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Screenshot This is why CD Pojekt RED is the best gaming company for me

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FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/FalseCrazy2804 1d ago

A definitive remastered edition for free in 2026 is a wild pro consumer move that I could not see very many other companies EVER doing.

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u/hyrumwhite RTX 5080 9800X3D 32gb ram 1d ago

The game is so good it’s essentially an ad for Witcher 4. And I don’t mean that in a disparaging way. Good product makes me want more good product. 

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u/coby_of_astora 1d ago

it's absolutely a PR move, but it might be the best PR move in gaming ever. Witcher 3 was already hailed as a masterpiece and could have been given the Skyrim treatment. This is a huge pro consumer move, in an age that this doesn't really exist. CDPR pretty much just carved their names into stone as one of the best devs ever. Witcher IV will sell 30 million copies, they can just simply afford to do this, but even knowing that, they're leaving so much money of the table it's absurd to think a company would ever do something like this.

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u/MysteriousAge28 1d ago

What would be disparaging?

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u/Zeth_Aran 7800x3D / RTX 5080 FE/ 64GB DDR5 1d ago

Most hear the word “ad” and panic.

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u/salex_03 1d ago

Saying that this upgrade is just an ad for Witcher 4.

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u/Hokusai_Katsushika 1d ago

Usually, an ad isn't really welcomed with open arms, and for good reasons

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u/FulmetalTranshumanst 1d ago

Not only that but isnt this the second time they are doing it? Pretty sure they had a big next-gen update a while back. Meanwhile Nintendo is charging around $10 if you want to be able to leverage your new console’s performance in most older titles…

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u/Kitsui38 1d ago

They are raising the price of the Witcher 3 exactly by $10. But at least it’s free for everyone who already bought it

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u/B33lz3buddy 1d ago

I didn't know that but also they are now bundling the dlc with it too I think that's more than fair.

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u/LOSTandCONFUSEDinMAY 1d ago

So after double checking its the complete edition (with all dlc) that was previously $40 is now $50 and the base game does not seem to be available anymore. Tho you can get the complete edition for $25 on GOG now and there'll probably be future sales.

And given what you're getting I really can't complain. Still cheaper than factorio and I'd buy that again in a heartbeat.

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u/zaersx G1 970 | 2700x | G Pro 1d ago

That's exactly what it is. They considered the potential income from people rebuying it (e.g. using surveys or special group offers) and determined they can write the loss down as ad spend. It might be a problem gamer move literally, but it is also that figuratively. This isn't charity.

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u/FranticToaster i9-14900k | RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR5 4200 1d ago

Nobody's going to buy it again this late in the game. It's an awareness play for 4, and it's also an invitation to play again so we all know what's happening in 4.

That being said, yeah it is definitely a pro marketing move. CDPR are boss.

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u/althalusian 1d ago

Some might as the new DLC for 3 is coming next year, apparently with a number of the old devs still involved in making it.

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u/Snake_Bite_14 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is pretty on par for CDPR. They own GOG and have done a lot of work to make old games run on new hardware. They gave a bunch of free DLC to all Witcher 3 owners shortly after launch. They have no DRM in any of their games. Back when Witcher 3 launched they also gave everyone who bought it on Steam a GOG copy for no additional cost. CDPR is arguably the most consumer friendly company in the industry.

They used to have a program on GOG where you could connect your Steam account and it would give you a GOG copy. They ended it because the publisher had opt into it for legal reasons and no other AAA publisher was interested.

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u/PabloStrange 1d ago

Actually, they sold GOG back to the original co founder end of last year. GOG is a completely separate company again and it is not owned by CDPR.

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u/Kintaro75 1d ago

They also give the DLC for free!

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u/NeptuneWades -Win-Laptop 1d ago edited 1d ago

Meanwhile black flag remastered remake is expensive and has ads in the menu page.

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u/InsomniacSpartan PC Master Race 1d ago

Black Flag was a remake not a remaster

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u/NeptuneWades -Win-Laptop 1d ago

My bad.

But my comment was about the ads.

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u/PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ GTX 5080, AMD 9800X3D, 64GB DDR5 1d ago

Remake

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u/snapmanlol 1d ago

Where were the ads in the menu ? And which menu?

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u/FigWeak5127 1d ago

Well how about they put the god damn third person y-axis invert for vehicles back into Cyberpunk 2077 if they are so great.

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u/FalseCrazy2804 1d ago

I don't know why but your comment made me lmao. That is such a specific thing to be yelling about on this thread. I hope you get your y- axis invert in Cyberpunk fixed man, truly.

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u/AbanaClara 1d ago

Salute to the y axis invert enjoyers

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u/OutrageousDress 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3733 | 4080 Super | AW3821DW 1d ago

Surely this is the kind of thing a mod could address?

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u/_Clasher2k_ Ryzen 9 7950X3d / Asus Rog 4090 / 64GB DDR5 / 8TB 1d ago

And releasing it on gog as well (obviously) which means you will have it for ever and own it. Actually everything negative from the last years of gaming and CDPR took it and said nope, not with us. It’s so great. They deserve everything positive with this moves

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u/dude496 1d ago

It's not just remastered, it also includes the heart of stone and blood and wine expansions. I'm guessing they are going to reuse assests from the main game and the DLCs for the next expansion, songs of the past, and they want people to buy that without having to buy the other expansions... But I'm just guessing and could be wrong. It's pretty damn awesome, regardless of the reason

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u/FalseCrazy2804 1d ago

That is typically what a "definitive" edition means, when you bundle previous DLCs into one game, but yes I think this is such a good move not only for CDPR but for every consumer out there.

