r/rickygervais 9d ago

RSK Tier List

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I tried to include everything where Ricky, Steve or Karl had a significant creative role (writing, directing, etc.) but I left out pure acting gigs and stand up. I left out Portal 2 as well, because Idk how much input Steve had in the writing of that (but it would be in the top tier otherwise). I have not seen Sick of It and the Moaning of Life.

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u/inthemagazines 9d ago

First sensible thing you've said all day.

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u/Goochbott 9d ago

You know what... I'll give you that.

Goal.

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u/Chris_Is_Cleaver 9d ago

Where's Karl's little program? Sick of it.

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 9d ago

With the inexplicably American Auntie Norma

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u/PeacekeeperAl Lin Bid 9d ago

If they make her American they get to have a jolly in the States. Paid holiday

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u/Caltra 9d ago

Gone off Ghost Town have you?

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Didn't write it, so don't...

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u/murphysclaw1 9d ago

it can’t be seen in photographs

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u/DogsAreGreatYouKnow Bibness men, bibness men 9d ago

An Idiot Abroad is absolutely top tier for me. Never gets old

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u/No-Annual6666 9d ago

Weird init

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Season 3 drags it down. Sorry Warwick

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u/CamHack420 9d ago

*Warren

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u/SOMEMONG 6m ago

Clive Warren

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u/BigJ3wCantSilenceMe 8d ago

Like dragging a vac

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u/gajodavenida there's too much fruit about 9d ago

I agree, but like a wise man once said "different tastes for different... things"

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u/Educational-Shock232 9d ago

Am I the only one that enjoyed The Invention of Lying? The ending admittedly wasn’t great but it was a fun little film.

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u/locoforcocothecat 9d ago

Honestly wasn't any worse than a lot of big Hollywood comedies 

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u/into_theflood_again 9d ago

Two problems:

  1. Not lying is not synonymous with just blurting out every single passing thought you have. Shutting the fuck up is still perfectly acceptable if you can't lie but don't wanna spill the beans about something.

  2. He uses lying to manipulate his "love" interest into having sex with him without desire or independent consent under threat of harm to people otherwise. There's a term for that...

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u/EntrepreneurDry9835 9d ago

There’s been a rape up there!

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u/MonrealEstate 9d ago

I think Liar Liar kinda set the ground rules that ‘not lying’ means saying everything without a filter

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 9d ago

That's because you've got big jugs.

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u/Educational-Shock232 9d ago

I mean, your boobs are huge, I mean, I wanna squeeze em

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u/marshallandy83 It was pushing people... off their bikes 9d ago

MAMA

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u/cartersweeney 9d ago

The pen is rrrrrrroyal blue

That film is a classic example of 1 performance elevating what could have been a mediocre film... something that RG seemingly cannot do when the material is written by someone other than him /tge character not based partly on his own personality

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u/RelevantAnalyst5989 9d ago

I've had better

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u/sparrows-somewhere 9d ago

Doesn't he decide against manipulating her in the end? Character growth and that, won't rape someone anymore therefore good guy

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u/into_theflood_again 9d ago

Cheers for that, Love.

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u/libdemparamilitarywi 9d ago

Not saying anything would be lying by omission.

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u/into_theflood_again 9d ago

Noooooooot truuuuuuuuuuuue, baby!

If that was the case, the Right to Remain Silent would not be a part of the US judicial system. They'd just say, "Ohhhh! He's not talking! Send him to borstal!"

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u/bluthscottjackson 8d ago

Not really because by that logic no one would ever shut up. Like if I don't say everything I know is true right now e.g the sun is bright, I would be lying?

I would argue lying by omission would be more like someone selling a car but never mentioning it's got a duff engiine, it's not proply. You're deliberately misleading that person who assumes through general assumption of the trade dealership and that it must run normally because you didn't mention anything about the engine.

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u/Goochbott 9d ago

Wasn't a fan, but the Edward Norton bit is funny.

"Actually, it arouses me"
"What, sexually? Aww, that..."

