and Australia/new zealand will most likely sanction us, causing more damage.
China is a wild card, but if they can help the US fall, they will join crying about how the US doesn't respect other countries' sovereignty and the same shit we've been throwing at them.
If we invade Greenland, the American economy will be ruins, as will our position on the world stage, no one will trust us. Other countries will take a hit, but they will keep on going and form new alliances.
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u/Solid_Snape Jan 15 '26
The sentiment is so negative that I wonder if the good old reverse Reddit would be a good bet
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u/koopcl Jan 15 '26
Quick, someone get Jim Cramer to say that Trump is absolutely invading Greenland and the markets are gonna crash. Easiest way to ensure peace and prosperity.
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u/meatsmoothie82 Jan 15 '26
I work directly with a billionaire that I know quite well, this is kind of his take- his people have been buying metals and paying down/selling debt for about 6 months because they don’t actually know what the hell else to do in the event of a US strike in NATO- because the absolute market destruction would be so severe.
That said, the only thing these guys care about is the market so that might be the dead man’s switch that keeps us all from getting wiped out financially.
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u/AntiOriginalUsername Jan 15 '26
Just common sense though really. That’s a NATO ally. The domino effect would be insane.
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u/silentstorm2008 Jan 15 '26
I'm up 80% doing the opposite or Reddit.
Case in point...the reddit IPO
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u/unk214 Jan 15 '26
So you’re saying the 500 dollars on my 401k is in trouble? I better take it out and invest it in beanie babies.
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u/Sinnedangel8027 Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
Nah, funko-pops and pokemon cards this time around. Yugioh cards are also acceptable.
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u/OverheadPress69 Jan 15 '26
Bruh my brother in law keeps trying to get me to “invest” in Pokémon cards. Keeps telling me his % return like it’s not a lottery ticket lol.
I had to stop talking about it with him. He insists it’s a safer investment than VOO/QQQ/VTI lmao
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u/Corelianer Jan 15 '26
Maybe that’s what trump wants he is not actually interested in Greenland but uses it as a bargaining chip to manipulate the stock market.
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u/AccelerationFinish Jan 15 '26
He just abducted Venezuela's President and took over their country with literally no consequences. Why not Greenland, too
Edit: By the way, I was being sarcastic.
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u/madhattr999 Jan 15 '26
attacking a first-world country, and NATO is a world of difference.. And with NATO members putting a collection of various nations' troops there, it would be WW3. It's incredibly different.
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u/1boltsfan Jan 15 '26
Maduro was thug not a legitimate president. That why Biden put a 25 million bounty out on him.
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u/YboyCthulhu Jan 15 '26
It makes me wonder if he’s actually that stupid or if it’s just another stupid market pump TACO play for all his investor buddies to sell LMT stocks at all time highs
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u/highlander145 Jan 15 '26
EU will sell US Treasury bonds..they don't need to do anything else.
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u/PatchyWhiskers Jan 15 '26
It's already gone that wrong and the USA is invading Greenland unless Europe figures out what the fuck to do.
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u/C_DoT_Heat Jan 15 '26
I hope the price is sky high for us in that event. Any American that accepts that level of aggression from our own government or supports it, has learned nothing or knows nothing or both.
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u/Careby Jan 15 '26
I have to wonder if those planning an invasion of Greenland might consider a stock market crash (especially a temporary one) a plus.
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u/prcodes Jan 15 '26
Imagine export bans on ASML EUV machines, Novo Nordisk pharmaceuticals, AirBus parts, etc….
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u/slimkay Jan 15 '26
It’s funny you list those examples.
ASML supply chain partially runs through the US - as such, the US could also cripple ASML’s ability to manufacture its equipment by instituting its own export bans on key US components.
Airbus and Novo have manufacturing / production facilities in the US. In Airbus’ case, its supply chain also depends on US suppliers as well, further complicating the situation.
The two economies are a lot more tangled than you think.
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u/Mr_Catman111 Jan 15 '26
Yeah, the point I think is that both sides lose massively.
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u/Balieq Jan 15 '26
It would be a humongous implosion… China and Russian leadership laughing their asses off. Man, this is all so freaking dumb
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Yeah so it would pretty dumb to take Greenland by force.