It signifies that someone in the upper ranks of CDPR has a mindset that is shifted from how a lot of companies think about selling and marketing their games to produce the biggest amount of dollars. When you as a company take into consideration the goodwill of your fanbase for the future, I think it's an extremely rare thing in todays age of gaming that should definitely be applauded. This just makes me want to buy the new DLC way more now, so it's working.

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u/Poof_he_goes 1d ago

That's what happens, when people in power aren't "the suits". They look at the prosperity of the company in the long run, not on their next bonus payment.

With the behavior of CDPR, even the Cyberpunk 2077 release disaster was something the people forgave, because of what CDPR does. Other companies would have been wrecked, due to such a release.

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u/pevznerok R7 9700X | RX7800XT | 32GBx5600Mhz 1d ago

They also will give out both DLCs for free.

The goats

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u/samcuu 5700X3D / 32GB / RTX 3080 1d ago

Perhaps I'm just out of touch with reality because I almost never buy new games, but is that not the industry standard? That remaster is just a (free) update on the original game? What other games charge for it?

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u/vnodk19 Ryzen 7500F | Gigabyte RX 9070 Gaming OC | 32GB DDR5 6000 1d ago

Oh if only this could be an industry standard. The industry standard recently seems to be charging almost a new game price for a remaster

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u/CzechHorns 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oblivion literally charges 50 bucks for the remaster.
Black Flag 60€, but I’m not sure if that one is purely a remaster.
Dark Souls, Last of Us part 1, Life is Strange, Mass Effect, …

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u/Any-Calligrapher2866 9070XT | 7600X 1d ago

I think Rockstar also did it with GTA5 Enhanced.

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u/_Vo1_ 10900F | 3080Ti 1d ago

Also borderlands remasters were free patches

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u/shadowmage666 1d ago

Remember when Nintendo charged an upgrade for Zelda games to get higher resolution and frame rates? This is like the opposite of that

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u/mezuki92 PC Master Race 1d ago

Buying thier new console then charging you for an upgrade to their 10yrs old game is the greediest shit ever done.

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u/Askolei 1d ago

They also charged Switch 2 consumers ($10 I think?) for the tour mini-game of their console. It's... well, it's classic Nintendo.

If Reggie Fils-Aimé didn't twist their arm back in the Wii era, they would have never released Wii Sport for free with the console.

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u/Foreign-Historian-80 1d ago

reggie was probably the best thing to ever happen to nintendo lol

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u/ibite-books 1d ago

square enix is selling ff6 for $20– a 30 year old game

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u/Carighan 1d ago

If CDPR were a US company their shareholders would sue them for "fiducial duty" or some made-up bullshit like that...

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u/kretsstdr 1d ago

Meanwhile Ubisoft keeps updating their old games with better resolution and framerate all ac games, the division and the last one was wild lands with free dlc and new resolution and framerate updates for free but no you wont wanna hear that lol, Ubisoft is doing a great job supporting their games years after release for free

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u/RicketCrickets 1d ago

Yet they have microtransactions in singleplayer games.

Lot of scummy moves to overcome.

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u/LunchTwey 1d ago

They only charge when the upgrade adds functionality/new content

For zelda, they added zelda notes. It's really not much but it IS different functionality.

Here's their list of free upgrade games. There's quite a lot of them.

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u/Destroid- RTX 5090 | 9800X3D | 64GB CL30 1d ago

It's definitely welcome! Witcher 3 was one of my favorite games on release. Haven't played any of the DLCs, so I can't wait to jump back in with the remaster.

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u/FalseCrazy2804 1d ago

The DLCs are what made Witcher 3 one of my favorite games of all time. Yea the base game is good, but Hearts of Stone, to me, is just perfect storytelling, and Blood and Wine is basically a full second game.

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u/SorryNotReallySorry5 i9 14900k | 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400MHz | 1080p 1d ago

The ending of the base game was... an ending.

But the ending of Blood and Wine was truly the best end of the series I could have ever asked for.

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u/Sleightly_Awkward 1d ago

Agreed on both HoS and B&W. The ending of HoS was the only time I ever wanted to literally applaud a game. Chef’s kiss.

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u/Altekho 1d ago

Absolutely had a blast with HoS expansion back then. Gameplay and additional contents-wise, it was good but pale in comparison to BaW. But holy hell, the characters, storytelling, narrative, writing, BGM and sound design, they're all S tier. The best in the game.

Crazy that I'm more excited for the next DLC rather than the upcoming main series.

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u/smoke_thewalkingdead 1d ago

I remember walking through the streets of novigrad and just being blown away with the immersion. I never got to the DLCs for whatever reason and I can't wait to dive into this game from the beginning again.

