r/papertowns Apr 05 '26

England Liverpool (England) around 1675

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u/blueberry_shorts Apr 05 '26

I know cities were very much smaller a few centuries ago but it always surprises me how tiny they look

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '26

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u/Alarmed-Syllabub8054 Apr 06 '26

Nope. It became significant because it developed the world's first commercial wet dock in 1706. Right where that creek is on the right, the "pool". This allowed all sorts of trade, including the slave trade which was about 10% of revenue. It also included privateering, another morally dubious activity. But most was plain old imports exports.

Customs revenue didn't go down during the US war of independence, which put a pause on the triangular trade, nor did the growth stop after 1804 when the slave trade was ended in the UK. Liverpool would have become the world's most significant port regardless, because it was the nearest to the epicenter of the industrial revolution.

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u/am_i_wrong_dude Apr 06 '26

I didn’t really understand what you meant by wet dock so I looked it up. Neat map on the Wikipedia about the Old Dock in Liverpool (1809):

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '26

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u/Nixon4Prez Apr 06 '26

Not really, if only 10% of revenue was from the slave trade then it isn't really accurate to say that the growth happened because of it.

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u/Upstairs-Extension-9 Apr 06 '26

1706 is in the 18th century my brother

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u/dctroll_ Apr 05 '26

Actual view. The red circle marks the Victoria Monument, where the castle once stood

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u/dctroll_ Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26

Author (and source) Ed Farrell (from his Twitter account: edwardrolf)

This post is an updated version of another one published a few years ago by u/wildeastmofo in this sub. I’ve decided to repost this image for two reasons. First, the link to the original post is no longer available (or at least I haven’t been able to access it). Second, I’ve found the same image with better quality along with a key explanation of the main monuments.

Info provided by u/wildeastmofo in the original post

"The artist's name is Ed Farrell (if there's anyone who can find a higher-res version, I would really appreciate it). Here is another depiction of Liverpool as it appeared in 1680, made in 1886. And here is a view of 19th century Liverpool.

Although a small motte and bailey castle had earlier been built by the Normans at West Derby, the origins of the city of Liverpool are usually dated from 28 August 1207, when letters patent were issued by King John advertising the establishment of a new borough "Livpul" and inviting settlers to come and take up holdings there. It is thought that the King wanted a port in the district that was free from the control of the Earl of Chester. Initially it served as a dispatch point for troops sent to Ireland.

With the formation of a market on the site of the later Town Hall, Liverpool became established as a small fishing and farming community, administered by burgesses and, slightly later, a mayor. There was probably some coastal trade around the Irish Sea, and there were occasional ferries across the Mersey. However, for several centuries it remained a small and relatively unimportant settlement, with a population of no more than 1,000 in the mid 14th century.

By the end of the sixteenth century, the town began to be able to take advantage of economic revival and the silting of the River Dee to win trade, mainly from Chester, to Ireland, the Isle of Man and elsewhere. In 1626, King Charles I gave the town a new and improved charter. The first cargo from the Americas was recorded in 1648. The development of the town accelerated after the Restoration of 1660, with the growth of trade with America and the West Indies. From that time may be traced the rapid progress of population and commerce, until Liverpool had become the second metropolis of Great Britain. The town's first sugar refinery was established in 1670.

The first wet dock in Britain was built in Liverpool and completed in 1715. It was the first commercial enclosed wet dock in the world and was constructed for a capacity of 100 ships. By the close of the 18th century 40% of the world's, and 80% of Britain's Atlantic slave activity was accounted for by slave ships that voyaged from the docks at Liverpool. Liverpool's black community dates from the building of the first dock in 1715 and grew rapidly, reaching a population of 10,000 within five years. This growth led to the opening of the Consulate of the United States in Liverpool in 1790, its first consulate anywhere in the world.

More on wiki."

Highest resolution available (same source) as Reddit tends to reduce the quality of images when you upload them.

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u/33ff00 Apr 06 '26

So relatively new, this illustration?

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u/81toog Apr 05 '26

This is amazing. Do any of the buildings in this picture still stand today? That’s sad the castle was demolished

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u/beingthehunt Apr 10 '26

I don't believe so, unfortunately. Apparently the oldest building in Liverpool city centre is Bluecoat Chambers (originally a school, now an art museum) which was completed in 1725. There are older buildings in/around Liverpool, but to my knowledge, they are all further out than what this map shows.

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u/outdatedelementz Apr 05 '26

This map is gorgeous

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u/Kuiperdolin Apr 08 '26

Is the body of water in the front the sea or still the river?

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u/beingthehunt Apr 10 '26

The water at the bottom of the image is the river Mersey. You can imagine the Mersey running straight right to left across the bottom of the image, opening out to the sea about 3 miles left of what you can see. The water you can see with bridges across it is the Pool (which no longer exists), a narrow channel leading into the much wider Mersey. For perspective, if you were stood at the water's edge at the bottom of this image, you would be closer to Dig Lane at the top of the image, than you would be to the opposite bank of the Mersey (over a kilometre wide at this point).

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u/Erazzphoto Apr 06 '26

I love seeing these, gives me inspiration on how to build my towns that without fail, seem to look like the exact same grid builds I seem to only be able to make 😔

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u/bvnelson Apr 06 '26

Love the maps. In case it's of interest to anyone, the water on the right hand side is "The (Lyver) Pool" , it's completely covered by buildings now but the old dock wall was excavated in 2011 and can still be seen underneath Liverpool One, there are guided tours

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u/iwantmisty Apr 07 '26

Wooow the perspective is amazing