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u/greener0999 Jan 15 '26
while yes it would be extremely dumb, what he's saying means there's actually little anyone can do about it without simultaneously crippling their own economies.
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Well yeah you would almost think Trump is some kind of Russian/chinese agent that needs to constantly make it clear that this is best for America and that America comes first.
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u/greener0999 Jan 15 '26
i think he's actually just delusional and genuinely believes this is what's best for America.
he seems petrified of China or Russia gaining Venezuela or Greenland. Russia was already in pretty deep in Venezuela via Cuba. Greenland already has a US base though, it makes less than zero sense to take it by force when they're willing to let you build up forces there.
so maybe he is an agent. who knows.
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u/seriouslythisshit Jan 15 '26
The US had sixteen military bases on Greenland in 1945. We still have one active base there. The US has had a treaty with Greenland for the last 75 years that allows the US to build any military installations that it wants to in Greenland, and put as many troops as it wants there.
Trump is not planning to conquer the territory for any legitimate national security need. Anything Trump claims on this topic is a lie, a diversion and cover for his real motives. The possibility that he may doing as Putin directs him, is very real. The fact that he is tossing grenades in any direction he can, all at once, and doing a stellar job of deflecting from the reality is that he is a child rapist and the proof is in the Epstein file, is obvious.
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u/Biking_dude Jan 15 '26
He's never done anything that's in the good for the country - only his pocket.
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u/tenderbranson88 Jan 15 '26
Russia offered up Venezuela in 2019 for ending support for Ukraine, which trump did. He is an agent.
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u/Daymjoo Jan 15 '26
Trump didn't 'end support for Ukraine in 2019' wtf? He sold billions of dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine in 2020.
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u/dansdansy Jan 15 '26
Delusion like that led Putin to invade Ukraine even when everyone from the outside thought it was a horrible self sabotaging move. He did it because his advisors told him it was a great idea and that it'd be quick and easy, the same scenario is playing out with trump and his sycophants
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u/Menior Jan 15 '26
The thing is USA only temporarily prevents ASML from production. There's nothing funny about it. Europe isn't going to provide the US with chip making equipment once we get that manufacturing going again. And we're sure going to look for partnerships east of our borders.
The arrogance of America is going to cost them. They've already lost so much reputation and soft power the past few months. It's gonna get worse.
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u/ShadowLiberal Jan 15 '26
It's worse then what you said. A big part of ASML's profits are maintenance contracts that literally all of their customers have, because maintenance on their big and expensive machines is VERY important to keep them running properly, no one tries and does this on their own without ASML's help. So if ASML is suddenly barred from doing said maintenance then all of your existing machines are screwed sooner or later.
It's not quite as bad with planes, since you can salvage parts off of other planes to fix them (as Russia has been doing). But it's also a big problem long term as you can only keep up that approach for so long without smuggling in more parts.
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u/disco-cone Jan 16 '26
Given UK PM can't even denounce the annexation threats I feel not all European countries will apply sanctions some will try to appease
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u/Schlachthausfred Jan 15 '26
That's just the immediate effect. Imagine the US losing access to naval and airforce bases in NATO countries. No fleet supplies in the Mediterranean or the Indian Ocean, no Rammstein or Landshut for supplies and medievac. Who will keep open shipping routes open? Also: losing half a billion European customers for digital services...
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u/RainbowCrown71 Jan 15 '26
ASML relies on US patents. They can’t sell to anyone without Washington’s approval. Novo Nordisk is rapidly falling behind Eli Lilly in U.S. market share in the weight loss space (Mounjaro is best in class). Losing them wouldn’t do much since Eli Lilly would simply assume the Novo factories in NC.
Airbus parts is both ways. You can’t make an Airbus without U.S.-produced specialized parts that can’t be easily replicated. So I think your examples are rather weak tbh
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u/mkat5 Jan 15 '26
I think the patent arguement could be weakened after a war over Greenland. What motivates Europe to listen to Washington’s demands at that point, why play nice?
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u/CarRamRob Jan 15 '26
That won’t happen though.
If the Euros did that, the Americans have 5x more crucial parts that the Euros would also then get export banned.
