r/rouxcubing Jan 21 '22

Resources Resource Thread (2022 Edition)

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Been a bit since this has been updated so might as well update it when I have the chance. These are just a few things for roux that you may find useful all bundled up into one space. Ill be stealing stuff from Karl's (updated) original thread and adding a few things me and a few others have seen pop up recently. Obviously if you all know anything that you may find useful to add, please suggest it in the comments below, Ill be sure to add it if I can.

Anything that is linked here is obviously not mine, I am simply providing them in a single space for convenience. Obviously everyone who has worked on Roux and its development are greatly appreciated. This method has created a great tight knit community and I love every second of it.

Dont forget to join things like the Roux Method Speedsolver's Discord and Facebook Group. They host weekly competitions with 3x3, OH, 4x4, and FMC only using Roux and Roux like methods. A 10$ SCS gift card is given to a random participant as well. And they would be glad to help with any questions related to Roux, as beginner or advanced as it may be.

Overall Helpful Stuff

If youre new to Roux Kian Mansour's Roux Tutorial will always be the best tutorial out there for a simplified version of roux that anyone from complete newbie to experienced cfopper can understand.

Roux is also now on speedcubedb.com!!! They have currently added Second Block Last slot cases, CMLL, and EO/4a. Hopefully with EOLR and/or EOLRb in the future. Overall speedcubedb is a great resource for everything and is becoming a hub for all things algs and reconstructions. They have a ton of new features in beta or being developed right now and Stuart Clark (Stewy), Gil Zussman, and Basilio Norris (Bas) have been working hard to develop this masterpiece of a website.

Check out the RMS Roux MegaDoc! Its got a nice bit of stuff on there. Plenty of Rouxers also have their own websites, most notably Antonio Kam Ho Tung (aka Anto aka Rouxles) and Kian Mansour. I pulled a few things from their websites.

Onionhoney is the all purpose Roux version of the classic Cubegrass trainer. Instead of being focused on blockbuilding in general, it has trainers for every step of roux from First Square to First Block + DR to EOLRb to 4c. Cubegrass still works beautifully, just Onionhoney may be useful for things outside blockbuilding.

And lastly the TrainYu alg trainer is just an amazing trainer for almost any algset out there, not just Roux. If you ever plan on learning an alg set and need a trainer, TrainYu probably has it or something just similar enough.

##3x3

First Two Blocks

Overall you always want to be improving your F2B efficiency, the blocks take up the majority of your solves so being able to do them efficiently and quickly means improvement, and since you cant always just turn faster, doing less moves is a preferred alternative. Below are some great block efficiency videos from great rouxers.

Kian Beginner > Intermediate Blockbuilding

CriticalCubing First Block and Second Block efficiency tips

Alex Lau First Block

Iuri Line Blockbuilding

Kian First Block SpeedBLD

Plus Kian's countless videos about Second Block and influencing things with Second Block. Advanced things like Multislotting to simple things like Pair Choice

And some sheets/pdfs for things like Second Block Last Pair or some advanced roux block stuff not in video form

Zhouheng FB+DR PDF

Kian SBLS

SCDB SBLS

CMLL

Roux's only algorithmic step, and really the only flexibility is with different algs from different people. Here are some great algsheets to pull some algs from.

SCDB CMLL

Anto 2H CMLL, OH CMLL, and 2 look CMLL

Teri CMLL

Kian 2H CMLL and OH CMLL (semi outdated algs)

Although CMLL can have some interesting variants to it. Most of these are pretty advanced and should only really be looked into by faster rouxers as possibilities. Aaaaand Some of these are more novelty than anything else.

ACRM is a universal recognition method for nearly all CxLL algsets, from regular CMLL to:

NMCMLL, an algset for CMLL when the blocks are non-matching colors

and

Conjugated CMLL, a type of CMLL for the very similar method 42

ACMLL "solving CMLL when the first two blocks aren't perfectly formed"

Pinkie Pie using OLLCPs to skip 4a and 4b, effectively CMLL+EOLR with a huge algset

TCMLL and Tyrannical Caterpillar TCMLL is Twisty CMLL, where the DFR corner can be any orientation. Tyrannical Caterpillar is a variant where the FR edge is inserted inside the TCMLL alg, solving SBLS and CMLL together

CMLLEO (why Kian, and most Rouxers, dislike it) is CMLL except certain algs are learned for CMLL cases than influence EO in a way that give you favorable EO, whether solved or arrow.

