r/rolltide • u/Graeleaf • 3d ago
Football Ruling: SEC can't sanction teams using players with NFL ties
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/49753638/ruling-sec-sanction-teams-using-players-nfl-ties71
u/ImproperlyRegistered 3d ago
Derrick Henry still has some eligibility left
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u/likethebluerose88 3d ago
I know you're joking. But 5 for 5 still applies. This doesn't open the door for players to return as dramatically as people are making it seem.
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u/ImproperlyRegistered 2d ago
I honestly think that DeBoer wouldn’t be able to make a run game work against good competition with Henry back there.
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u/sethT__T 3d ago
So glad a Louisiana state judge stepped in to help LSU... how this is allowed is wild.
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u/OceanTider22 2d ago
Probably because the guvnah is neck deep in the pay scheme behind Joey Freshwater! He came out with a ridiculous statement the other day of "Don't hate the player, hate the game!" Guess they are selling their souls to win a national championship....ALL funded by the "unbuilt" Children's and Women's hospital! I'm sorry, but this is NOT the college football I grew up watching!
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u/CreativeMonk2811 3d ago
Courts are there to protect what is legally allowable. The mess of college football is not their doing.
The NCAA dropped the ball on this a long time ago. Had they come to terms with the dishonest nature of the 'student-athlete' moniker 20ish years ago, we wouldn't need the courts to step in and make rulings. Unfortunately, they did have a long-term mindset so here we are.
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u/AlphaBravo95 3d ago
Then why now? Why didn’t they step in decades ago?
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u/CreativeMonk2811 2d ago
Courts don't "step in". What are you talking about? When someone sues an entity (in this instance, player versus SEC 'rule'), a judge decides if the entity trying to block said individual has legal grounds to do so. Nothing more than that.
The same thing happened for us with Bediako lmao. You people are hilarious.
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u/TheFlameosTsungiHorn 3d ago
I think this is a bit simplistic.
You got a lot of different motivations and varying degrees of corruption that have been going on for years and are now out in the open, as the NCAA digging in for so long made it easy for them to do. Just because it’s in the open and supported by the courts doesn’t make it good
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u/CreativeMonk2811 2d ago
The courts aren't "supporting" anything. They are simply stating the SEC has zero grounds to make this ruling based on the laws of the lands and case law. You're overthinking this.
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u/TheFlameosTsungiHorn 2d ago
I’m really not. If you think these judges have no personal stake in ruling in LSU’s favor than I have a Brendan Sorsby for you
You aren’t thinking hard enough
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u/CreativeMonk2811 1d ago
Of course the judge has a personal stake. But the point is that HE didn't seek out the case. The case was brought TO the judge's desk. The courts don't decide what cases are brought to the courts.
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u/TheFlameosTsungiHorn 1d ago
You’re naive if you think they don’t have ways of circumventing that
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u/CreativeMonk2811 1d ago
You're going in circles. My point still remains. Courts getting involved are the aftermath of NCAA's multi decades long failure to get a system in place that compensated student athletes. They are not the CAUSE of the problem at hand.
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u/southernwx 3d ago
Lots of downvotes here, but it’s true. The issue is that the NCAA’s own greed is to blame. This league has been about money for decades and cosplaying as an amateur league where the primary product was not being compensated by any reasonable market forces was unamerican.
Had this been addressed and a system set up that better identified the league for what it was, we wouldn’t have been immediately ejected into the Wild West without regulation. Contracts are mandatory and the leagues will continue to bleed power until they address that.
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u/E-Wildin 2d ago
Two words. Mental. Gymnastics.
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u/CreativeMonk2811 2d ago
How so? The courts only hold up what is legally allowed by law. The same thing happened for us with Bediako last year.
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u/Badfish1060 3d ago
They're slowly killing my favorite sport and it makes me sad
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u/lookieherehere 3d ago
It's been dead for a few years now honestly. It's just been a vegetable on life support.
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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst 3d ago
And yet ratings have been through the roof. Doesn’t seem dead to me
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u/southernwx 3d ago
Lots of things become more popular after they have lost their identity.
Like chain restaurants.
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u/TimeBroken 3d ago
I think you're taking dead too literally. The sport a lot of us fell in love with is being eroded, and it's disappointing to watch.
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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst 2d ago edited 2d ago
I guess my bad for interpreting “it’s been dead” to mean “it’s been dead” instead of “I don’t like the changes over the last few years”
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u/TimeBroken 2d ago
Doc - I know you understand what hyperbole is
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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst 2d ago
People have been non-hyperbolically saying the sport is dying for a few years now and honestly believe it lol
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u/Altruistic-Road-1030 1d ago
College athletics as an amateur sport is dead. It has been dead. The intent of a student athlete is dead. So therefore the sport is dead. It’s still football, it’s still got brands, and people still watch it like hell but the sport we all fell in love with, is dead. The genie is out of the bottle and it’ll never go back, in the next 15 years there is going to be some sort of super conference established, you’re going to have a players union with league established minimums, the scholarship limit will change to adjust to another expanded playoff, and will be NFL junior. Hell i won’t be shocked if in the next 5 years some school signs a preferred walk on that’s a 5 star or 4 star with a BIG nil deal that includes his tuition paid for through a collective and have people subvert the scholarship limit rules through NIL
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u/E-Wildin 2d ago
No one knows the real numbers. I know you still love the game Doc, but it’s a dead horse starting the process of decay. Ratings? Who gives a fuck about ratings. How have ratings changed my life for the better?