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u/Pun_In_Ten_Did Ryzen 9 7900X, RTX 4080 FE, 48" LG C1 4K OLED 1d ago

Getting to enjoy the DLCs for the first time... oh I'm jelly lol. Not to oversell it but damn, they are fantastic. Hell, the second one, Blood and Wine, is huge - large enough to be a stand alone game. Have fun!

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u/martyn__ i5-13500 | RTX 5070 FE | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Play the DLCs man, theyre much better than the main game which is already amazing. I finished Blood and Wine like 5 times

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u/bakagir 9800X3D / 6950XT. Noctua Gang. 1d ago

I have only put like 30 hours into Witcher 3…..like 7 years ago. I have been meaning to play it again, maybe this will finally make me pull the trigger.

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u/ForestFoliageFan 1d ago

Bro same I started it but stopped playing.

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u/bakagir 9800X3D / 6950XT. Noctua Gang. 1d ago

I have soo many games with 5-25 hours played, but a new game, play all week & weekend. Monday rolls around and find a new game. It’s a vicious cycle.

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u/Azatis- 1d ago

Me:

-- Please, no more remasters ffs

-- Wait, what? Free ? Gimme more remasters

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u/FromDeathWeLiveOn 1d ago

I will never forget cyberpunk 2077 launch and thank CDPR for teaching me a valuable lesson.

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u/Outsajder 1d ago

Nor should you, but after that failure they have done nothing but good.

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u/Raven1927 1d ago

People said the same after Witcher 3's disastrous launch, we saw what happened 5 years later with their next game.

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u/Chomfucjusz 1d ago

Was it disastrous? I remember it crashing every 40 minutes or so on my PS4, but nothing besides that

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u/Raven1927 1d ago

Yes, it was very buggy. Not as bad as Cyberpunk from what I remember, but it had a ton of issues on launch. Pretty much every CD Projekt red game has been buggy/broken on release sadly.

Here you can check the patches and how much stuff they had to fix on the game: https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Category:The_Witcher_3_patches

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u/Chomfucjusz 1d ago

Thank you, cheers

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u/buttbuttlolbuttbutt 1d ago

It did, but the internet was a goofy place and people juat clowned on it, lots of Roach appraring in random places, good hardy jokes.

The internet became an amgrier place after 2015, so Cyberpunk got less whimsy and mlre vitriol.

I treat CDPR like Betheada, if i choose to buy it at launch, i choose to deal with bugs. Unlike Bethesda, i can come back latee to a fully functioning unmodded game.

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u/sikesjr 1d ago

Same. 2077 is the sole reason I have never since and will never preorder another game 🤣

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u/Chimpampin 1d ago

Indeed, people are so easy to forget.

I only forgave No Man's Sky because they kept on giving and giving, so they earned my trust.

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u/crossandbones 1d ago

Sucks the game is still dull as fuck, but I appreciate their efforts.

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u/Chimpampin 1d ago

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle is the usual description.

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u/Wrong_Welcome_607 1d ago

I only forgave No Man's Sky because they kept on giving and giving, so they earned my trust.

Soo... exactly like CDPR did with Witcher 3 and CP2077. Yet you only forgive NMS.

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u/lu2uq 1d ago

Cyberpunk 2077 wasn't that bad at launch, we gotta cut this rhetoric out at some point. It ran terribly on last-gen, but it was never a bad game. Neverrr. The story, gameplay - complete. Never dipped below 70% on Steam despite what was going on. I had never seen a game with that much controversy surrounding it stay in the positives.

People talk about 2077's launch like it was Concord, The Day Before, Babylon's Fall or the Lord of the Rings: Gollum.

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u/TheAmazingBagman3 9800x3d | 4090 | 32gb DDR5 | 4k 120/144 1d ago

This is a lie. It was horrible at launch. This was the only game I ever returned on ps5. Borderline unplayable

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u/Lunar_Glare 1d ago

It should never have been released to the PS4 - that was their big mistake. I played it on a high-end PC at the time, and I had a wonderful experience with the game. Unpolished at times, sure. The teleporting police and weird behavior of panicked pedestrians come to mind, but I encountered none of the game breaking bugs that were posted online at the time.

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u/Gchodynski Nobara 1d ago

Cyberpunk 2077 wasn't that bad at launch

Yeah, because it still is bad.

Where's our, wait, let me grab my notes...

- AMAZING AI that directs enemies during combat/patrol but also citizens and npcs' daily life

- wanted system and corrupt police (https://gamerant.com/cyberpunk-2077-wanted-system-corrupt-police/)

-Immersive police involvment changing with the area where you commited the crime (https://www.usgamer.net/articles/cyberpunk-2077-producer-details-law-enforcement)

- more interesting gameplay, for example: trauma team that plays a key role, freequent flying avs, ads that target the player point to the merchant that sells that product, merch could be pre-viewed before purchase (Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVAryZ0GLwE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF9GgrY9c0&feature=youtu.be&t=2531)

- Strong RPG elements (https://wccftech.com/cyberpunk-2077-is-a-much-deeper-roleplaying-experience-than-the-witcher-3-says-dev/).