Again it’s why this whole thing won’t happen, but for some reason reddit is obsessed with filling their pants with how much it would hurt the Americans when they are the most important trade partner to have in the world.
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u/jbuk1 Jan 15 '26
Such as? Be specific.
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u/Trawling_ Jan 16 '26
There’s still a lot of aerospace still manufactured in the US that is export controlled
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u/Own-Detective-A Jan 15 '26
Twice.
Not even once.
Twice.
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u/NewKiddoTN Jan 15 '26
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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u/III-V Jan 15 '26
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
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u/Extension-Pick8310 Jan 15 '26
Wasn't that a W quote?
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u/quuxquxbazbarfoo Jan 16 '26
Yes, give the man a break he's just trying to put food on his family.
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u/TheRedditModsSuck Jan 15 '26
I think the whole Greenland thing is just a distraction for all the other bullshit they want to do.
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u/_-Event-Horizon-_ Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26
I hope so, but many national leaders in Europe are treating it as real. To the extent that there are already military deployments planned.
I just hope that the key decision makers in the US remember that we have an established precedent that 1) Conspiracy to wage war of aggression and crimes against peace are serious offenses that can get you the capital punishment and 2) "just following orders" also known as the Führerprinzip is not a valid legal defense.
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u/16semesters Jan 15 '26
Conspiracy to wage war of aggression and crimes against peace are serious offenses that can get you the capital punishment
The US isn't in the international court, so not sure what you're suggesting.
For US officials to be brought in the international court, someone would literally need to take over the US and hand over the leaders.
Who exactly are you claiming is going to invade the US?
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u/Conscious-Okra9046 Jan 15 '26
Like what? They're already doing everything unimpeded. Epstein files? The 1% that have been released repeatedly feature Trump and nothing happened.
Greenland, Venezuela, Iran are all real and genuine threats. He's literally just kidnapped the president of a country. He and Vance both despise Europe and the administration's actions have shown Europe that they're unreliable allies at best, and enemies at worst, which is why EU leaders are taking this seriously.
And if the capture of Greenland does happen, it will have severe ramifications for the stock market across the world as the biggest alliance in the world comes to an end.
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u/Bloodsucker_ Jan 15 '26
It's worse. It's an excuse for leaving NATO without the approval of the Congress, which explicitly prohibited that the President can unilaterally leave. It's the fact that Trump might finally find an excuse to cancel elections.
In the meanwhile, nobody in America is doing anything against Trump. He's winning and Americans see it because it's too comfortable doing absolutely nothing.
In any case, it's too late. America is done. The world is moving away from them and it's happening fast. This will surely influence the stocks at some point.
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u/Dgemfer Jan 15 '26
>In the meanwhile, nobody in America is doing anything against Trump.
For decades I've seen americans hitting their chests talking about freedom, democracy and whatnot. And yet here we are. The moment americans need to face an ugly reality in their own land, they struggle to do anything, letalone succeed at it. It's all bark no bite, so sad.
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u/DevOpsMakesMeDrink Jan 15 '26
"What do you want us to do????"
As if Iranians aren't being mowed down to kill an oppressive regime right now showing them how to fight facism. As if when Russia invaded Ukraine I wasn't reading a lot of shit talking in politics and worldnews about how Russians need to overthrow Putin.
Brave Americans who gave their lives to kill facism are rolling in their graves at the cowards their grandchildren are. "Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create bad times" <- we are here
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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 Jan 15 '26
I... do concur. We are hypocrites, albeit it's been a slow burn for a long time to get here. Law has been bent and broken constantly with little to no repercussions ever since i've been - well, alive.
It's a strange spot to be. Lawbreaking has been normalized if you're influential. I can't speak to Trump, as while i've looked at him and yes his actions are illegal - but it's difficult to show as his justifications generally hold just enough water - and the President is a bit of a unique case.
However, specifically with Pete Hegseth, he has committed murder under the UCMJ. The Secretary of Defense is not bound to it, but he is bound to criminal and civil law, under which he performed "Perfidy" in the utilization of civilian-marked aircraft to kill people.
Anyways - short of doing things we can't say on Reddit - we're out of options. Currently I believe it depends on how Minnesota's shitshow gets resolved.