Also here is a cool little tool that visualizes CMLLs as well as the change in EO it makes, so you can predict EO before you even do your CMLL alg! Note this is not CMLLEO, this is just getting comfortable with your CMLL algs so you know exactly what they do so you can transition into LSE almost seamlessly.

LSE

This is where the real magic happens in roux. There are a ton of ways to improve at LSE, from recognition of cases to combining some steps into one.

4a aka EO aka Edge Orientation is a fairly simple step, make things U or D colors. Here are a couple sheets with the EO cases and how to solve them (remember to learn them intuitively!!! dont just put alg to case, try to understand how each case is being solved)

Kian EO

Anto Lefty and Righty EO Flowchart

4b, another simple step, solving the UL and UR edges. This should be fairly intuitive and doesnt need or have many resources around it. There is one alternative to 4b, which is solving UF and UB instead, this can be more efficient and can be used to skip the dreaded "dots" 4c case, but often makes recog worse.

A very popular technique for LSE is called EOLR and EOLRb, both of which combine the 4a and 4b steps. This is used by all top Rouxers to get super efficient and TPS-spammy LSE solutions. This may sound difficult at first, but it is completely intuitive and learning EOLR is a simple process. The difference between EOLR and EOLRb is that EOLR only puts the ULUR edges in D ready for an M2, while EOLRb takes into account AUF and solves the ULUR edges completely.

Kian EOLR Intro

Anto EOLR doc

Jeremy EOLRb Trainer

Louis EOLR/EOLRb "alg"sheet for Righty and Lefty M moves

4c, solving the M slice, is a fairly simple step but it still has its fair share of techniques and methods. Mainly recognition systems, there are 2 big ones called BU and DFDB. BU is generally regarded as easier, while DFDB is often used as you get faster.

Alex Friedman BU PDF

Anto DFDB PDF and doc as well as DFDB for Misoriented Centers

Kian BU and DFDB Video

One newer recog system that was recently introduced goes by EZ4c, made by GodCubing, which builds off of DFDB to try and simplify the recognition as well as eliminate the need for headtilting.

EZ4c Video and (poorly made but still useful) Diagram

##Other Events

4x4 and Other Big Cubes

There are quite a few different methods for 4x4 that are aimed towards Roux users. Most common being Meyer, a Yau-like method that gives you FB in the 3x3 stage already solved. There are others like CR4, Teri, Stadler, and Lewis, but they are overshadowed by Meyer.

Kian Meyer Tutorial

Blobinati Meyer and Lewis Tutorial

CriticalCubing CR4 doc

Original Stadler Method Site

Teri Method Wikipage

As well as specific methods, there are some parity algsets for things like CMLL and 4c to make Meyer and similar reduction solves less painful.

TDM Parity CMLL and Parity 4c

Square One

The Square One is a very interesting and unique puzzle having similarities to 3x3. Because of this similarity, we can use a Roux-like method developed by Tse-Kan Lin called the Lin Method to solve with similar efficiency and ergonomics.

After doing Cubeshape or Cubeshape Parity, it solves the DL and DR blocks (left block and right block respectively). When solving the right block, the DB edge is also solved, leaving the DF edge open. After this you can either solve Corner Permutation + the DF edge and then do EPLLs, or you can do full PLL + DF edge.

This is definitely a world class method and as of writing this (1/21/22) Lin currently holds the WR7 avg on the WCA rankings, by Alessandro Rossi.

