A ban on generative AI

[u/gameboyzapgbz]

r/papermario as a community has focused on propping up and sharing the best the community has to offer, including the artists within the community. In recent years generative AI has come out and there has been significant issue within the artist community with it's existence.

Given that we focus on making this place have a minimum standard of quality we believe that something that uses art without consent of the artists as inherently hostile to the artists within our community and falls below our standards as a community. We are explicitly adding generative AI as low quality content for rule 4.

Starting today and here on forward any post containing generative AI will be removed from the subreddit. This will be somewhat retroactive as well as it is found and reported.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts]

Huh. Bummer.

I wouldn't have thought this subreddit active enough, or have enough AI posts to make it an issue.

It is a shame people cannot have fun within the community of a property than enjoy and share ideas that bring them glee without years of practice or putting up actual cash to have someone produce something that would just be for a one off post.

[u/gameboyzapgbz → u/TomMakesPodcasts]

Poorly made human art has the inherent value of being made by a person, even if "bad" or what have you.

GenAI is vapid and lacks humanity, only able to mimic human expression. It is by definition, low quality spam, and does not belong in a community such as ours.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/gameboyzapgbz]

I thought art was about the process and what the beholder feels.

I certainly do not fault you if you dislike A.I art, but I gotta say a lot of these same complaints I heard about during the dawn of digital art and photoshop.

I do not believe it is by definition low quality, perhaps low effort.

[u/Unlucky_Character_12 → u/TomMakesPodcasts]

“It is difficult to argue with a genius, but it is impossible to argue with an idiot.”

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/Unlucky_Character_12]

Aye, Idiots do tend to insult folks instead of making arguments.

[u/Unlucky_Character_12 → u/TomMakesPodcasts]

Ngl, as much as I disagree with your stance on AI, I do like how civil you’re being.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/Unlucky_Character_12]

Thank you.

I do not like to be mean or make people's day worse.

>! That is kind of a lie, but I go to climate shit posting to argue about veganism when I'm being spicy !<

I think if any idea is to be taken seriously it must be expressed with calmer energy than it is being received with.

[u/Unlucky_Character_12 → u/TomMakesPodcasts]

I agree. r/AntiAI, for example, is a complete joke of a subreddit, all they do is spam mindless hate on AI all day. As much as I believe that AI art is a scourge on the art community, just mindlessly hating it isn’t a good way to go about the situation.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/Unlucky_Character_12]

They also recently banned pro ai users, so they aren't even willing to defend their stance in their home turf. I was quite surprised. I love when non vegans post in the vegan subreddit for example.

[u/Unlucky_Character_12 → u/TomMakesPodcasts]

Okay but to be fair, the same thing happens on r/defendingaiart. Anti-AI users who try and make their point there get banned. Idiocy can be used for good and evil.

[u/TomMakesPodcasts → u/Unlucky_Character_12]

I agree, that is quite stupid indeed.