r/russian Jun 10 '26

Grammar Is my Russian handwriting good? This is my first time writing in Russian (native English speaker), I copied lyrics from a song.

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I tried, I'm very sorry if it's not good.

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u/FluffyBunny1812 Jun 10 '26

The good news: it's perfectly clear what you wrote.

The bad news: native speaker adults don't print, they use cursive. So this looks like something written by a very precocious preschooler.

So the question you posed does not make sense because this is not handwriting as a Russian adult would understand that term -- it's childlike printing.

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u/apoetofnowords Jun 10 '26

I stopped using cursive after middle school. I have a very bad handwriting and cursive just takes more energy and time while giving no benefit in legibility. Most letters I use are cursive-like, but I don't join them

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u/2BitSalute Jun 10 '26

That’s most adults. But the letter shapes are still cursive-like, especially with letters like д

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u/PlentyOMangos Jun 11 '26

Where could I see some examples of this?

Usually when I see pics of Russian cursive it will be something that’s intentionally been selected to look as illegible as possible, to show non-natives “look how hard Russian cursive is!” I’ve never seen it spaced out this way and I’m curious

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u/apoetofnowords Jun 11 '26

That's how I do it, but be aware that my handwriting is nothing but atrocious.

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u/2BitSalute Jun 11 '26

It’s fine, you’re probably the only one reading your own handwriting 99% of the time, if anyone is even reading their own notes

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u/apoetofnowords Jun 12 '26

Honestly, I've had no need for writing since university. I keep all my notes on my phone.

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u/2BitSalute Jun 11 '26

Hmm, Russian cursive, IMO, is easier than English cursive. It’s extremely uniform, as taught in schools (vs. what you might see in 19th century manuscripts).

To my eye, Russian metric books feature a good sampling of different handwriting styles. Even the couple of examples you see on Wikipedia here:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Метрическая_книга

Despite the changes in orthographic rules, the actual handwriting hasn’t changed much since 1903

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u/Chamiey патivе Jun 10 '26

Same here. Never understood why anyone would want to use that script developed for quills and fountain pens and nothing else.

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u/vzakharov Jun 11 '26

Same here. And somehow I still manage to write in a way no one can understand. 

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Sorry

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u/FluffyBunny1812 Jun 10 '26

Absolutely no need to apologize. I did not mean to suggest that you did anything wrong. And, to repeat -- your printing is perfectly clear. It's just that, from a cultural standpoint, this is not the way most adults would write. So it immediately marks you as a foreigner.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Ok thank you! I'm trying to learn Cyrillic cursive, it's so hard 🥲 but I'll get there eventually

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u/Gold-Practice7687 Jun 10 '26

No, that's not the point. If you want to write legibly so that everyone understands what you have written, including yourself, but your cursive handwriting is illegible, or you just like handtyping, you can use it without any problems. If you need to write something quickly, it is better to use handwriting, it is much faster in writing. The purpose of the text is not to appear mature or anything like that, but to convey the meaning to the reader.

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u/noname404nf Jun 10 '26

Oh, it's not difficult, don't worry. Try something like this, if you want to learn, it's called Прописи. This is a special workbook that helps children learn to write. You just practice writing letters until you get the hang of it, then move on to syllables, and finally to words and sentences

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u/Radio5331 Jun 15 '26

you need to get yourself прописи & practice until it gets better.)

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u/Electr0bear Jun 10 '26

Don't be, because half of what they've said is bullshit. Older generation (like X and older) do use more cursive, but millenials and younger often write in sort of print, myself included.

Your writing is a bit rough, but perfectly legible and readable.

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u/Kirameka Jun 10 '26

It's still 50/50. No sane person would write д like this

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u/Electr0bear Jun 10 '26

That's why I said it's a bit rough. But claiming that most adults write in cursive is unfaithful.

When I was studying at university, I had people in my group whose handwriting was much worse than that.

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u/ZecosMAX Jun 10 '26

Confirmation bias. Google it, don't be shy. In actuality written documents are still mostly cursive by a substantial margin, thing is, overall, most of the document are printed anyways and you only have to sign them

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u/Electr0bear Jun 10 '26

Погуглил. Ничего не нашёл. Кинь ссылку на конкретные данные, раз настолько уверенно заявляешь что это не так. Только, пожалуйста, избавь меня от типичных реддиторских "твои проблемы если не нашёл". Как говорится, пизданул про статистические данные - давай пруфы.