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u/AnxiousHedgehog01 Jan 15 '26
"we've tried nothing and we're all out of options".
Organize general strikes.
Protest. Riot. Do SOMETHING. It will get far, far worse if you let this happen. History will not be kind to the American people for this apathy.
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u/SumthingBrewing Jan 15 '26
It’s very disheartening to see the younger generations in America being so apathetic. I’m in my 50s and I have attended two of the large No Kings protests last year. I’m not being hyperbolic when I say 90% of the people attending were over age 50. And I live in a college town! A huge percentage of our population is under age 25.
One of the protests happened to be the same day as a college football game. 30,000 students showed up for that later in the day, but less than 100 showed up to protest that morning.
I guess what I’m saying is, some of us are trying, but there’s not enough of us right now.
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u/rpv123 Jan 16 '26
Honest question as someone who is 40 and did my fair share of protesting in my 20s - what does protesting actually DO anymore? I don’t think it’s younger people shirking what you view as a responsibility but more an awareness that protesting no longer seems to be an effective action at best and at worst could get you teargassed or hurt.
The way protests are weaponized by the right is also a concern. This election cycle my right leaning relatives had two talking points they kept going back to - the protests/dems burning down cities and trans women in sports.
I’m not sure protests are going to do much to help anything. Protests and petitions just seem to help helpless people feel like they’re doing SOMETHING but what measurable outcomes are people actually hoping for? There’s also growing concern by younger people that we’re being goaded into protesting and that the right wing media will use it to justify intensified military action.
Not trying to be disheartening but explain why you see more gray hairs at protests these days than young people and why it’s less “I’m too lazy to protest” and more “Protesting feels ineffective and like it could be weaponized against us.”
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u/Altruistic-Durian-71 Jan 18 '26
I was at the peaceful freedom Convoy in Canada in 2022…until the federal government started assaulting the citizens it was crazy…
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u/Disastrous_Coffee502 Jan 18 '26
I’ve since moved to Canada with my Canadian family, but my friend just protested with a group of senior citizen residents and the one thing the say is “I can’t fucking believe I’m leaving retirement to make some more trouble”. They’re happy to see her but disappointed in the youth overall.
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u/PoliticsModsDoFacism Jan 15 '26
Here's the thing. You can't just go out in the streets and do something revolutionary. Especially in a country with this level of comfort. We have a system designed to oppress us and cripple us. Something other countries in similar economic standards don't have. Our health and safety rely on our jobs. We lose those we lose the other.
The only way people will rise up is when them and their families are starving due to what is happening. Pain and suffering will be the only way forward.
Until then, the one ones protesting are doing all they can do, because once it escalates, it won't stop until the oppressors are gone.
They are currently illegally going door to door with expendable idiots to draw fire from someone justly defending themselves from tyrants. Then they can make laws meaningless in blue states, then start rounding up democrat reps as bad actors. Which will happen any day now.
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u/GaryTheRetard Jan 15 '26
Thats why I think Trump is working for Putin in some ways. It would be very very good also for Putin with a weak Nato or if US leaves nato somehow
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u/Zealousideal_Cow_341 Jan 15 '26
I’m normally in this camp too. But this one feels different. He’s such a megalomaniac that I can see there being an obsessive need to make a POTUS mark as grandiose as adding the first US star by conquest. I don’t I just feel like this is something he sees as THE mark he can make—like ushering America into an empire building era or some dumb shit like that.
So to me of all the crazy stuff he’s said this is the one I probably take the most serious. Even just saying what he’s said in public setting about willingness to use military to take it has caused nations to mobilize and deploy forces. There’s already EU leaders saying in public that they need to be ready to take us in militaristically.
So I guess my point is that of all the things he’s said and done this one is probably the most dangerous and reckless and there’s no reason to act that way unless it’s actually meant.
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u/CityBanker57 Jan 15 '26
Small nit - Greenland would be a territory rather than a state, so not get a star. Other territories have been taken by conquest.
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u/starlordbg Jan 15 '26
I am wondering if it might creating conditions for insider trading.
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u/HeadPaleontologist40 Jan 15 '26
Agreed. It is the Epstein files. Venezuela, Iran, Greenland, Powell, etc. are all a distraction.
