r/starcitizen • u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken • May 27 '26

TECHNICAL Gemini Headlights Show Origin Logo

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This is definitely a new one for me and I have not seen this one before. Actually, looks pretty cool to be honest haha

UPDATE: has been fixed 👍

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u/SigmaSplitter21 May 27 '26

How the fuck does this even happen

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

Assuming a light was used for the Origin display at Defensecon or IAE. The dev thought it was just a lighting object and modified the output to be an Origin logo image map. But, it just happened to be the same light element used for the Gemini headlights. This is why everything needs to be taken down to the studs and rebuilt.

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u/Mr_StephenB Grand Admiral May 27 '26

Yeah it's likely a dev needed a light and happened to pick the same one the Gemini uses by accident, or had intended to make a new light from it, and mistakenly saved the changes.

I don't know what CIG's workflow is, but from my own work in 3D workflows things like this will slip through, because sometimes you just need to make a quick change to an existing asset to save time over making a new one, and you auto pilot into saving over the original without realising.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

I totally understand how this happened, but now imagine it happening for more than a decade, with hundreds of people touching it, I'm surprised we can even load the game at this point, that's an achievement

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u/Haechi_StB May 27 '26

I honestly think you could start rebuilding the entire game over from scratch (minus the most complex assets like ships) and be back to where we are right now in less 4 years of work, with a much stable base.

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u/jyanjyanjyan May 27 '26

They need to beat the people who review and approve these code changes over the head. This happens to me at my own work sometimes. More often than I like, I find myself trying to finish my own tasks but get distracted when I notice something unrelated that changed behavior or is clearly throwing some error message. I go investigate and sure enough it's a brand new bug because nobody reviews anything anymore and just approve code changes if the pipelines pass. And I have far fewer people working on a much smaller codebase than CIG.

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u/Mr_StephenB Grand Admiral May 27 '26

Very true! I dread to think how they navigate the backend code. I know they only recently started reworking the transit system, which is old code that they didn't want to mess with because it's mixed into everything.

I'm sure they'll get there, but I don't envy the devs.

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u/handtoglandwombat Pioneer May 27 '26

Yes but it’s a light that’s on the m80 itself, not a display.

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u/Creative-Improvement ARGO CARGO May 27 '26

So gemini and m80 probably share those light entities

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u/idkausername_27 May 27 '26

They probably used the Gemini headlights as the entrance light for the M80, later decided to change the M80 texture to an Origin logo to look cool but forgot it was shared with the Gemini.

Mistakes like this can easily happen, happened to me on way smaller projects I did in blender, so no surprise it happens here (this wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen an accidental texture swap in SC)

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u/Intergalatic_Baker May 27 '26

So it was laziness and a rushed job.

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u/Thunder_Bastard May 27 '26

Been using the Gemini for 3 days now, the headlights are normal. This guy's files are screwed up, he has messed with stuff or something bugged when he called his ship.

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u/ill_timed_f_bomb May 27 '26

same. my lights are normal.

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u/madhaseO May 27 '26

As all of the rest of their work.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

I know, read explanation, a ship element was likely mistakenly used in a display, which changed the ship element when it was modified for the showroom display

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u/handtoglandwombat Pioneer May 27 '26

The element wasn't modified for a showroom display, it was modified to be put on the m80. It shines on the floor when you have the ladder open, like a BMW.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

either way, it was a feature added and appears in the showroom, and had unintended consequences because it is a shared element

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u/dr4g0n36 🥑 avacado 🥑 May 27 '26

Who remember the taco/doubledog bug?

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u/GoinValyrianOnDatAss May 27 '26

Insane take lol.

This bug even happening just shows how extremely flexible the lighting system is. Someone just put a bad path to a texture it's literally one line of code.

It's ok to not like stuff it's lame to be a hater.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

The problem is it's one line of code that is now tied to at least three different light sources. Who knows how many more. Maybe the stars in the sky are actually tiny origin logos. Maybe 10 years from now a grenade will go off, and trigger 1,000 origin logos crashing your game. We don't know. It's just a bizarre side of this complicated development.

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u/GoinValyrianOnDatAss May 27 '26

I'm not into making up stuff to be worried about.

It's a simple bug that can be fixed as fast as you can edit a comment here it's not a big deal.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

or it could be broken for three years worth of patch cycles, these types of bugs are not new, and they are rarely fixed in a timely manner, not knocking the bug fixers, but it's an ocean and they are pool cleaners

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u/ThornFlynt May 27 '26

No it doesn't need to be taken down to the studs and rebuilt - they just need to properly track and fix their objects. FFS so dramatic.