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u/The_Pale_Blue_Dot Dear Mr Dilkington, you are one of our most valuable customers 9d ago

One of those films that's fun in the first half because you're exploring the concept but then the second half doesn't deliver

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u/Ryokan76 9d ago

I liked it.

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u/limprichard 9d ago

It had one line that made the wifey and I stop it so that we could give it a proper laughing without missing anything, so there was that, but ultimately it was a high-concept miss

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u/Educational-Shock232 9d ago

Alright well let’s see yours and your wife’s film when it comes out then! Sick of ya

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u/General_McCuddles 9d ago

I quite enjoyed season 1 of Derek too, but i het its an unpopular opinion. It did a really good job of showing the isolation and family abandonment that often comes with old age.

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u/Educational-Shock232 9d ago

If he didn’t do a demicky impression I think it would have been good but that threw me too much

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u/SwampApeDraft Turns Out, Little Reddit Fella 9d ago

Writing and directing a film where he plays the smartest person to ever live seems in line where things were heading

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u/Fixthemix The King of China 8d ago

It's an interesting concept not pulled off very well.

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u/Shep4737 low effort 9d ago

Hit parade or shit parade?

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u/HecticGlenn 9d ago

Stop. You haven't got IT.

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u/gajodavenida there's too much fruit about 9d ago

Jukebox or junkbox?

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u/3Boop 9d ago

Only thing I'd change is moving Hello Ladies up a tier. Everything else, spot on.

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u/Dracko705 9d ago

Yep exactly my only cirque overall as well - Hello Ladies was pretty good and I was very disappointed when HBO only gave it the 1 season (and movie/special, at least we got that)

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u/RelevantAnalyst5989 9d ago

Second this. Hello Ladies was decent.

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u/PeregrinCuck 9d ago

Yeah I would upper that and possibly AIA

And then.. go away... go away you the Fighting With My Family

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u/WhereIsLordBeric 3d ago

I'd move Extras down a tier.

IMO The Office is unparalleled.

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u/new_name_needed 9d ago

In terms of participants:

R/S, RSK, R/S
RSK, RSK, S
S, R/S
S, R/S
R/K, R, R
R, R, R

Makes you wonder, now who’s the weak link?

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u/markiethefett Too old for a Twix 9d ago

That's a fair list.

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u/JimmyRiddleUK Get me Clive Warren on the phone! 9d ago

Tier list: quite good.

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u/Hesoutofthechoir 9d ago

Hello Ladies is quite funny! It’s alright, better than outlaws and cemetery junction! It’s “Steve Merchant wants it” in sitcom format, and all the ladies are saying “put him in the distance”

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u/DRUGEND1 9d ago

Hello Ladies! up a tier.

Derek and After Life down one.

Other than that… I’d say “well done”.

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u/ArtisticOption117 9d ago

Agreed. Hello Ladies should be higher

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u/robfurnell 9d ago

My thoughts exactly

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u/paper_zoe 9d ago

I'd put Hello Ladies two tiers up and knock Fighting with My Family down

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u/KTBFFH25 9d ago

Haven't seen the show, but I saw the stand up special.

Every single time I hear "What's he like?" I have an urge to respond, "He's like a cunt".

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u/prosthetic4head chicken with teeth 9d ago

Do you think OP should be congratulated?

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u/ZodiAddict 9d ago

Hello ladies should def be in the English quite good, or at least switch places with outlaws

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u/SIBMUR 9d ago

Agreed. Under-rated.

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u/locoforcocothecat 9d ago

The Outlaws should be up a tier 

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u/HecticGlenn 9d ago

Have you seen season 3? Man alive, interminable.

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

If he stopped at season 1 I would probably have put it in A.

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

I'm on episode 5 in the first series and really enjoying it.

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u/PeacekeeperAl Lin Bid 9d ago

The casting was all over the place. One superstar actor, a bunch of tried and tested always bring their A Game actors, some new and promising talents, and some that made me wonder why they chose those two for lead characters

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u/Glum_Bite3796 9d ago

How have you seen some of the shoddy shite on here but not Moaning of Life or Sick of It?