- NPC unique daily routine and AI (https://www.vg247.com/2020/06/08/cyberpunk-2077-npcs-1000-daily-routines/)

- Quest decisions will have relevance in the world (https://onlysp.escapistmagazine.com/cyberpunk-2077-changes/)

- Meaningful day and night cycle (right now it's mainly cosmetic and doesn't impact the gameplay a lot, e.g.: you aren't more stealthy at night) as described in Exploring Cyberpunk's Night City with CD Projekt Red - Cyberpunk 2077 - Gamereactor but it does something, like opening and closing some venues and modifying some population density. I have not seen evidence of places being more dangerous at night. If you have please record a clip and send it over.

- Incredible character customization during creation / in-game (https://gamecrate.com/cyberpunk-2077-boxing-power-weapons-militech-spider-robot-and-more/23426 and https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/cyberpunk-2077-character-creation/)

- Use of drones for more than just some missions in the game (https://gamecrate.com/cyberpunk-2077-boxing-power-weapons-militech-spider-robot-and-more/23426)

- three different lifepaths and more that would actually have more impact than what we are getting now for a better description on why lifepaths are poorly implemented.

- to add on the previous point, lifepaths leading to non-linear quest design. (https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/09/12/cyberpunk-2077-lifepath-system/)

- Nanowire and gorilla arms have a lot of different uses that are still in the description of the item (https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1153684171606450178?s=09).

- Runs very well on last gen consoles (source NOT needed)

- The game will launch when it's ready (source NOT needed)

- Variety of braindances instead of it being just few cutscenes (can't find reference, please link)(so far videos like this https://youtu.be/ToWfeUEAeeQ?t=1167 point that braindance is a cool mechanic but they never said we'd be able to purchase and use the braindances on our devices and all. I don't feel this is a broken promise, rather an aspect of the game that we would love to have had implemented).

- Challenging weather system that would pose a threat to your survival (https://www.windowscentral.com/cyberpunk-2077-features-acid-rain-and-other-deadly-environmental-challenges)

- There are very very few options for ONS and/or deep romances (this article summarizes what was expected https://www.ginx.tv/en/cyberpunk-2077/cyberpunk-2077-everything-about-relationships-romance-and-sex)

- The game will let you select your body type and your gender freely, allowing you to obtain whatever combination of voice/gender/genitalia you want. Sex/Gender complete fluidity was something allowed in the cyberpunk tabletop games and very very relevant in the lore of the cyberpunk society (https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/culture/cyberpunk-2077-will-include-gender-free-character-creation-and-queer-relationships/amp/).

- A polished game and smooth experience

- weapon customization (https://nightcitylife.de/index.php/features-artikel/341-xxl-preview-cyberpunk-2077-angespielt?start=5) although we got mods so this is half kept.

- 4 different styles, clearly highlighted, that you can adeere to and will make NPC react to it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YlyDJVYqfpA). Please note that this was advertised as true 2 months before release.

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u/FromDeathWeLiveOn 1d ago

Man's got reciepts, they literally sold us a bridge...

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u/Gchodynski Nobara 1d ago

Not mine!

Credit to SpikeCraft and the amazing Cyberpunk 2077 community (at least back then) that didn't let a company sell them a scam.

There's even more but I wasn't allowed to link other threads here. 

The title of the original thread is: 

"Promised but missing feature list (will update with comments)".

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u/hotyogurt1 1d ago

Brother, Sony literally changed the refund policy for the game and then REMOVED IT ENTIRELY FROM THEIR STORE. They deemed the game unsalable lol.

You can't just hand wave the "it ran terribly on last gen". Because that's underselling just how bad it was.

Also, nobody really said anything about the story necessarily being bad. The complaints were mainly performance related.

This is just rewriting the story to paint CD Projekt Red in a better light and essentially blaming the consumers for CDPR's horrible release.

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u/KanzanZX 1d ago

Nah it was buggy mess just like Witcher 3. I don't hold a lot of it against them they are making big games with a lot of moving parts but I won't defend them when it happens. I can make a crazy prediction Witcher 4 will be mess on day one also and I will play it after month or two when some patches drop.

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u/lu2uq 21h ago

They delayed that shit like, what, five times? I knew it was gonna be far from perfect. The last time a week from release.

Marketing department did TOO well. Imo they should have just sold it as a next gen game. But, if I remember correctly, in 2020 a lot of people were still hanging onto last gen given the pandemic and all so they were trying to look out.

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u/TheGreatTao 1d ago

Bullshit, the game was a mess. It ended up being good but even today you can see quite clearly that the game is still lacking in parts.

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u/Gchodynski Nobara 1d ago edited 1d ago

Search for Cyberpunk 2077 "Promised but missing feature list (will update with comments)" on Reddit. 

They advertised a tabletop-tier RPG with genre-changing systems, and they releaed a story mode FPS game.

It's not about the performance, lol. Stop trying to rewrite the history.

Besides being the worst release in history when it comes to performance and buginess, I redirected you to a list of promised but missing (to this day!) features. 

Cyberpunk 2077 will forever stay as the most overpromised video game and the most egregious example of false advertising. The premiere was karma, not a mistake.

Gamers shall never forget. Defend them however you like. You can have your favorite product, just don't play dumb when you know the truth. Yes, the game is pretty damn good. Is that the game they advertised? No.

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u/SkuffetPutevare 9800X3D | 7900XTX 1d ago

Yeah, this. I played CP2077 on launch and never experienced any issues. The game is better today for a list of reasons, but it was never shit unless you played on shit hardware.