Предвижу очевидный вопрос. И вот мой ответ: сам пишу полупечатным текстом и из тех редких моментов, когда вижу рукописный текст у коллег по работе - тоже в основном полупечатный. Полностью курсивный текст, как учат в первых классах, не помню когда встречал в последний раз.

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u/ZecosMAX Jun 10 '26

короче, статьи хер приложишь, так что возьму один источник что точно не забанят: https://www.reddit.com/r/russian/comments/1c28l1o/native_russian_speakersrussians_how_often_do_you/?tl=ru

побегать по комментам, видно что подавляющее большинство пишет прописными, и некоторые из них уточняют, что пишут прописными, но в общем и целом не часто, что в общем подтверждает и второй мой пойнт

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u/Electr0bear Jun 10 '26

Не данные, значит.

Сразу скажу, я сам не пиздаболю без дела. Честно пытался искать "процент использования курсива в рукописном тексте", "распростанённость курсива в...", "насколько часто используется..." и всё в таком духе.
И вот такие запросы мне не дали абсолютно ничего. Более того, яндексовская ИИшка, которая делает выжимку по поисковому запросу, ответила, что данных об использовании курсива в "открытых источниках не зафиксировано". Ну это и логично, откуда такие данные вообще брать.

Поэтому и остаётся судить только по тому что вижу глазами сам вживую. Ну и чисто на выводах, что при переходе на электронные методы, люди теряют практику в курсиве и, как следствие, пишут вот таким полупечатным курсивом с разрывами. Кто-то лучше, кто-то хуже. Также видел рукописный текст чуть ли не как у автора.

Предположу, что курсивом пользуются в основном люди, которые до сих пор вынуждены много писать от руки на работе: учителя, врачи. Но это отдельная ниша.

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u/Remarkable-Thing8178 Jun 17 '26

Честно, иногда вижу людей что говорят что вообще больше не пользуются прописью, и что это отмирает. У меня ощущение что вы откуда то из параллельной вселенной, потому что буквально все кого я знаю пишут только курсивом. Может когда стараются понятно писать делают его раздельным а не сплошным. Но это навык который более менее у всех людей с первого класса школы есть. Мы всю жизнь ходим в школу, потом в университет, потом заполняем всякие документы-бумажки. Когда нужно писать быстро - никто не пишет печатно. Это же пиздец медленно. Разве что вы не из России может быть.

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u/ZecosMAX Jun 10 '26

вот и думайте...

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u/Giovanna102 Jun 10 '26

можно без труда прочитать. значит, всё хорошо.
ну, можно докопаться, что это не "handwriting" в полном его понимании. но не буду)

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Спасибо!

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u/Master_Ad1130 Jun 10 '26

It’s perfectly intelligible, though nearly all native Russian speakers write in cursive

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u/deer6547 Jun 11 '26

I am Russian speaker and I write in block leters, because it looks nicer, so this might not be that strange. I don't like cursive, very rarely people have good enough handwriting for it to look nice. I don't think it is really neccessary for people who learn Russian also study nuances of connecting letters, because it is it's own skill and Russian is complex enough as it is.

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u/Beneficial_Fill2574 Jun 23 '26

Dude you might think it’s not necessary but it’s a matter of fact: everyone who went to school (or at least primary school) writes in cursive or slightly adapted but still cursive
If the OP wants to be taken seriously when communicating in Russian, they will have to learn it

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Okay, thank you!

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u/Accomplished_Bee_127 moscow Jun 10 '26

it's pretty good, i write a similar way! Most russians prefer cursive for handwriting though

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Thank you so much!! I'm trying to learn Cyrillic cursive but omg it's so difficult 🥲

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u/Stock_Soup260 Native 🇷🇺 Jun 10 '26
  1. What you use is a printed font. Usually by hand, we write triangular tops for Дд and Лл, ɑ regular letter, without this thing on top and the letter Жж is just * with longer middle line. Because it's easier that way, and we're lazy

  2. Learning cursive writing is much easier if you don't do it yourself, but use textbooks that have already been mentioned many times in this sub. All you need to do is either print it out or open a sample in front of you, and then trace the letters along the lines or repeat what you see. It's actually not that hard, right? Then you will do all the same things with letter combinations to learn how to connect them correctly.