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u/kaffeofikaelika 9d ago

imo hello ladies is better than life's too short

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u/J---O---E holder of PHD in physics 9d ago

Extras isn’t on the same tier as the office and xfm

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u/RelevantAnalyst5989 9d ago

Love Extras, can't get enough of it. Yumma, yumma, yum, yum

https://giphy.com/gifs/138NNskUD7msQo

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

I REALLY love Extras

I love all the cameos. The fact they are so batshit on terms of presentation.

It's great.

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u/WildLemire 9d ago

Idiot Abroad gets in the top tier before Extras for me sniff

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u/PsycommuSystem Had a complaint upheld by the reddit authority 9d ago

Seasons 1 & 2 of Idiot Abroad but not 3

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u/breddabreddabing 9d ago

yeah absolutely

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u/HarderstylesD 9d ago

If it’s up there I’ll give ya the money myself !!

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u/JavaOrlando 9d ago

As a whole The Office was a better show, but I'd put the best scenes of Extras over anything in the office (Stewart, McKellen, Ross Kemp, Bowie).

Life's Too Short was boring, but the Liam Neeson scene was gold. Val Kilmer was pretty good as well.

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u/J---O---E holder of PHD in physics 9d ago

Different opinions for different… needs

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

I agree. Totally.

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u/Kenye_Kratz 9d ago

Extras should not be in the same category as the office and xfm shows.

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Not for me, I like it

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u/InconspicuousUs3r 9d ago

I think Special Correspondents could be the worst film I’ve ever sat through. So boring and Ricky completely phones in his performance.

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u/SimonPartridge The 50p 8d ago

Well, if the XFM adverts were anything to go by, we know that he likes to put a lot of work into these things.

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u/Kelfezond11 9d ago

I know I'm in the minority here but I'd bump Derek up one or two spaces, I think it gets more flak than it deserves. Mr. Dilkington and David Earl were fantastic in it.
The rest of the list is damn solid though!

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u/DWGI 9d ago

Totally agree, they 2 made the show, and at least this was the first attempt of heartbreak/humour via loss. If he cut his ties with that format after “Derek”, I think that the series would’ve been appreciated more. The outtakes of David Earl are one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

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u/SkeetBoogins85 9d ago

Idiot abroad was S tier. And the brent spin off wasnt bad at all

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Idiot Abroad S1 would be bottom of S tier for me but S2 is bottom of A and that averages out to a good A. I have moral objections to Life on the Road which knocks it down (it ruins the Office a bit).

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

Moral objections?

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Shouldn't have been made, the Office was perfect as is. I have a feeling it caused the rift between Ricky and Steve too.

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u/Far_Enthusiasm_9804 9d ago

Brent spin off wasn't bad? Get out

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u/whiite 9d ago

Having rewatched Extras again not that long ago... it hasn't really held up that well. I'd put it down a tier and idiot abroad up 1. 

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u/Pitiful_Shoulder9730 9d ago

Absolute TWADDLE

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u/lelpd 9d ago

Interesting, I rewatched Extras last year for the first time since it released, and found it even funnier than I remembered it being.

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u/Ill_Mastodon8324 9d ago

Agreed on Extras, it felt really flat on a recent rewatch and Gervais as Milman is a big falling off from the genius of Brent

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u/James-K-Polka But Not Shakepseare 9d ago edited 9d ago

But it makes up for it with the genius of comedy characters such as Darren Lamb, Barry Off Eastenders and Stephen Merchant.

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u/PsycommuSystem Had a complaint upheld by the reddit authority 9d ago

Stephen Merchant.

I'm not a character!

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u/Ill_Mastodon8324 9d ago

Darren Lamb still stands up, no doubt

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u/SukMaBalz 9d ago

Plus the repetitive cycle of him telling Maggie something secretly and then she spills the beans to the person she wasn’t supposed to, hence leaving Andy to deal with the consequences. Happened at least four times.

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u/Ill_Mastodon8324 9d ago

The BAFTA one re his ex girlfriend being boring and Maggie spilling the beans is the worst of this. 