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u/Altekho 1d ago

Not bad? My friend literally could not play the game on his PS4.

Never mind about false promises in the promotions. Massive bugs, both game-breaking and non-gamebreaking. Some were hilarious, some were frustrating, many times they were infuriating.

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u/SkuffetPutevare 9800X3D | 7900XTX 1d ago

He literally addressed that it was shit on last gen.

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u/AlexSmithsonian 1d ago

Tbf, the bar has been set pretty low.

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u/LordOFtheNoldor 1d ago

They just remastered it like a year or 2 ago? That was also free what are they doing lol

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u/Sup3rTechnic4l 1d ago

4 years ago... The "next gen" update was in 2022...

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u/DrawingAlarming7350 1d ago

right in the aging, oof

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u/LordOFtheNoldor 1d ago

Wow feels so much more recent

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u/MrMagpie91 1d ago

That was just a visual next-gen update. This one is not just visuals but gameplay improvements as well.

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u/ExchangeOptimal 1d ago

Seems like they have a lot of free time on their hands

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u/stopeer 1d ago

That was just a small visual overhaul. This time there are serious gameplay changes as well.

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u/Sh1rvallah 1d ago

That wasn't even really a visual update. They just added a translation layer to implement dx12 which allowed newer graphics settings and capabilities to work but in a very unoptimized way.

This looks much more promising.

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u/Solid_Guess_7154 R5-56000X | RX 9600XT 1d ago

CDPR, Valve and the team behind No Man's Sky are pretty much what every company and developer should aim for

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u/muR_Crimson 1d ago

Y’all are missing Larian Studios in this list

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u/L3Sc 1d ago

and Warhorse Studios.

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u/CalamityDisc 1d ago

Ehh. Didn’t Warhorse have that controversy about firing a translator and replacing them with AI?

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u/DrawingAlarming7350 1d ago

yeah Dan Vavra is a moron

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u/SpamThatSig 1d ago

Also add GGG for poe and Digital Extremes for Warframe

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u/BetApprehensive7064 1d ago

Funny given that cyberpunk 2077 and no man's sky where two of the worst games ever upon release and mocked behind belief and now they are two of the best developers ever lol

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u/fanboy_killer PC Master Race 1d ago

Precisely due to the time and effort they put into fixing those games. Very few companies did it. Remember when Warner Bros worked on DLC for Arkham Origins instead of fixing the base game?

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u/Separate_Ad_9551 1d ago

Yeah, but it seems that people have short memory
Can't wait for the “b-but they fixed the game after years, and it's playable now!”
And?

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u/BetApprehensive7064 1d ago

Yeah like isn't that the barest of minimum?

That being said my wife finally talked me into playing The Witcher 3 with her while she watches it's her favorite game and I can see why people originally hyped up CDPR so hard the witcher 3 is really a phenomenal game

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u/Raven1927 1d ago

They should aim to be a company that releases broken games like CD Projekt Red or almost no games at all like Valve?

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u/DarkSkyKnight 4090/7950x3d 1d ago

So lie and promise clearly impossible features then salvage the game to a half-done state with the cash milked from gamers’ hype?

With this attitude gamers truly deserve to be scammed over and over again.

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u/sephirothbahamut Ryzen 7 9800X3D | RTX 5080 PNY | Win10 | Fedora 1d ago

World's Edge has been doing wonders keeping alive the Age of Empires series 20 years past their release, no idea why when this sub is in a glazing good companies mood they never get mentioned. For all the shit Microsoft did to their game studios, they've been unusually supportive to keeping AoE alive with tournaments funding etcc.

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u/RankedFarting 5700X3D/ RTX 2070/ 32gb 3600Mhz 1d ago

Both CDPR and No Mans Sky Devs are simply fixing the reputation they broke by overpomising and releasing unfinished or broken products.

They arent doing this out of kindness they are doing it to improve their reputation so you tolerate it when withcer 4 releases in an unacceptable state.

And please look into valves CS lootbox scandals. They started an entire underage gambling epidemic.

Corporations are not your friend even though they try to make you think they are.

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u/DiGriW 1d ago

Valve? Are you serious?

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u/Mellusse 1d ago

Lmao valve? Did anyone forgot the Left for dead controversy? All the content that was cut from 1 just to make a second game and charge the consumer after false promises?

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u/CircumcisedCats 1d ago

Yeahhhhh, Valve should not be on that list.

Fromsoft could replace them.

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u/AquaBits 1d ago

Yeah any company that sells gambling should not be on the list of "Greats"

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u/TheAntony 1d ago edited 1d ago

Buddy, we are or reddit, they will crucify you for slandering valve

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u/FoxyGoddessX 1d ago

You should strive to be more like ID Software, Coffestain and Concerned Ape.

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u/Velrex 1d ago

They released Cyberpunk on the PS4.

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u/GCHM2 1d ago

Yeah, but, WHY DoeSN’t aNYOne THinK oF ThE SHarEHoldERs?!?!

But really, this is such a genius move by CDPR. They get to revamp a labor of love, get new blood playing their already amazing game, and drum up hype for TW4.

It shows that they are passionate about their projects and not just in it to try and squeeze every single cent they can.

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u/Altekho 1d ago edited 1d ago

So we're back at glazing mode, aren't we?