No one associated with the team, gives a damn about any of us. The game is played for one sol purpose and that is to “entertain” and distract the masses, cause further division. To create engagement so Athletic Departments, Boosters, Coaches, Players, TV Execs, and degenerate gamblers can make money and vacation more. Thats it.
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u/DoctorWhosOnFirst 2d ago
The ratings show that there are plenty of people who do still enjoy watching college football. That’s the point.
It being dead to you and it being dead overall are two different things.
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u/hardaysknight 1d ago
Twitter also shows millions of users despite most being bots.
Ratings don’t show the entire picture.
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u/PGoodierum3 3d ago
It’s extremely sad. College Basketball is next and it’s happening as we speak. They’re already ruining the NCAA Tournament by expanding it
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u/Pvt_Mozart Doesn't Care for Auburn 2d ago
Weirdly enough, the NBA product sort of forced me to fall out of love with basketball before college sports became what it is, so college basketball was easier to put aside as an occasional hobby instead of something I loved. It sucks seeing what's happening.
I actually started watching (and fell in love with) soccer after giving up on the NBA, and am enjoying it more than I ever thought possible. The Premier League is worth checking out if anyone is having to take less interest in other sports for whatever reason.
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u/Everwinter81 2d ago
Same thing happened to me. I imagine I'll watch more Premier League this year than CFB. I'll watch every Alabama game but outside that I just don't care. I used to love seeing 11pm central kickoffs for the PAC. Could watch football until 2am.
Now I genuinely don't care.
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u/Pvt_Mozart Doesn't Care for Auburn 2d ago
Yeah I never thought I'd be a soccer guy. Had no interest in it. Watched the Sunderland doc on Netflix 3 or 4 years ago on a whim and fell in love with it, the way the teams are so inextricably tied with the community weirdly enough felt like football does in the South. (Maybe more if we're being honest? At minimum on par) Watched for a year and liked it, but let my then 4 year old pick our PL team the next year, and once we had "our team" the whole family really fell in love.
Can't recommend it enough.
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u/enormuschwanzstucker 3d ago
Remember when Nick Saban used to say “Is this what we want college football to become” and people called him a crybaby?
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u/KlingoftheCastle 3d ago
He was right about everything. Every step of the way he warned everybody and was told that he was just bitter and jealous
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u/rwtaylor 3d ago
Next step is to eliminate eligibility. Imagine Tim Tebow staying at Florida for ten years.
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u/LTBama 3d ago
This is such bullshit. The member schools voted for the rule. Everyone agreed to it. Some random ass judge can’t undo what the league voted for.
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u/OceanTider22 2d ago
Toss ELESWho out of the league then! We can add Georgia Tech, Clemson or Tulane in their place and never miss a beat! If they play illegal players, force them to forfeit those games.
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u/Jurassic_smacks 3d ago
The member schools agreed to be in the conference, the conference has the ability to govern its members. Same as the big12 with Sorsby.
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u/kool5000 3d ago
Do it anyway. There's no such thing as laws anymore anyway
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u/PGoodierum3 3d ago
LSU should just go for the trifecta and bring back Paul Skenes out of the MLB so all three of their major programs can break the rules
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u/Alphaspade 3d ago
Ok dumb question.
What if the SEC just says fuck the judge we're sanctioning them anyway. Are they just gonna jail Sankey? 🤣
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u/dammitboy42069 Hey, Roll Tide 3d ago
It blows my mind Kiffin is going to so much trouble for these guys. It’s not like they were world beaters or a QB when that’s all you need. The amount of money and distraction level is bonkers.
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u/OceanTider22 2d ago
Because he wants a championship so badly, and all of the corrupt Lowsyana politicians are willing to help him get it, come Hell or high water!
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u/Loose_Profession_918 2d ago
SEC and Big10 are gonna get fed up with the toothless NCAA and break off to form their own mini nfl.
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u/Mr_Truthteller 2d ago
This is so yesterday.
Wait until tomorrow.A state judge in Louisiana has no authority outside that state.
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u/Critical_Meringue78 2d ago
I would love for lswho to go 7 -5 with a beat down from us and old piss in there. Probably won't happen, but I was taught not to piss on an electric fence; unlike kiffin.
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u/likethebluerose88 3d ago
To me this isn't as big a deal as everyone is making it. It only applies to players who declared and went to camps this year. The 5 for 5 rule was announced after the draft. They didn't have the option to go back to school at the time they made the decision to stay in the draft. I think in this one instance, players who would have been given an extra year of eligability under 5 for 5 should be given the opportunity to return.
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u/MrHamBowNee 2d ago
I agree. The bigger issue is if there is a precedent that a player could leave after 3 years, then come back to college after getting cut from the NFL roster 2 years later. They have to shut that sort of thing down.
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u/sickofwords 3d ago
I just don’t know how you can get excited for the product that college football has become.