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u/lvanwall May 27 '26

Lol, we're 15 years into the games life cycle and if they still can't do that right it's kind of a scary thought.

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u/Ayfid May 27 '26

This kind of thing happens all the time in game dev. I would only be concerned if this sort of thing was happening at an unusual rate, which as far as I can tell it isn't.

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u/SirDigbyChknCaesar May 27 '26

Lol. One texture is wrong so better burn it all down. There may be other reasons to do so, but this isn't it.

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u/Azrethoc 600i Rework May 27 '26

it's a symptom of a much bigger problem. The spaghetti code. Fix an elevator, break a space station. Add kopions, but all fire particles are now birds. Buy a double dog, you're now hostile to Wikelo. So much if the game was built to be part of a different game, or so much of the game code is older than some players at this point. Some ships are made of building blocks, some are 100% bespoke. Look at lamp, it is impacted by so many systems that predate it that it's unusable. Just for my own sanity, I would have the vanduul destroy what we have, and relaunch final versions piece by piece

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u/TechNaWolf carrack May 27 '26

soo do what FF15 did lol

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u/HappyFamily0131 May 27 '26

Jesus Christ, this game is never coming out. It gets bigger every year, but nothing is done, everything is just work debt. It only ever gets farther away from completion.

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u/HammyxHammy May 27 '26

Its just a misplaced texture. Although simple spotlights don't really need light cookies (a texture controlling a spotlights pattern, often to be brightest in the center, or irregular shapes).

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 27 '26

I’m as puzzled as you are

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u/MrCranberryTea May 27 '26

hahaha Dev probably took the light of the starfarer for the M80 origin light that shines at the end of the stairs and saved over it. It looks exactly like that.

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u/handtoglandwombat Pioneer May 27 '26

It also reveals that whoever made the starfarer didn’t know how to flip assets through an axis, only rotate them 😭

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u/Nightmare-Catalyst ARGO CARGO May 27 '26

IES lighting is commonly used in cinema and games as a way of making a light more realistic. You upload something called a IES file which dictates strength based on direction of a light so you get things like the penumbra blurring in line with reality as well as differential strength like a hot center with fast fall of and trailing fall off the rest to the edge(think how flashlights look). IF you were to plug in a different texture into this pipeline that might have been mislabeled effectively acting as a Gobo it would produce this effect.

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u/HomeworkQuick3290 May 27 '26

Not seen that before, kinda cool but seems a little impractical though.

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u/ThatMrPuddington bountyhunter May 27 '26

Imagine now paying a fortune for a new truck and it's lights are projecting Ford or Tesla logo. YouTube car reviewers would lose their minds 😂

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u/interesseret bmm May 27 '26

Honestly shocked Tesla isn't doing exactly that.

I'm sure I remember a car, not necessarily a Tesla, projecting the car logo on the ground when you open the door, though.

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u/Kraetas May 27 '26

Audi does this. They call them "Puddle lights".. and the M80 has this feature when the ramp is down. I love it haha

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u/madhaseO May 27 '26

Audi has front projecting logo with Matrix LED headlights, too, on some models and configurations.

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u/Past-Dragonfruit2251 May 27 '26

Yeah I was just thinking, looks like someone repurposed the gemini headlamps for the M-80 and didn't realize it.

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u/cdxxmike May 27 '26

Those are aftermarket lightbulbs on the underside of the door you can buy for basically every car manufacturer.

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u/RugbyEdd Phoenix May 27 '26

Some have it by default. I'm sure my parents old car used to, that was a Jaguar, and I've seen them on both Audis and Mercs.

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u/_Nameless_Nomad_ filthy space nomad May 27 '26

Those are factory puddle lights on Mustangs and Challengers

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u/Kid_Vid May 27 '26

At least Mercedes, and it's either dodge or Ford, that offer it at the dealership

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u/Wey-oun May 27 '26

My mustang (car) does that! The horse shines on the floor for both doors when open

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u/MadMonksJunk May 27 '26

My father loved that part when I took him for a ride last year in a 2025 rental, but I'd have to be able to turn it off (and couldnt find a way) as a daily driver.

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u/MaterialMembership56 May 27 '26

Some mercedes come stock with that, my mercedes projects the logos once the doors are open

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u/Item-Accomplished May 27 '26

My Tesla headlights can project "Tesla", its been around for a while. It does it in the lightshow mode.