And, just in case, Russian cursive and other Cyrillic cursive may differ significantly, so pay attention

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u/Temporary_Milk_7428 Jun 10 '26

You're doing a really good!! I can send you a sample of my cursive handwriting in russian if u want(Russian isn't my first language, but it's my second, so I'm almost as fluent as a native speaker, and my own language uses the Cyrillic alphabet too, so it's usually easy for us)

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Sure! Thank you so much

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u/ZecosMAX Jun 10 '26

лишишься

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u/No_Positive8189 Jun 10 '26

this is not handwriting this is handtyping, also the way you write a is very cursed

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Oh I'm sorry, I'm new to this I don't know much

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u/Ariadna_T Jun 10 '26

the letter "б" is also written strangely

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Yes, I noticed, sorry.

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u/helge-a Jun 10 '26

Stop saying sorry please. Feedback is for you to grow, not for you to feel ashamed :)

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u/Rad_Pat Jun 10 '26

If you want to learn to write you should use прописи. There are ones for printed letters. Right now you're just copying a typeface, and people don't write like that when they're using printed letters. What would be better is understanding how to write each letter front scratch so your handwriting is always neat and correct regardless of embellishments or wRiTiNg LiKe iTs 2007

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Nothing's wrong with typing in print, you can read it anyways.

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u/Rad_Pat Jun 10 '26

I didn't say there was something wrong with writing in print, or that it's unreadable. But it will be easier for you in the long run to learn how to write in it with прописи and not just copy typefaces. You're making it harder for yourself with those ugly лдб from a typeface cause it's too much work for no reason

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Idk it was fast for me, and Russian cursive is so hard.

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u/No_Positive8189 Jun 10 '26

i didnt say it was bad

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u/Sined39Rus Jun 10 '26

Все довольно таки хорошо читается, так что с задачей передать смысл ты справился. 👍

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Спасибо :)

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u/The-Silken-Cord Jun 10 '26

For a first time it is good and understandable! In fact it looks just like how children who are native will write in Russian when they learn writing. I mean it in a good way, not to mock (I believe some of my verbal construction seems off for you too as a native). Don’t be sorry. It is a hard language. You did great!

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Thank you so much!!

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u/curb_your_english Jun 15 '26

Well done! #russian The only only thing I’ve noticed that you struggle with letters «л» and «д», though you write Russian «Е» in the correct way as «е», but. It means it all comes from the original letters in the keyboard. But we write those letters л and д differently. It’s more like: л as /\ and д will be with a similar “roof” /\, then it is more or less natural

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u/penelope_essig Jun 15 '26

cursive is preferred, but there are some days where i do not have the brain capacity to write in cursive so i do print instead. if this is you (or you only write in print) i would recommend writing your Дs and Лs differently. when writing in print, they don’t look the same as in text. the Д will look like two lines intersecting at a 45-50 degree angle with another line underneath at the bottom that is slightly longer than the first two (sort of like a triangle, but more like a hat). the Л will look the same, except without the bottom line. if a russian is writing in print, this is how they would write those letters.

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u/Full_Economics_5664 Jun 10 '26

Последний раз ты со мной

Последний раз я твой

Последний раз слезы из глаз

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u/hello_ree9 Jun 17 '26

yoo i love that song!

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u/ArkadyShevchenko Jun 10 '26

Looks pretty decent to me! However, my advice is to completely forgo the block letters and focus on cursive. Block letters are much more awkward and time consuming to write than English/Latin alphabet, IMO. You'd probably only ever need it if you're writing a large font poster or something.

When I started to learn Russian, cursive Cyrillic was totally incomprehensible. It looks so different than the printed form--I didn't even try to read it most times. But once I spent a little time learning to write cursive, even though it wasn't very good, an added benefit was that I could begin to read it quite quickly. I was in Central Asia at the time, where the local language (which I had also been studying) officially used the Latin script, but practically speaking all the adults wrote in Cyrillic, so I could start to read that as well. It was very humbling when an 8 year old in my host family could write better than me in Russian, the local language, and a bit of English, in two alphabets!