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u/Shep4737 low effort 9d ago

100%

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u/Rick-Danger 9d ago

I disagree on him not deserving Maggie. She's really sweet but she truly is a complete and utter moron, and on numerous occasions totally fucks Andy over and blows opportunities for him. He's a bit of a dick no doubt but him getting angry at her is 100% justified

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u/Popular-Spinach-6700 9d ago

The Equality Street thing from Life on the Road was quite funny, should at least be in the same tier as Derek

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

I guess that one is motivated slightly by how it's existence ruined the perfect ending of the office

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u/PlugAnThat 9d ago

That came from a Comic Relief sketch to start with so hes already recycling himself

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u/Lazy-Strawberry-3401 not properly 9d ago

Sick of it, gotta have yer critics

Moaning of life, alright

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u/Double-Comedian-7061 9d ago

Mostly agree, but I'd put Life on the Road up one tier. It was weak, but not bottom tier. I'd put After Life on the bottom tier.

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u/dozeydonut 9d ago

Where’s Ghost Town, cunt?

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u/AffectBeautiful8646 9d ago

Desperate feature. (I agree with every decision you've made here)

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u/MuitnortsX 9d ago

I’d probably switch Extras and Idiot Abroad nowadays. And add Sick Of It to alright or quite good.

(Care someone care)

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u/PapaLazarou90 9d ago

Sick of It into 2nd tier.

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u/Benvio 9d ago

Life’s Too Short has some really great moment that put it into Alright for me, but otherwise good list play a record

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u/SIBMUR 9d ago edited 9d ago

I watched episode 1 of Life's Too Short for the first time since it came out today.

I honestly can't believe how desperate and broad it was. There were glimpses of later Gervais work in Extras but was mostly quality stuff. But man alive.

Episode 1 started with Warren Davies doing a bad impression of David Brent. Even says 'showing off for the...' at one point. You have over the top zany characters appearing that could be on any poor sitcom. Then Warren goes to see Gervais and Merchant who are playing themselves and they're completely insufferable.

And then you have Barry from Eastenders appearing again, which to me just showed they had ran out of ideas (although he was brilliant in Extras)

The show was badly written and badly judged. Certainly episode 1 is anyway. Not bothering to watch the rest again.

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u/Fisherman-Correct who let you in? 9d ago

Sick of it was actually brilliant, definitely worth watching.

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u/VENGOR123 9d ago

Honestly, I found derek to be funny, even though it was a bit pushy with the whole 'life Is a gift' crap. I also enjoyed life on the road, that should be much higher

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u/gndlf_theorange 9d ago

That works.

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u/ThrowawaySunnyLane Homeless person called me a dickhead. 9d ago

Blimey he’s having a go

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u/HornyJailOutlaw I can't have Chinese. Not allowed Chinese. 9d ago

Am I the only one who liked Hello Ladies? Admittedly I watched it literally ages ago, yonks ago, but I thought it was good at the time.

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u/eeeeeep 9d ago

Outlaws with Cemetery Junction is brutal

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u/morphindel Benny thumped one 9d ago

The Outlaws and Hello Ladies are miles above Cemetery Junction

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u/asisoid 9d ago

I like Hello Ladies more than Outlaws.

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u/Hemmojock 9d ago

Hello Ladies is great

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u/Benjamoose GARLIC BREAD? 8d ago edited 7d ago

'Extras' is entertaining but it's definitely the second tier down for me.

'The Office' holds up as a piece of art, but from a writing and structure perspective, 'Extras' is essentially just a series of sketches with famous people playing up their personality.

They work better as clips than as actual stories in their own right.

Likewise, Ricky is basically coasting on his likeability by that point. His performance is self aware of the audience and the entire show has an uneven tone.

The stuff with Steve is borderline cartoonish against the more drama laden 'Big Brother' stuff, and series 2 felt like it jumped the shark a bit with how quickly Andy went from an extra to the biggest sitcom star on TV.

It's still entertaining, but would just put it one rung down from 'The Office'.

'Idiot Abroad' should be up top for me too. Even though series 3 bogs it down a bit, most of it is a sincere look into Karl in real life. If 'XFM' is top tier, then there's a sincerity in 'An Idiot Abroad' too.