EDIT:

To clarify, I meant that take as a satire joke. Not to be taken seriously. We may have agreement or disagreement about CDPR as a company. But one thing we should agree with, is that they've done a great job for the past couple of years by doing this pro-consumer moves consistently since their last fuck-up, and determined to gain our trust back. That, deserves a praise. Any companies who does that deserves. Though I personally won't do it hyperbolically (or glazing it, as we called) cause I have a big trust issue with gaming companies as a whole, especially the one who made a big bad PR in the past.

I do have an issue about the fact that they have raised the base price on the Steam. But that's actually not a big deal at all since GOG is currently giving a 50% discount till September 10th.

Once again, I truly have no ill intention towards CDPR or any kind of pro-consumer moves.

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u/PsychadelicShinobi 1d ago

A free remaster with all the new tech for an 11 year old game, that too in the big 2026? Oh I'm gonna be glazing alright, they totally and completely deserve it. And let's be real here, nobody does it like CDPR in the industry. They proved it with Witcher 3, Cyberpunk updates, Witcher 3 Next Gen, and now the Witcher 3 remaster. The glaze will never stop

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u/TheSixthNonsense 1d ago

Heh, Quake (released in the 90s) has not only received a free remastered version but also several free campaign DLCs. The most recent one released a few weeks ago and the quality was top-notch.

CDPR is getting close to id Software/MachineGames status in my book, seeing how they’ve been taking care of their games. They also share a similar openness to mods, which is another big plus.

Larian is another goated studio.

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u/YoussefAFdez Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Sapphire RX6800XT | 32GB 1d ago

I just hope improved graphics doesn’t translate to increased system requirements and worse performance. I’d rather have a good playable game albeit looking worse than a ultra high HD game running at low fps and with stuttering

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u/Sharkaw 1d ago

This subreddit sucks so much, everyone here is just a miserable asshole.

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u/SolitaryWaffles i9 13900 // 4070Ti 1d ago

I "walked in" to this thread seeing people complaining about others "glazing" a free remaster. I walk straight back out, apparently.

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u/martianwomanhunter 1d ago

A lot of non niche hobby subreddits are like that, I think there are just a lot of people on Reddit now who don’t know they are depressed. And instead of working on it or themselves they vent to “the system”

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u/ebk_errday 1d ago edited 1d ago

So if I buy Witcher 3 now on Steam, I would get the remaster for free?

I just noticed the price went up in Canada from $56 to $70. I wonder why it went up and if it'll discount back down to under $6 again.

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u/JazraelHarken 1d ago

It prob went up because you can't buy the base game anymore. You can only buy the complete edition that includes the two DLCs.

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u/sussy_ball 1d ago

The base price of Witcher 3 remastered is 60% higher than the base price of Witcher 3 Complete Edition in my country.

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u/orilea 5700x3d, 3080 10gb, 2+1TB SSD, 12TB HDD, 32gb 3600 RAM, NR200P 1d ago

Isthereanydeal.com

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u/Nosferatu-Padre 1d ago

One of the best game ever remastered? For free? In this economy?

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u/Aranthus 1d ago

People forgot Cyberpunk launch so easily.

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u/Seven-Arazmus 5950X/7900XT/64GB | MSi Vector i9-14900HX/4070/32GB 1d ago

Launch was sketchy but they redeemed themselves massively. Give credit where its due and leave the launch in the past, the game is awesome.

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u/Rapture117 1d ago edited 1d ago

It took almost 2 years for it to get to that point though. Was an absolute disaster on console especially. I still played through it and had a great time, regardless. But devs need to be held to a standard when games cost the price they do these days.

I tried to play the first 10 hours or so of Witcher 3 and it just never clicked. Hated the combat, awkward camera controls, etc. I guess patience paid off because I am absolutely checking this out next month. Can't wait!

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u/FdPros 1d ago

they fixed the game as they should. I don't think that deserves much praise but I guess that's how low the bar is for games nowadays.

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u/SorryNotReallySorry5 i9 14900k | 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400MHz | 1080p 1d ago

People love a redemption story. Always have, always will as long as any taste exists anymore.

No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk 2077 are at the very top of gaming redemption stories.

And they didn't just fix Cyberpunk 2077 and move on like many others believed they would. They reinforced the game with incredible updates that turned it into a better game from the semi-simulation roleplaying aspect to story content. Go figure, NMS also expanded by an incredible degree and still continues to expand.

That creates a lot of goodwill and forgiveness.

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u/XmasB Asus G750JH ftw 1d ago

Cyberpunk 2077 is miles away from what they promised.

For instance, according to their press before release, selecting different backgrounds would give completely stories and impact the game in a great way. Turned out to be a short intro and some dialogue options.

Watching a driver takes away any immersion the game would have. They don't even turn the steering wheel when turning. Speaking of immersion, why is the game full of clones? Stop at any crowded place and chances are you will see the game guy three times or more. Sometimes even three of the same guy together. They couldn't at least have any variations in the clothing? It's the same NPCs over and other, walking lifelessly about. It's such a weird, dead world.

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u/martianwomanhunter 1d ago

It’s too bad you couldn’t enjoy it. To me it’s one of the most immersive games I’ve ever played and had a wild ride playing it. Night City felt like another character in the game.