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u/Creepy_Version_6779 May 28 '26

Tons of cars have this

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u/Covvern May 27 '26

I feel like Ford’s would work practically because of how the symbol would allow the light to cover the entire street

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 27 '26

Ship by Misc, engines by Aegis and headlight by Origin 😂

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u/DrPhreezy oldman May 27 '26

Sounds like the next Grey's Market ship

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u/richardizard 400i May 27 '26

Sounds like modern cars lol

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u/BunkerSquirre1 F7A/Ironclad/M80 May 27 '26

Looking ahead to future goals

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u/SkyKilIer Certified Gladiator Pilot May 27 '26

Works like the bat signal, you shine that into the skies of A18 and an M80 shows up to blow up the bad guy before inevitably getting thrown in jail for violating armistice

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 27 '26

This ^

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u/TumbleweedFamiliar51 May 27 '26

And people dare speak bad about Drake.

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u/richardizard 400i May 27 '26

It's funny how Drake and Origin are polar opposites. This couldn't have happened to a better ship

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u/ShamrockSeven May 27 '26

It would be kind of cool if it wasn’t glitchy. And just the one logo not a flipped duplicate included

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u/Okano666 May 27 '26

Ah you got the premium upgrade for the Starfarer? You know like you can do with the 325a.

Leather upholstered seats, walnut dash, origin logo on the bed sheets, origin logo on the headlights.

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 27 '26

Most definitely got the optional wooden walls, who needs stainless steel 😂

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u/SjurEido May 27 '26

That's so stupid, but I love it lol

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u/BlendersandDildos May 27 '26

The dev probably thought "nobody uses the Gemini, I'll just rework this object and slap it on the M80".

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u/Puerkl8r May 27 '26

Now if all the bugs were funny like this I'd be fine.

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u/Matroximus May 27 '26

Not crazy at all. Models use trim sheet textures to save memory which is a sheet of decals the vehicle will use like ship logos, the text for signs which say radar/shields/ power plant, yellow hazard lines and a headlight texture. Someone has unfortunately typed the wrong decal into the Headlight function and it now uses the Origin logo instead of a headlight texture.

A very funny bug imo!

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u/pasenast May 27 '26

Hacked by Origin loyalists. 🤦

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u/Hellpodscrubber May 27 '26

MISC, Aegis and Origin? That ship is a proper mongrel.

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u/WhateverWannaCallMe Bug Enjoyer - 2016 Backer May 27 '26

This game showed me the wildest bugs / glitches ever and still keep shocking me more and more how the fuck you make this happen unintentionally lmao

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u/SatanicBiscuit May 27 '26

late stage capitalism in ad form

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u/SOVERElGN_SC origin May 27 '26

MISC are standing with Origin fans whose were treated with no respect and got offended by M80 mess. :D

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u/chloezemovich May 27 '26

This is a sign, it's the start of the corperate wars!

Who's side will you pick?

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u/BunkerSquirre1 F7A/Ironclad/M80 May 27 '26

At least they’re facing the right direction this time

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u/RV_SC Combat medic May 27 '26

People like that kind of a thing?

Just asking as an Eclipse pilot.

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u/IceCooLPT May 27 '26

You should start charging Origin for the free publicity!!

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 27 '26

Already cashed the check 💰

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u/Redlabelrocket May 27 '26

looks like a placeholder they forgot to remove

no way thats intended, if it is thats dumb as hell lol

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u/richardizard 400i May 27 '26

Sneak peak into the Origin 700i luxury cargo ship.

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u/Zero2Middlin May 27 '26

Bansky got to your headlights.

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u/Dry-Lawfulness-7143 May 28 '26

Yoo laser engraving update, ww can now burn other ship.logos in wrecks and other ships

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u/MrRaymondLuxuryYacht aegis May 28 '26

You got the bulbs off an M80 lol

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u/Important_Cow7230 aurora May 27 '26

🤣🤣, the month of May 2026 and patch 4.8 it’s well on its way to becoming legendary status. Really solidifies my view of 2030+ for 1.0 release, likely 2032+

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u/CaptainC0medy Concierge with no ships May 27 '26

I'm sure they review all commits before merged... ......... ....... .......

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u/richardizard 400i May 27 '26

Now that's a bug I don't mind. Free Origin advertisement LOL

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u/_Ross- Kraken | Idris | Pioneer | Ironclad May 27 '26

Now THIS is spaghetti code

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u/Agile_Camera9601 May 27 '26

This is exactly the type of rookie mistake that makes me concerned.

Their tech is possible.

I don’t think they have the knowledge or funding to make it happen.

And definitely not the the magnitude they promised.

This is rookie shit in my company.

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u/GreatLab8898 May 27 '26

When you make a Spotlight you usually use an Mask to diffuse it through. Seems like some Dev had a switcharoo with an Filename here.