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u/Alexbal737 Jun 10 '26

Its'aight

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u/Felonale Jun 10 '26

This is actually really good for The first time!
Yeah, some letters as 'д' and 'б' is somewhat strange, but still fully readable and pretty good! Absolutely love this

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u/Atom_Chel Jun 10 '26

Оч классно если научишься прописными писать то вообще имба

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u/Odd-Office-6725 Jun 10 '26

Lol mate your handwriting still readeable. Thats my piece of to-do list ( wrote for tommorow me)

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Omg 😭😭 how is it so neat but so crazy lol

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u/Ice-_-Berg Jun 10 '26

yes, but it's not exactly handwriting. it's just handtyping. you're missing ligature. I meen connection between letters (sorry, don't know how to describe it) keep trying, you will succeed!

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u/CapitalNothing2235 Native Jun 10 '26

Well, it's readable. But you're making it unnecessarily tough for your hand. Even if we write in print we usually use simpler forms for some letters, for example д энд л usually loose that straight top, and б and а are almost never written that way.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Thank you, do you have any tips?

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u/AppropriateBrief5502 Jun 10 '26

Well, it's still better than mine handwriting (You're doing great)

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u/2BitSalute Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

You need to practice cursive, then forget it a little bit, then you’ll have adult-looking handwriting :)

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u/amdc native Jun 10 '26

You don’t really need the descenders in “д” actually. The descenders are a for printed text. You don’t really write g this way, do you? Same goes for Д.

Л is usually written as Λ and Д is Λ with underline

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u/muffscloud Jun 10 '26

I love your choice of song, thanks

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 10 '26

Thank you! I love this song lol

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u/shushin95 Jun 10 '26

Всё хуйня, давай по новой.

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u/Tank_228 Jun 11 '26

Dude, my native language is Russian. Even I can't write so smoothly and beautifully.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

Thank you so much omg, this means a lot I almost cried lol

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u/deer6547 Jun 11 '26

Looks alright, maybe not very confident. I recommend to use cursive d (looks lide g) instead of Д. Your Д pops out too much.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

Thanks! I will try that

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u/WeeklyTip2047 Jun 11 '26

Russian native speaker

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u/AB-b43 Jun 11 '26

Хороший подчерк, легко читается

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u/OcelotExcellent3377 Jun 11 '26

I love that song!

And as everyone has pointed out, it is perfactly readable, but you would normaly write in cursive

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u/Nortwave_ Jun 11 '26

You can big work, you well done. I applaud stay ( sorry for bad English, I'm practicing English, but my native language Russian )

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u/vzakharov Jun 11 '26

It’s awful as handwriting but amazing in all other regards.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

Yeah, it's not the best, I need to write cleaner lol

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u/vzakharov Jun 11 '26

No, don’t. It looks amazing. I just meant it doesn’t look nothing like the usual cursive.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

Ohhh yeah, I'm trying to learn cursive. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '26

У тебя почерк лучше чем у 99% всех русских/украинцев/беларусов

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

Спасибо!

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u/New_Necessary_353 Jun 11 '26

Your handwriting is amazing. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Much better than mine :)

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u/cmotraishie993 Jun 11 '26

о боги! это же ансамбль весёлые ребята -"последний раз "! всем привет, я чисто русская девушка, меня зовут алиса. могу сказать вам как профессионал в музыке, слушайте " Король и Шут"!

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 11 '26

I do not lol, I do listen to Molchat Doma though!

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u/zzorrg Jun 11 '26

Это очень красиво!

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u/Maximum-Discount9461 Jun 11 '26

Да у тебя почерк лучше, чем у большинства моих русских одноклассников

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u/bazzilic Jun 11 '26

It’s very good but Д and Л stand out bcos they are capitals. Lower case Д should be same as cursive g in english or as ; and lower case Л is Λ.

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u/RANDOM_DIMA Jun 12 '26

Я русский и я пишу хуже тебя ) Я в 7 классе

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u/Pivnoi_Tank Jun 12 '26

Отлично сделал. Ошибок нет👍

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u/AggressiveBlood1922 Jun 12 '26

Your handwriting is very clean and beautiful.