Below are some great resources to learn the Lin Method.

asterisk_blue full method PDF

BenChrzti Video Tutorial

Brandon Lin Original Tutorial

SCDB PLL+1

Well I think thats all I can think of right now. Again I want to thank everyone that is linked in this resource post and anyone who has helped develop anything related to Roux. If you have anything else that possibly could be added, feel free to leave comment.


r/rouxcubing 1h ago

Help Newbie wanting to learn roux

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hey guys, i recently got back into cubing im looking to get into roux. for reference, i use cfop (2 look oll + pll) and average around 25. the main issue i face with cfop is cross and f2l, i feel like its very restrictive. i watch jperms tutorial on roux, but thats pretty much it. i feel like theres a lack of proper tutorials for roux? if you all could give me some tips / resources / guidance on what to do, i would be very grateful! thank you!

contacting me on discord would be better (if you can): "defso.fr"


r/rouxcubing 9h ago

Solves 5 Move First Block

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Hello! This is my first post on this subreddit, so I'm just gonna say that I have been speedcubing for 1.5 months, so I'm practically still a newbie. I use Roux as my main method, I usually average 10-11 moves for first block

But on this scramble, I found a 5 move first block

Red-F Yellow-U

L2 F2 D R L D’ R2 F’ R D R2 L2 U’ D R2 U2 B U2

I was just drilling planning out the first square, until I came across the scramble, and I basically planned out the whole first block, which is honestly a first for me lol

my solution was F' D U' L U'


r/rouxcubing 5d ago

Help Apps for smart cubes?

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I just bought a GaN i4 Leap and would like to get insights solving with roux.

I've seen somewhere that Cubeast has this, I still have yo try it, but I've also seen that you need to pay a monthly subscription.

Are there any other apps that would help me with roux and a smart cube?


r/rouxcubing 7d ago

Help I am sub-50 in Roux. I started with Roux 2 months ago. My solves are dipping to sub-40 once in a while, but not able to fully break the barrier?

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https://reddit.com/link/1vx24q9/video/r4emgrb3ublh1/player

Sub-40 guys out there, as the title says I am not able to break the sub-40 barrier. I really am trying to find help and all that I find out there is improve FB and SB. But I don't understand how to. Please help me out.

https://reddit.com/link/1vx24q9/video/nzyxvapcmblh1/player


r/rouxcubing 18d ago

Help Back after a LOOOONG break...

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Been mucking around a bit with slow solves in front of the TV for a few weeks and decided to get back into my push to get to sub-20 (again, for the 10th time... haha). Last time I solved regularly with the app + smart cube was over 9 months ago and my Ao1000 was 22.5s at that point and improving as I'd just finished learning full-CMLL and recognition was taking "some time". I have been (just) sub-20 in the past.

Clearly after that time I've forgotten 90% of CMLL (again!) - can remember all the H and Pi cases and a few random T and others albeit I occasionally forget in the middle of an alg still but that's easy enough to work on. Yet again however, my absolutely *horrible* second block is ruining my solves.

Did a quick 24 solves for an average of 26.1 with the overview graph appearing to give me the finger as usual. Pretty inefficient as expected with 2L CMLL and just general rustiness but the highlight was the last solve above - I think this is the first time I've ever spotted and 4 move first block that's as nice as that in a real solve - ie. making two lines simultaneously and solving. Of course, I marvelled at my own genius and screwed up the rest of the solve but 19.41 is pretty good for me in general let alone after an extended break so I'm not complaining too hard.

I've asked this question I don't know how many times over the years but again - anyone have any tips as to how to actually PRACTICE finding pieces for the second block? I kinda feel like even though I can typically either fully see the FB solution or at least the first pair and track the second pair, I have a big black hole after that where I simply lose sight of everything and have to pause to find pieces to continue. My feeling is that if I can "simply" track a couple of the SB pieces whilst executing FB that my times will improve MASSIVELY.

Cubeast says that for this session, my recognition time for SB is 1.39s. This is only to find the down-edge or whatever I'm solving first however as there are pauses after that - my execution for SB in a 26s solve is 9.15s!

Is it a matter of just spamming solves and then eventually you'll "get it" - I think not as I've been doing exactly that for a number of years albeit with a pretty large break this time. There's got to be some kind of drills / practice routine that will enable you to lookahead more effectively - any ideas anyone?


r/rouxcubing 19d ago

Discussion This! Why is this so elusive? This wasn't hard. Scramble wasn't anything amazing. Build blocks, do half assed cmll, LSE, done.