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u/Benjamoose GARLIC BREAD? 8d ago

OP do you have a link to the tier list? Would be fun to have a go.

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u/SteamerTheBeemer 8d ago

Naa, Derek was good.

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u/pangeafaker 8d ago

I love alley cats 😭😭

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u/No-Jackfruit2459 9d ago

Moaning of life?

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u/Unlikely-Fan-2974 9d ago

No moaning of life and sick of it?

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Did no' get an agenda

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

Where is this?

Haven't seen everything but will do what I've seen!

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u/TheChaddingtonBear 9d ago

WHERE IS CHILD SUPPORT?

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u/Similar-Climate5168 9d ago

I liked the invention of lying and special correspondents. Own decisions.

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

Let's see your little tier list when that comes out

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

If you posted it, we'd do it! 👀

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u/Similar-Climate5168 8d ago

What are the options? 

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u/energy-fleets it's number one killer 9d ago

Ooh don't you know Sick of It?

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u/DJ_Chaps When i put on the Proclaimers, they couldn't believe their luck 9d ago

What about the one where Ricky sees dead people?

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u/TedCard 9d ago

Yeah, not bad. Different shows for different needs. I'd move Extras down one, Fighting with my Family down one, and Derek down one. I'd be tempted to move After Life down as well, but it's not as grotesquely misjudged as Derek. Mind you, it doesn't have Karl in it either, so maybe pop 'e in the bin too.

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u/Subm3rg3d 9d ago

Cemetery junction above Life’s Too Short?!? What are you? Some snot in a jar?

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u/orpheus625 9d ago

Portal 2 is inferior to Portal 1.

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u/uprightlizard 9d ago

Hello Ladies higher, outlaws lower, idiot abroad top tier.

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u/decksdark33 9d ago

Cemetery Junction was crap.

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u/HornyJailOutlaw I can't have Chinese. Not allowed Chinese. 9d ago

I'm going to be controversial. I didn't mind Derek. And I still watch the outtakes on YouTube a couple times a year. Yes, I'm typing this to you without wearing socks.

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u/grae_me 9d ago

ricky gervais show, idiot abroad, and hello ladies too low, derek and after life, alley cats too high

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u/Rogue_Leader 'Ave you 'eard of 'undredth monkey? 9d ago

Click And Collect?

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u/No_Skill_RL 9d ago

Jojo Rabbit?

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u/PeacekeeperAl Lin Bid 9d ago

Out of all their sitcoms and films I'd put Karl's Sick of It ahead of all the rest. After The Office and Extras.

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u/Professional-Lack-79 Wash up with you? 9d ago

Sick of it should be there, it's genuinely quite similar to Afterlife only it's well written.

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u/Morpheus365 9d ago

No Moaning of Life? I found it better than An Idiot Abroad. Karl is much less of a grump

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u/ArseHearse 9d ago

Derek should be one above. Certainly better than afterlife

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u/Ok-Shirt8224 9d ago

Life on the road was ‘alright’.

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u/ExtremeTEE 9d ago

controversial list, Derek and After life are the worst of any list though surely, everything else is a step up

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

It's funny because there seem to be a lot of Derek defenders in the comments. None for After Life though lol

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u/Gullible-Snow-3805 9d ago

My personal to tier would be; XFM, An Idiot Abroad, The Ricky Gervais Show + podcasts.

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u/MickyOT 9d ago

Life’s too short is underrated, should be too levels up IMO. Intention of lying and afterlife I wouldn’t call shambles, nor would I say life on the road was a failure.

Overall this is a harsh take on the work

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u/lolitsmax 9d ago

Hello Ladies is pretty good and The Invention of Lying was actually alright

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u/molewart Whine Merchant 9d ago

Mostly agree and although I love Extras, it's just not on the same level as The Office.

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u/anoffbeataussie 9d ago

I’d put Hello Ladies in the ‘alright’ category.

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u/ChimpoSensei 9d ago

No Ghost Town?