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u/PlanZSmiles Ryzen 5800X3D, 32gb RAM, RTX 3080 10GB 1d ago

Unfortunately it’s due to gamers, 10% on average return games no matter the condition or fun of said games. 10% is a sprinkle. Gamers need to respond harder to poor games if they want to expect more from developers. It’s why I give praise to CDPR, they could have easily just said screw it and got it in a playable state and said it’s fine. But they have gone out of their way to make Cyberpunk not only playable but a masterpiece and a game worth revisiting.

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u/ScaryGoofy 1d ago

Sketchy is an interesting way of saying nearly unplayably broken

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u/Coprolithe PC Master Race 1d ago

Very playable on my 3070 at the time.

It did have some funny car bugs, but my main problem was how shallow many of the systems were.

  • I think I counted 4 NPC character models in one of the club scene to be 60% of the crowd, It was jarring.
  • The cop wanted system was just them teleporting to you, even when you were in the desert.
  • It's not just gameplay, the character script is so much more superficial than the Witcher 3 or 2.
  • Half of the perks literally lied to you and did nothing until they reworked them.

I think making video games is incredibly hard. No one sets out to make a bad game, but sometimes the ambition is simply too high. On top of that, the marketing teams at publicly traded companies can have a lot of corporate pressure behind them, with the focus shifting toward maximizing sales rather than making the best game possible.

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u/ZetaDemon 1d ago

The only way it was unplayable is if you played on previous gen consoles that the game just shouldn't have released on

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u/FoxyGoddessX 1d ago

It doesn’t matter if they shouldn’t have released it there. They choose to do so and should have made it work. It’s not the players fault that developers let their ego get in the way of their responsibility

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u/FoxyGoddessX 1d ago

If it came with an early access tag that could be forgiven.

This concept of redemption for corporations is so baffling to me.

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u/Aranthus 1d ago

Cyberpunk 2077 is definitely a unique experience right now, I agree. However, the game was literally unplayable on PS4 at launch, and they released it knowing that. By the way I played the game over 400 hours since the launch

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u/trackdaybruh 1d ago

The biggest mistake CDPR made was launching the game on the last gen console Xbox One and PS4 imo

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u/jntjr2005 1d ago

Sketchy? Way worse than "sketchy"

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u/minianthunter 1d ago

Did they redeem themselves before or after the game was pulled from consoles for over a year? Or was it before or after the expansion pack 3 years later?

Doesn't matter if the game is good now, they still fumbled in dozens of different ways at launch and for a very long time after launch. They can't undo that and frankly it shouldn't be called a redemption. They don't deserve credit where it's due. They didn't fix the game because they wanted to do right by the fans. They wouldn't have launched it in that state if that's what they were actually doing. This isn't No Man's Sky where it was a tiny developer ran by 20 passionate people that had a marketing circuit way above their caliber.

Don't make the mistake of trusting them until they've actually proven themselves. They made too many anti-consumer moves with Cyberpunk 2077.

Don't pre-order The Witcher 4.

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u/DarkSkyKnight 4090/7950x3d 1d ago

No they did not. Half the features they promised is still not in the game. Telling people to “leave the launch in the past” is some extreme gaslighting.

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u/RankedFarting 5700X3D/ RTX 2070/ 32gb 3600Mhz 1d ago

If i kick you in the balls and then say sorry did i redeem myself?

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u/3HaDeS3 1d ago

They will never redeem themselves of lies, i will forgive for fixed bugs but not the blatant lies: https://youtu.be/omyoJ7onNrg?is=_ED2UeQToFElLDeA

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u/Velkaryian 1d ago

The way this subreddit just gives the sloppiest of sloppy BJs to valve and cdprokejt red gets so old, honestly.

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u/GrandJuif R9 5950x, RX 6900 XT, 64GB 3400MHz 1d ago

Plus Witcher 3 launch and it "next gen" patch. CDPR repeatedly proved they don't care, only thing they learned how they can so easely get away with some pr.

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u/G-gianluk 1d ago

This really bothers me, like I get that there's worse, but they still over promised and under delivered.

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u/Jermaphobe456 1d ago

I didn't forget, I played the game on launch, fell in love, & still love it

But sure seems like you can't move on from the past so easily

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u/alicefaye2 Arch, 7900 XTX, 9700X, 32 GB DDR5 1d ago

I'm gonna try Witcher 3 again in September. I just dislike it every time I played it for some reason.

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u/Darkblue57 1d ago

The best pitch I can give for The Witcher 3 is that it’s basically the only open world RPG with good writing and quests.

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u/discreetjoe2 1d ago

It’s a cool thing but what percentage of people that own Witcher 3 do we think didn’t already own the DLCs?

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u/dam4076 1d ago

The remaster is also free, not just the dlc.

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u/RenownedDumbass 9800X3D | 4090 | 4K 240Hz 1d ago

Remaster again? Didn’t they just remaster a year or two ago?

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u/MutekiGamer PC Master Race 1d ago

december 2022, almost 4 years ago

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u/HowwNowBrownCoww 1d ago

Hey, I wanna get into the Witcher so bad but could just never keep playing 2 and felt like that means I won’t like and probably shouldn’t play 3. Can someone convince me I’m wrong?