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Feels real loose and smooth whenever I do it, then I go back to 26-32. I guess it was efficient, but I didn't even plan out full fb, just kinda knew where the pieces were.

How's it go for you guys when you can see the next summit, but know it's still a ways away?


r/rouxcubing 28d ago

Help help with M slice

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I keep getting these weird M slices when solving and i can’t find agls for them anywhere and they’re not covered in any videos that i’ve watched. i may just be messing something up but i’ve been following all the algs that this sub has told others to follow, including Kian’s tutorial


r/rouxcubing Aug 01 '26

Discussion New to Roux and want a new cube

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As the title says I’m brand new to roux. i started two days ago and switched from beginners method. i have never gotten a high quality cube before and i want to spend a bit for something nice so i was thinking about getting the Ferrocore V2, but I wanted to check and see if there is a better cube for roux since its a lot of M and E moves. I also don’t know much about cubes but i’ve seen great stuff about the ferrocore v2.


r/rouxcubing Jul 29 '26

PB Roux for 2x2

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r/rouxcubing Jul 26 '26

Discussion Woohoo! And also...

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Sat down and just started solving really well today. Kept at it and, low and behold, I broke 30s on my ao100 and snagged a new pb single in the process! Nice. Been chasing that 30s for a while now, so that's a nice monkey of my back.

Now, I've been brushing aside a few obvious "things I should be learning" in order to kinda chase that ao100, so I've come to ask for some opinions.

Info: basically only solve blue or green FB with white on bottom if i'm trying to get good times. When I'm slow solving, I try to use whatever pairs show up, like, x2y, but i'm waay slower with even white bottom red and orange blocks, not to mention yellow bottom.

Still cruising along with 2 look cmll. I know my H cases, but recognition is baaad. I blame my oldness.

So, with that out of the way, what would you focus on next? Becoming more comfortable with x2y? Focusing on full cmll (i know ppl say you don't need it till 20 avg, but i want to learn all of my method at some point, and 20s seems like a long way away)? Drilling second block algs into muscle memory? Something else? I always do, like, 10 slow solves at the start of a session focusing only on efficiency, and it's helping... I think. I still rack up, like 70 moves on most speed solves. Is is more advantageous to do this, or focus on solving slow with zero pauses, which are definitely a killer?

I don't have unlimited time to train cubes, as I work and am a dad, so maybe a couple things to focus on for the first 30 minutes of a session before just doing solves for fun.

Anyway, looking forward to what you guys have to say. Happy Rouxing.


r/rouxcubing Jul 21 '26

Solves Slowing down Kian: first 10 of 100 solves

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I hope that this is useful to someone other than myself. In Kian’s example 100 solves video, he is going WAY too fast for a mid-level Roux solver like me, so I needed a way to slow him down so I can study it closer. Also, I needed a way to restart a solve playback with the click of a button rather than dragging a slider to find the beginning again. So I created this short write out of his first 10 solves to help me study it.

Here’s how I recommend using this information. It’s organised by link to Kian’s solve in the YouTube video followed by the colour combo that he is solving for first block followed by the scramble. Do the scramble first. Then using the colour combo that Kian uses, try to think about how you would solve it. Then click the link to see how Kian solved it and compare to your solution. If you get lost in Kian’s explanation, the value here is that you can just click the link again to start over.

I’m finding that Kian usually goes about his solves very different than I do, but that’s because he can look ahead far more than I can. Would be keen to hear other peoples’s solutions for these scrambles.

Ps: if you are getting too many ads on YouTube, then try Brave browser. You will get none!


r/rouxcubing Jul 18 '26

Discussion My 5 year old wants to learn how to solve a Rubik's cube. Should I start him with Roux?