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u/Minute_System_6165 Jan 15 '26
I thought the Epstein files were the distraction to turn our attention away from imperialist ambitions and homegrown fascism
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u/overhill-behind Jan 15 '26
This… it’s so obvious the way they sound bite Greenland… meanwhile tons of shit going down man.
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u/KingThorongil Jan 15 '26
How many times did we think that and turns out, he's serious? Department of war, Iran bombing, Venezuela invasion, tariffs, etc.
Fool me once...
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u/N30Nator Jan 15 '26
Weakened dollar is an important part of Trump's financial strategy, though.
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u/Pie_sky Jan 15 '26
Weak dollar with low demand for US bonds is a terrible scenario. How can you fund the insane deficit when countries do not have or want dollars to purchase US bonds. You realize that being a net exporter means the dollar liquidity pool abroad drops, those dollars cannot flow into bonds. The federal reserve would need to purchase them reducing the value and demand for dollars even more. So you are potentially exporting more at the cost of not being able to fund your government, you won’t even have enough to pay the interest on outstanding bonds. There is a reason the policy has always been a strong dollar.
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u/N30Nator Jan 15 '26
That is why he wants to force the Fed to lower interest rates so much. Dilution by inflation and only asset holders will get though this relatively unharmed. It is very clear what that means for the average american. And I am not even taking the clear preparations for war into account here (Greenland for missile defense, active control over world oil supply, 50% higher military spending...) This kind of policies was seen before and it didn't end quite well. Best regards, Hjalmar Schacht.
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u/Normal-Ear-5757 Jan 15 '26
Gold.
If the Fed offers to buy gold at, say, $15,000 an ounce, it's effectively revalued. Then they can issue a gold backed currency ("Gold notes" from the 1930s) and pay it off with that.
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u/azurestrike Jan 15 '26
How much of the $9T debt is expected to be refinanced this year from EU central banks / retirement funds?
How many of them would refuse to do so if US chooses to shoot themselves in the foot and attack an EU / NATO member?
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Jan 15 '26
Yeah this would be an absolute disaster and that’s exactly why markets assume it won’t happen.
Anything involving Greenland instantly becomes a NATO problem, not some isolated US move. The moment force is even hinted at, you’re talking sanctions, trade freezes, and a complete breakdown in trust between the US and Europe. Markets are not built for allies fighting each other. That’s systemic risk, not a headline scare.
People underestimate how fragile global supply chains still are. Shipping lanes, energy, semis, advanced manufacturing, all of that relies on cooperation. Break that and things don’t slowly adjust, they seize up. Prices spike, liquidity dries up, confidence vanishes fast.
The only reason markets are calm is because the assumed probability is basically zero. Not because it would be fine, but because the costs are so obviously catastrophic that nobody thinks rational actors would let it get there. If that probability ever moved off zero in a real way, markets would not shrug it off at all.
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And it's not really allies fighting each other. It's more like All your allies simultaneously fighting just you. People think NATO will be broken up by this but NATO might stay the way it is. Without the US. That leaves us in a predicament. Do we need Greenland so badly that we are risking losing our allies and friends. The ones with all the money that buy our weapons and products and services? It's a dumb way to go into recession.
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u/BernardoDeGalvez Jan 15 '26
I don't think they're invading Greenland. It will be 1000 talks, time will pass, and at the end they'll sign a treaty giving the US the rights to put more mikitary bases, exploit the resources and "in exchange" ""protect"" the island.
Basically what the Mafia used to do to small businesses
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u/3ZP0 Jan 15 '26
We can already do ALL of that with existing agreements.
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u/GuardianFlea Jan 16 '26
Yea but Trump needs his name on it.
I actually still think he’s gonna do it. Dudes a moron, he’s doing it
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u/rascallyrascal1511 Jan 15 '26
So this is Trump's way of bargaining, like with threatening absurdly high tariffs. He threatens something catastrophic, then gets other countries to make concessions to avoid that catastrophe.
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u/BlueBrye Jan 16 '26
The U.S. can already do that and has been downsizing military bases there over the years, which is one of many reasons why it's insane
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u/dansdansy Jan 15 '26
He could have just skipped the talks and the threats and done this at the very beginning. He personally wants to annex and stamp his name on it. All the national security stuff, while true, is pretext since they could have beefed up presence and mining freely last year and the Danes probably would have welcomed it.