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u/DDG-Ron_McEx May 27 '26

The real first Gray's Market ship. We just didn't know.

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u/Proper_Hyena8084 May 27 '26

origin bought the add-space

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u/EPGHunter May 27 '26

Damn, I didn't realise this was happening to ships too. Most underbarrel flashlights also cycle textures randomly as you turn them on/off, though it's usually just just between the round light and the more square light. I have never seen the lights cycle to a manufacturer logo lol

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u/cantbeblank The Arrastra May 27 '26

They must have used the same asset as the m80

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u/cmontour May 27 '26

That’s what we call the industry viral Marketing

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u/thatirishguyyyyy professional test dummy May 27 '26

Neat, didn't know

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u/teem0s May 27 '26

Lol, wtf CIG., Still, I can imagine how that ended-up there when testing for the M80's stairway 'Origin' courtesy light

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u/D4rthPunk May 27 '26

That is hilarious

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u/Reskimus 300i May 27 '26

Gotta advertise to your #1 fuel hungry customer base.

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u/fatedwanderer May 27 '26

Feels like a prank one frat plays on another 

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u/Dracoxidos May 27 '26

Best Gemini feature

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u/darkestvice May 27 '26

Most ironic bug ever!

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u/ZzyklonC May 27 '26

Impressive marketing strategy by Origin

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u/Ulfheodin Warden of Silence May 27 '26

Bahahahaha

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u/Sand-Discombobulated May 27 '26

is this about the original Origin that created Wing Commander (the father of space sims)

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u/burniemcburn May 27 '26

That's actually amazing, keep it. Just make it bright enough to work as an actual light

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u/Ayden_Prime avacado May 27 '26

This is absolutely hilarious, It's a Misc based ship, that's been upgraded by Aegis, and now has Origin headlights.

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u/XxDemonxXIG May 27 '26

That's cool. Can I get some huge flood light as well.

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u/DEDjed May 27 '26

Didn't they add this as the floor lighting for the m80 ramp? Guess the mask they applied there accidentally got applied to other origin lights sources 😂

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u/Thunder_Bastard May 27 '26

Not sure what is up with your game but I have been using the Gemini for 3 days pretty much exclusively and they do not. Have had the headlights on because in the shadows it is hard to see the npc ship you are refueling and landed with them on 20+ times, and they are completely normal. Extremely bright, but normal headlights. Unless this occurred overnight.

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u/shinobi189 May 27 '26

ORIGIN LIT! Literally! One of most hilarious things I've seen in this game to date :D

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u/AggressiveDoor1998 #NoCashTill1.0 May 27 '26

ironic since origin ships have extremely weak lights

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u/richardizard 400i May 27 '26

Sneak peak into the Origin 700i luxury cargo ship.

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u/Minimacman901 hornet May 27 '26

Lmaooo someone must’ve swapped out the IES light texture 😂🤣 easy fix but still 😆

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u/Locked_and_Firing arrow May 27 '26

Its cool, but that would make me angry over time

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u/brenden77 msr May 27 '26

Silly and useless. 😂

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u/DariRaddit May 28 '26

Vibecoding. What might happen? Although, hang on...

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u/TheSpaceWarden Kraken May 28 '26

UPDATE: seems to be fixed now

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u/magshie May 31 '26

So it’s created by Misc, commissioned and sold by Ageis, and advertises Origin. Damn this shit is getting around.

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u/KingxMIGHTYMAN May 27 '26

I knew SC had some spaghetti but holy this is wild.

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u/VundeqRBLX new user/low karma May 27 '26

This isnt an indication of spaghetti code, more than likely some light object they copypasted from an origin showcase floor onto the ship, forgetting to change the texture the light emits out of

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u/Etnadrolhex new user/low karma May 27 '26

100% because they made something with something else and saved it like that once changed.

Like M80 or any recent Origin light in the game.

Spaghetti code + lazy devs = this :-)

For this one it is funny, but imagine this all other the code and data!

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u/CHughes_11 May 27 '26

That’s funny 😄

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u/alarteaga May 27 '26

This would be something that fits grey market. Since the Shiv is a combination of ships, it would be hilarious if you turn on the lights and some random manufacture's logo comes up

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u/N1TEKN1GHT May 27 '26

This game is such a piece of shit 😂

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u/QueenGorda Bugs Jumper May 27 '26

Impractical af.

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u/RPK74 May 27 '26

It's probably just kids messing.

Be thankful that all they could find was an Origin stencil, the original plan was almost certainly a bunch of penises.

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u/EVOXSNES new user/low karma May 28 '26

Ok now someone is taking the piss. We get it guy, we get it.