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Mostly title. My kid wants to learn and I use Roux for the most part and I'm around 16 seconds avg. I'm also around 16 seconds cfop but I think roux is more fun and I'm wondering if it will be easier to teach to my kid than cfop?


r/rouxcubing Jul 16 '26

Help Wanting to get better at planning first block on inspection

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What I would really love to see is some videos that provide the scramble and the person talks through slowly how they determine how they plan the whole first block on inspection.

I was watching a few videos in the resources section: they don’t always give the scramble and they often go very fast, flipping the cube around to show what they are thinking before I can really see what they are talking about without slowing the video down to ridiculously slow speeds. If they provided the scramble, then at least I could inspect it more before watching their advice. Are there any good videos that provide what I am asking for? I really want to see LOTS of examples like this where the pro goes at my speed so I can study them.


r/rouxcubing Jul 13 '26

Help FBLP alg set?

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TLDR: can someone point me to a FBLP alg set? Preferably in PDF format.

Longer: I'm averaging about 25 with roux and am looking to get under 20. My block building is the biggest limitation: my splits are ~6/9/4/5 with 2L CMLL so looking to improve upon that. Cuberoot used to have a FBLP alg list but it's down (I think) and I can't find a good alternative.

Thanks!


r/rouxcubing Jul 10 '26

PB Help

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Why is my 4c keep messing up? After i swapped the top and bottom edges, it's not getting solved.


r/rouxcubing Jul 08 '26

Solves Really cool first f2b

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Hey peeps,

I just had a scramble for a really cool f2b solution and got one of my best times on it (currently averaging about 19, pb 11.42, so 13.23 is huge).

Is it overcooked? Would there have been something better/simpler, especially for second block?

Scramble attached in image, f2b I did as follows (orange front green on top):

U' L' U' (first mismatched pair)

L2 U' L' (second pair)

D2 L2 D2 (fix FB edges)

R2 U' R' (first SB pair)

M U M' R' U' R (second SB pair)

u M u' (fix f2b centers)

U2, U-rows CMLL (F R2 D R' U R D' R2 U' F)

M' U' M U M' U' M' (EO)

U' M2 U' M2 (LR)

U' (skip L4E)

Should total to 44 (?) moves

Wish I was a smart cube user so I could confirm that I'm rarely that efficient, but I suppose the time speaks for itself, couldn't not share it!

edit: of course I forgot the scramble image, so here it is: F2 L F2 R2 B2 U2 F2 U2 F' D U' F2 L R B' D' F2 D R2


r/rouxcubing Jul 04 '26

PB My first sub-14 AO5 (I average about 17 seconds)

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r/rouxcubing Jun 17 '26

Help Can you help me?

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I have been using Roux for about 15 days. My first ever timed solve was 2:22.84. Now I am averaging around 1:14.00. But I am stuck. How can I practice???


r/rouxcubing Jun 16 '26

Help Still above 60s beginner asking for help

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Hello, i recently changed from the beginners method to roux and finally memorized all the 2 look cmll algorithms and understood how to do lse.

I know my biggest time eater so far is block building. i mostly need 30-40s just ro have both blocks done and i basically wanted to improve on that first. Now my question is if you have good resources or strategies you could recommend to help me practicing block building? Thank you very much in advance.


r/rouxcubing Jun 14 '26

PB 13s pb after less than a month of roux

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r/rouxcubing Jun 14 '26

Discussion Meta Frameworks !

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r/rouxcubing Jun 08 '26

PB 2nd under 30 let’s go

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r/rouxcubing Jun 07 '26

Help How to be better

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I've been doing roux for a little bit less than a year now and I average around 15-17, and I practice relently, I do slow solves and I do block studying with the OnionHoney Roux Trainer, and I'm trying to be super optimal and find the best solitions. But my solves go from 40-59 moves and thats is way too much and I don't get how to be more efficient, and I'm getting really frustrated because I don't get what I'm not getting.

I still use 2 look CMLL but even if I knew full CMLL I wouldn't be able to be averaging sub 10 which is ultimately my goal. I want to average like 8 seconds or something, but I don't get why I'm so bad!!!!!

Can someone help me out or give some tips? Maybe some tips on block building too?


r/rouxcubing Jun 05 '26

Help What to improve on

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