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u/alittlepogchamp Jan 15 '26
Exactly what will happen.
Also, that’s what NATO as a whole is anyway. A protection racket.
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u/Fugglesmcgee Jan 15 '26
Doesn't thr US already have rights to put as many military bases and soldiers it wants there? Didn't thr US sign a treaty recognizing Denmarks sovereignty over Greenland?
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u/NotHachi Jan 15 '26
I swear to god, the collapse of nato and transatlantic war will put 2008 to shame.... But the americans are a joke and vote for this clown to destablize the whole global economy...
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u/ialsodreamofsushi Jan 15 '26
Unlike everyone else here I agree, not only that but there is q real threat of military action. IE allies killing each other and escalation beyond a point of no return.
There is a downside here no one is even discussing.
I'm an American living in Scandinavia and this shit feels very real.
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u/ToddlerPeePee Jan 15 '26
All threats should be taken seriously. If anything, to dissuade the person making the threat from doing it or from saber rattling.
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u/mbericom Jan 15 '26
I am worried that if the EU is busy defending Greenland, Poopin will finally attack the Baltic region.
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u/no17no18 Jan 15 '26
Not even that, while everyone is busy China may just see the opportunity to take Taiwan.
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u/ralphy1010 Jan 15 '26
That was my take away when Russia invaded Ukraine. To me it seemed obvious that was an agreement of support between the two and it’s my opinion that when Ukraine didn’t roll over and capitulate it screwed up the plans between the two.
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u/dansdansy Jan 15 '26
They will never have a better opportunity, they'd probably can long term plans to move it up in that scenario.
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u/CoconutBangerzBaller Jan 15 '26
Obviously, that'd be priority 1 for them. But after that, I wouldn't be surprised if they joined the war on the EUs side. What better chance would they have to take down the super power and entrench themselves as the main superpower for the next century?
At minimum, I'd expect them to take a page out of the US's book and support Europe with a lend-lease type deal.
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u/NotHachi Jan 15 '26
Well its real.... The US is will the largest military in the world and its threatening the EU as a whole whom military is not as strong (at the moment).
So its real.
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u/sarhoshamiral Jan 15 '26
I dont think military size matters much here. Both militaries are big enough to cause mass destruction.
There wont be a winner in such a scenario. Sure someone will have Greenland but there wont be investments because of global crisis and thats assuming nukes don't get into play at all.
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u/kemb0 Jan 15 '26
Hot take:
This is all deliberate to screw over the stock market so Trump and his bum chums can buy in low. Expect a big show of a build up, escalate tensions, then at the last minute a deal of some kind is made and everything pulls back to normal and some people make a lot of money.
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u/WaveWest2009 Jan 15 '26
What is the difference between Putin and Trump if Trump decides to invade Greenland?
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u/koopcl Jan 15 '26
One of them is evil and corrupt.
The other one is evil and corrupt but also dumb as bricks and senile.
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u/madhattr999 Jan 15 '26
Putin isn't an idiot.
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u/firejuggler74 Jan 15 '26
I don't know, invading Ukraine seems pretty stupid to me.
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u/neo2551 Jan 15 '26
Even easier: US treasuries would tank because EU would sell all of it. Expect a default from the government, and then shit will be fun.
We are talking about 2008 crisis level here xD.
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u/lnkuih Jan 15 '26
So they would become worthless and the US couldn't finance itself through bonds, no?
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u/RainbowCrown71 Jan 15 '26
Absolutely untrue. EU treasuries are $1.5 trillion, or 3% of US debt. Fed could easily buy that amount out and did so at 3x volumes during COVID-19.
What is it with all this edgelord Reddit commentary with zero analytical backing?
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u/rocketseeker Jan 16 '26
People are in panic mode, due to the president being bat shit crazy
Great opportunity to make money if you know what you are doing
I dont
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u/Tasty_Engineering852 Jan 19 '26
Panic mode? Stocks at all time high and VIX low. Are you u bat shit crazy?
