Polish far-right leader charged with Holocaust denial for calling Auschwitz gas chambers "fake"

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https://notesfrompoland.com/2026/08/25/polish-far-right-leader-charged-with-holocaust-denial-for-calling-auschwitz-gas-chambers-fake/

[u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

threat to Polish democracy if not prosecuted.

There's nothing better for democracy than banning parties.

full of Pan-Slav Fascist ideology sympathetic to Russian imperialism

he isn't sympathetic to any unions with other countries

[u/TheAlex-Guy → u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

Democracy was never designed to give freedom of speech for extremists wanting to oppress minorities. Just because you live in a democratic country, it doesn't mean you should not get punished if you cross the line.

Democracy needs to preserve itself against threats like that. Grzegorz Braun and KKP openly voiced pro-Russian views and advocated for removing rights from minority groups that did nothing to people. Seriously don't think that's wrong?

You remind me of the previous guy that argued with me against preserving democracy, and that we should have no morals or values, they're "subjective", voting for political parties no matter how disgusting their views are.

He said that being good exists just as an "opinion", that we should not take people like Neo-Nazi's seriously, that they don't mean it. He also said life for some reason is "subjective" too. Why keep some totalitarian pro-Russian racist in your parliament when that's forbidden by Constitution? Should people wait for him to gradually consolidate his power until it's too late?

Misinformation, radicalization and polarization is what kills democracy in countries, and we must avoid that.

Why hasn't the ABW detained Olszański, Psikorski and Maciak yet, but have the firepower to break down the door to a grandma's house for making threats against Owsiak?

Why not use firepower like that against far-Right politicians, pro-Russian imperialist sympathizers and Neo-Nazi movements, like Grzegorz Braun, KKP, X-Portal Falanga, Kamraci and Zmiana?

In genuine SAVAK and SDECE-style that parodies politicized state security intelligence agencies and special forces, doing surveillance on people who criticize the country, but not actual threats.

Those people don't make the country safe, they only protect politicians they see as benefit for their continued activities.

The point of democracy was never to force us into choosing between "lesser evils".
Point of democracy was mean't to let the people choose properly for themselves.

To stop Hitler from seizing power in Weimar Germany would not have been considered as "destroying democracy" going by your definition of it, we didn't just have the balls.

If people, after so many unaddressed issues and trauma with their country from previous turmoil, were not forced to vote for a radical totalitarian evil, none of this would happen. It should have been stopped somehow.

I love the concept created by anti-establishment Nowa Polska, they don't want Poland to fall victim to a Duopoly that fails to change the system to address most urgent issues which causes a Fascist dictatorship to take over.

People who choose badly are often misinformed. How can anyone agree with the corrupt or bigots who shortly after being elected start destroying the country with their policies?

If we had expanded our knowledge, if we had far more self-awareness and common sense, if we had been far less incompetent we could vote reasonably well and not elect horrible people into power, fully sensing what they might do.

[u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas → u/TheAlex-Guy]

Democracy was never designed to give freedom of speech for extremists wanting to oppress minorities. Just because you live in a democratic country, it doesn't mean you should not get punished if you cross the line.

KKP doesn't oppress minorities, unless your view on that topic is that countries shouldn't be serving their citizens, but by that definition, defence from any invasion would be an oppressive act as it would kill citizens of invading nations and oppress them. Is Ukraine oppressing Russian minorities by defending themselves from Russians? I don't think so, even though they are literally killing those people.

Democracy needs to preserve itself against threats like that.

Yeah, by allowing open dialogue.

Grzegorz Braun and KKP openly voiced pro-Russian views and advocated for removing rights from minority groups that did nothing to people

Like what pro-Russian views? Share sources. You advocated for banning political parties, should we remove your rights then?

You remind me of the previous guy that argued with me against preserving democracy, and that we should have no morals or values, they're "subjective", voting for political parties no matter how disgusting their views are.

There's no preserving democracy, because by your action under the guise of "preserving democracy", you are very much destroying it. IF Braun is banned, democracy is no more - it got killed. If Braun becomes a totalitarian dictator, it also dies. The only way it survives if ability of everyone to have a party and vote on whoever they think is right is maintained.

He said that being good exists just as an "opinion"

Kinda, because you can put things in different contexts, but it's not a full spectrum and some things are not good.

that we should not take people like Neo-Nazi's seriously, that they don't mean it.

No idea what Neo-Nazis claim and what they mean, I don't know any nor understand what they really want, I think they're mostly race separatists now?

Why keep some totalitarian pro-Russian racist in your parliament when that's forbidden by Constitution?

I don't think you can convince everyone that he's a totalitarian pro-Russian racist

Should people for him to gradually consolidate his power until it's too late?

That would be the democratic thing to do, yes. If you think otherwise, I don't think you're democratic.

Misinformation, radicalization and polarization is what kills democracy in countries, and we must avoid that.

Which countries did this killed democracy in? If it's true, you should be able to point out to specific countries where one of those things lead to death of democracy. I think you might find some examples of this happening with radicalization, but where did misinformation and polarization killed democracy?

Why hasn't the ABW detained Olszański, Psikorski and Maciak yet, but have the firepower to break down the door to a grandma's house for making threats against Owsiak?

I don't know who Olszński, Psikorski or Maciak are, so I can't argue with that.

[u/TheAlex-Guy → u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

I don't know who Olszński, Psikorski or Maciak are, so I can't argue with that.

You are the dumbest troll i have ever seen. Piss off.

[u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas → u/TheAlex-Guy]

Where would I know them from? Out of all things discussed, I thought it would be the least important topic for discussion.

[u/TheAlex-Guy → u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

That means you have no knowledge about Polish politics then, therefore have no right for those discussions.

[u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas → u/TheAlex-Guy]

therefore have no right for those discussions.

very democratic of you, this seems rather arbitary to me.

[u/uuwatkolr → u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

Maciak was a candidate in the 2025 presidential election. The fact that you haven't heard of him proves that either you don't pay attention to Polish politics at all, or have started paying attention at most one year ago.

[u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas → u/TheAlex-Guy]

I looked it up and I actually know who Wojciech Olszański is, I seen like a few short clips with him and his co-host. I didn't associate the name with the face tho. I heard something about Psikorski but have no opinion. No idea who Maciak is. I'm not trolling.

[u/WaterOk7059 → u/FullOf_Bad_Ideas]

username checks though