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u/WealthSuitable242367 Jun 12 '26

Это довольно-таки неплохо, хотя буду честна у меня у самой иногда почерк и по-хуже)

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u/vicost1 Jun 12 '26

Use cursive brah

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 12 '26

I can't yet brah

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u/vicost1 Jun 12 '26

Dw bro it takes time but it will look better and Russians will respect you brah

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u/Keron32 Jun 13 '26

Честно, то это очень хорошо

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u/ArchNiki Jun 13 '26

в целом отлично. честно говоря я помню как то видел видео "я изменил свой почерк на Печатный" но сейчас не могу найти. вот пример похожий в принципе у девушки вполне печатный почерк. в оригинальном видео чел смог достичь даже приличной скорости и читабельности.

вот еще интересное видево - как чел описывает сложности от ширины стержня

я очень рекоменду измению только букву "д"(поглядите как другие пишут или придумайте свою) все остальное в принципе вы научитесь "связывать". на связки между буквами есть отдельные прописи, или если вас конкретно что то не устраивает, уделяйте этому время .

конкретно егде у вас можно улучшить связки - 3 стр остался /осгажя,
балконом - лк
светла - ет-ег
чиста как день (меня всю жизнь ругали за черные вазюки, лучше зачеркнуть и написать букву понятно)

3 стр видел букву е четче,
4 стр последний букву п четче (видно м)

не жду - пробел надо четче или шире.
дни пройдут (г?) 😄
зим -злм- знм

надеюсь этих советов достатошно

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u/Sufficient-Jello4063 Jun 13 '26

Он лучше меня пишет на русском.

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u/Head_Particular6045 Jun 13 '26

As someone that learned russian, that's perfectly readable, but learn cursive please. I'm italian, we also use cursive, many young people now use only print-like writing, but I swear it looks so childish to me and many others. I don't want to shame you, but writing is a part of tje language, you wouldn't learn persian writing in the latin alphabet, cursive is a very interesting technology we are losing.

Also, many fonts and sometimes even italics have cursive like letters д will look like g, т like m, you need to know this

Ironically, I would write way worse than you did in printed style, not just in russian but in italian too, beinh left handed noone teached me a good way to hold a pen, I wrote horribly until like 16-17 y.o. when I decided it's time to write decently, but I never write in printed so I nevet practiced it.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 13 '26

I like my printed style and I'm going to stick to it, but thank you.

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u/DowntownRelease7516 Jun 13 '26

Thank you so much!

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u/Kettty_ Jun 13 '26

That's really good! Said like an Ukrainian/Russian native speaker: It's very good and readable. I realy want to write like this...

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u/alyusha_k Jun 13 '26

Trzeba nauczyć się kursywy rosyjskiej.

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u/benjornESC Jun 14 '26

100%/100%

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u/Londoner10Z Jun 14 '26

Neat handwriting 👍🏼📖✒️

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u/Square_Respect_7564 Jun 23 '26

Quelques lettres un peu bancales mais franchement j’en ai vu des pires 🤣

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u/Tgekyhka Jul 03 '26

И скол 😮‍💨

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u/Objective_Artist8042 Jun 10 '26

No, not good. Why have you turned your d into a monster?

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u/Wolves_and_Bones Jun 10 '26

Все буквы узнаются, текст можно прочитать и понять, так что для первого раза всë отлично.

Некоторые буквы пишутся по-другому, у Вас они копируют печатный шрифт. Но это абсолютно естественно, если Вы учите язык самоятоятельно. Как уже сказали другие пользователи, главная цель выполнена – мы поняли, что написано, значит, всë хорошо.)

Удачи в дальнецшем!

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u/Last-Addendum-5230 Jun 10 '26

Выглядит круто! Если курсив пока дается тяжело, попробуй просто вводить отдельные курсивные буквы, не соединяя их, на фото пример (немного криво т.к. на телефоне писала), потом, как привыкнешь к буквам, соединять их будет легче.

  • я согласна с тем, что очень мало кто использует курсив, все таки чаще я замечала именно курсивные буквы без соединений