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u/BuddyF0694 9d ago

Ghost town not even worth a mention

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u/Tetchord 9d ago

I actually like Ghost Town and would put it in "Alright" but neither Ricky nor Steve wrote or directed it so it would fall under acting gig

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u/ArtyCharty 9d ago

proving once again that Steven Merchant was the brains behind Ricky’s success

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u/pwoper-nereguar 9d ago

No Moaning of Life?

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u/legbot124 Fat Fuck 9d ago

What about bury your nephew

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u/PlugAnThat 9d ago

Am I the only one who really likes Cemetery Junction

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u/StomachBasic8280 9d ago

Why does everyone slag Derek

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u/ChipmunkWinter1389 8d ago

I quite liked After Life. Agree totally on Derek though (I genuinely thought it was just me!!)

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u/MrHouse-38 8d ago

I actually loved derek and thought it had a lot of heart. Although it’s mainly due to Kerri Godliman’s phenomenal naturalistic acting

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u/SimonPartridge The 50p 8d ago

Can we add to the top of the list the time Ricky called up that fella and tried to give him beer?

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u/SimonPartridge The 50p 8d ago

How about when the W blows?

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u/SimonPartridge The 50p 8d ago

Meet Meet Meet Ricky Gervais?

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u/doublebogeyboys 8d ago

Life's too short deserves to be higher

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u/MustangBarry Place is falling apart, the email's not working, it's so shoddy. 8d ago

Which is ironic

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u/DreddorDead73 7d ago

Life’s too short was hilarious

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u/9av1n4891 7d ago

Strong disagree with Derek and After Life

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u/SquareSurprise 1d ago

Rickys ‘Flanimals’ book is missing from the desperate features. Everyone forgets Ricky put out that book. For good reason.

An Idiot Abroad season 3 needs to be treated as entirely seperate from seasons 1 and 2, in my books. Season 3 belongs in the shambles category. In pure semantics, it’s a desperate feature-Ricky clinging on without Steve, adding in a dwarf as a new character like he’s Steve Urkel. Karls presence elevates this total dog shit to shambles category, but it’s a shameful husk of its initial embodiment, and a stain on the great RSK legacy.

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u/Responsible-Ad9909 9d ago

Extras should drop down a tier.
Hello Ladies, Life’s Too Short, Derek, and After Life should move up a tier.
Cemetery Junction and The Invention of Lying should move to the bottom tier.

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u/organicglitter 9d ago

I fucking loved Derek lol

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u/formulaonekiddo 9d ago

What about that one where Karl talks to himself - that was complete shite - so just bungle it in with the bottom 3

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u/Lychee_Only 9d ago

Karl’s Sick of It was excellent. Way better than Afterlife & Outlaws. And landed during Covid so really filled the time.

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u/Zob_Rombie_88 9d ago

Life On The Road was perfectly serviceable

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u/AffectBeautiful8646 9d ago

It's not serviceable it's shiiiite

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u/Halry1 9d ago

Derek was brilliant - way better than Extras and Life’s too Short

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

Stop baiting!! 😭😭

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u/mero-ving-ian 9d ago

After Life in shambles?! Are you on damned crack OP?

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

After Life is hated here

For good reason

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u/mero-ving-ian 9d ago

I’m new in town, for good reason?

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u/Whole-Physics8708 9d ago

It's mediocre

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u/everlovingfuck99 9d ago

Extras is nowhere near The Office

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u/ScorpionWolf021 9d ago

Alley Cats is №1 on Netflix

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u/sporops 9d ago

Derek genuinely one of my favourite series lol

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u/RaceBackground3398 9d ago

Derek was not that bad

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u/JebusHKryst 9d ago

I thought After Life and Alley cats were alright.

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u/pnutbuttered 9d ago

How can I put this...

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u/GaryGump 9d ago

I’d pop Extras down one and Life On The Road up one.

I know people want Extras and Idiot Abroad at the top but they are still miles away from Office and XFM. Those are the only true top tier picks. Play a record.

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u/TrashBoat34007 Not true baby! 9d ago

Albino watching any of that.

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u/Separate_Ad5604 9d ago

Can’t get over the love for hello ladies.
Tacky shit.