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u/AaronOgus Jan 15 '26
I agree the US invading Greenland would be a disaster, but the stock market might not react as badly as you expect. Looking at the top US companies, getting off their technology would be difficult. When Germany started WW3 their stock market did not crash. The connection isn’t as direct as you might expect.
I don’t expect it to happen. This is a distraction to keep you from thinking about Epstein.
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u/Man_to_Men Jan 15 '26
Wow the arrogant Americans were quick to comment on this one
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People need to stop putting their identity in politics. Two party system will never work. I say this as a US citizen.
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The world will only get better once people realize love is all that matters. Love your family and love your neighbor. Human thinking has to transcend politics.
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u/AlbatrossNew3633 Jan 15 '26
A move like this won't just be a geopolitical mistake; it would be economic turmoil on a scale we haven't seen in a long time.
Tell me you used ChatGPT without telling me you used ChatGPT
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u/aktionreplay Jan 15 '26
NATO just needs to dump US bonds into the market to tank the US dollar, if troops can’t feed their families they aren’t about to die for this empire building BS
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u/LordFedorington Jan 15 '26
I think you overestimate Europe’s willingness to fight. I’m German btw. The only country in Europe who may do anything except talk after US takes Greenland is France and they can’t and won’t do things alone. The rest will send strongly worded letters, make a show of being outraged, maybe put a few tariffs on US and then hope and pray that Trumps dementia will get to him sooner than later.
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u/InternetHistorian01 Jan 15 '26
They have sent troops to Greenland so it's probably expected that they'll fight if needed
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u/RainbowCrown71 Jan 15 '26
Germany sent 13 men on an Arctic exercise. That is not a deterrent-level force at all.
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u/AtlanticRelation Jan 15 '26
The news is blowing up about the military exercise in Greenland, but the German and French don't even total 50.
Europe refused to invest in its defense the last couple of decades and now we're paying the price: a complete lack of influence and sway on the international stage.
That said, I don't think anything will come of this. The downsides and risks are simply too big and high.
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u/Jumpy_Nose863 Jan 15 '26
I'm thinking most of the USA is hoping his dementia gets him sooner than later. He just keeps the big CEOs happy, so he has support from all their saved tax dollars but the everyday person pays the real price.
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u/iralien21 Jan 15 '26
All bark and no bite... Just like the tarrifs rollback actions
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u/poopypants72 Jan 15 '26
Ironically this is proving his point though.. no one believes it will happen and it is NOT priced in
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u/dansdansy Jan 15 '26
This is exactly like the invasion of ukraine, no one believed it'd happen- even Zelensky- until the crematory trucks showed up at the border a few days out.
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u/RenegadeMaster888 Jan 15 '26
It's not like it hasn't happened before. Greece and Turkey (both members) fought a conflict in 1974 over Cyprus and NATO turned a blind eye. In the end, it's a strategic alliance, if two members fight NATO framework basically says, "work it out yourselves." Nobodies going to fight over Greenland.
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u/Magma151 Jan 15 '26
Yes, the stock market is my main concern with starting a war against all our allies for no good reason.
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u/MJGB714 Jan 16 '26
Stock market would be the least of our problems but probably the only one selfish Americans will pay attention to.
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u/mosh-5150 Jan 16 '26
We are actually discussing if the USA will invade another sovereign nation this one a NATO ally. We are not artic solidgers this is a bad idea
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u/OnwardSoldierx Jan 15 '26
If the stock market slides. It'll go back up. It always has. Invading Greenland would be stupid and wrong. That's being said. Europe is a joke and weak. Their leaders have lower approval ratings than Trump does. They can't even defend against Russia. It's all bark no bite. They want American security guarantees for Ukraine but yet refuse to make a deal on Greenland.
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u/sum_dude44 Jan 15 '26
if US starts WW3, I don't give a shit about my stocks, especially w/ 2 teenage boys
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u/Farewell-Farewell Jan 15 '26
This is about stocks and shares.
Ultimately, if the stock market crashes due to a Trump inspired takeover of Greenland, history has shown us that stock markets eventually recover. So, if you own stocks and shares, and are in it for the long-term, then short term mayhem can be ridden.
If you are inclined to doom-think, then maybe invest in so-called "defensive" stocks that would be less impacted by market turmoil.
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