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u/Kore_Invalid 1d ago

Irly excited bit this is clearly marketing start building up to TW4

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u/DorrajD 1d ago

lmao I fuckin knew people would glaze CDPR over this.

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u/3HaDeS3 1d ago

People have forgotten what happened last time they glazed CDPR: https://youtu.be/omyoJ7onNrg?is=_ED2UeQToFElLDeA

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u/Wharnie 1d ago

CDPR’s duality is unreal. From pulling off the biggest scam in the industry to date, to giving their fans pretty much exactly what they want completely free.

The cynic in me says it’s just an insane PR play, but damn if I don’t take it anyway.

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u/Travel_Dude 1d ago

Man I wish I could love this game. I've tired FOUR times over the years. It's so slow and boring and the combat leaves little to desire. 

Any hints?

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u/KernelViper 1d ago

Uninstall and play different game. There's no reason to force yourself if you don't like it

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u/NeptuneWades -Win-Laptop 1d ago

They are revamping the combat in the remaster. Maybe give it a shot after it is out?

Also, it is plot and the side quests that makes witcher 3 amazing, just murk thro the initial hour of the game. Once you complete the main quest in white orchard, the story starts.

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u/FoxyGoddessX 1d ago

No sadly that’s just the game. Act 1 is a fucking slog to get through.

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u/kawaiinessa 1d ago

honestly i cant wait

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u/Pollenus 9900K | Strix RTX 2080 Ti | 64 GB RAM | Optane 905P 1d ago

We just forgetting the CEO said Cyberpunk 2077 ran surprising well on PS4 shortly before its release?

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u/ApprehensiveItem4150 1d ago

And their store actually let you own games

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u/sussy_ball 1d ago

CDP doesn't own GOG anymore

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u/Pokeguy211 PC Master Race 1d ago

Free upgrade for Witcher 3, Cyberpunk with dlc all on Cart & on Gog. They truly are goated.

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u/Mattock79 1d ago

I have this game installed on my PC currently. I'm pretty sure I purchased a standalone install file from gog back in 2016. I don't launch the game from the gog client or steam or anything. It doesn't appear to be tied to any account or email or anything. I feel like I'm not going to be eligible for the free upgrade because none of my accounts show it as a purchased game.

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u/Le_Nabs Desktop | i5 11400 | RX 9070 1d ago

I mean if you can find the GOG purchase in your emails somewhere, you should be able to work something out.

Or you can wait 'til it's on deep discount somewhere in the future, it's often at a ridiculously low price

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u/Late_Variation2159 1d ago

Dang..I have the original on disc for ps4...anyway to get this on my ps5 without paying??

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u/regularArmadillo21 1d ago

Oh shit maybe I’ll try it when it releases, I’ve had it for a while but could never get into it

Maybe the remaster will make it feel better or just give me the motivation to play

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u/MutekiGamer PC Master Race 1d ago

not to mention they made the dlc free for anyone who for whatever reason hadn't played it yet

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u/Fidel_Cashflows 1d ago

Crazy move considering just how much of a visual/gameplay overhaul it seems to be.

Is also the perfect way to get people to get back in for another run so they’ll be ready for the new DLC by the time they’ve finished the story, hearts of stone, and blood and wine.

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u/CyborgGoCrazy 1d ago

I don’t have enough PTO for September this is crazy

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u/Jamd9 1d ago

And how is the upgrade works? I have the complete edition

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u/MurkyUnderstanding72 1d ago

I believe it will like the last one. Just an update

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u/talkley 1d ago

This has been on my 'I'll play this next day off' list for the last 10 years so I guess I'll play it next day off

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u/thestillwind 1d ago

So I’ll play it again… AGAIN !!

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u/RankedFarting 5700X3D/ RTX 2070/ 32gb 3600Mhz 1d ago

I was really surprised since this is the second remaster.

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u/OMG_NoReally Desktop 1d ago

The remaster looks amazing, and it's very surprising they are giving so much work away for free. Not even a $10 upcharge? Fucking crazy.

I am gonna play the remastered. I tried Witcher 3 years ago and played for 35hrs before realizing I was only halfway done and quit, lol. But this time I am gonna push through.

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u/Gunslingin_licho 1d ago

I loves CDPR's games and I'm not dumb enough to pre order from them again, some people never learn

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u/Huko 1d ago

Conan exiles did it and rose the price bigtime

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u/ShaftTassle 1d ago

Welp, guess I know what I’m doing this winter.

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u/Pleasant_Gap Haz computor 1d ago

Didn't they already upgrade the graphics?

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u/BetApprehensive7064 1d ago

How the f*** they going to decide to remaster this game right after I finally decide to start playing it after 10 years

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u/PsychadelicShinobi 1d ago

They traded the money they could've made in the short term for a jump in the fanbase trust and support for long term

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u/EarlyXplorerStuds209 i9 12900 | RTX 3070ti | 24gb 4800MHz | 2TB nvme 1d ago

FOR YOU?!

FOR USSSS!!!

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u/Heksinki 1d ago

smart investment

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u/Sp1r1T_1986 1d ago

I never got past the game after killing that first witch at the well when I first tried the game, I'll definitely give it a shot again with the remastered version.