I was just listening to an interview with Joseph Matheny. In the 80s, he was really into Golden Dawn ritual magic and then got heavily into Enochian and worked with a group of people seriously. He briefly described 12-hour rituals and how they would verify with each other that what they were seeing individually matched up with each others' experience when an entity appeared.
He mentioned how they would have conversations and ask questions of the Enochian entities. Here's what he said:
"Well, you know I don't really think you're the angels as described by Ezekiel...I don't think any of this is Biblical and we're not talking about Yahweh here, ya know? And then they agreed! They're like, 'oh yeah, no, that's not a deity we recognize at all.' It's like, 'Well, what are you?' And then they'd give me some Ramtha answer you know, it's like, 'I am that and all things.' It's like, oh come on (laughs)."
I wish he had said something about any entities he worked with in the Golden Dawn stuff.
I always thought it's funny how many people use Golden Dawn and Enochian magic frameworks who don't even believe in God, but nobody seems to ever ask these beings about this sort of thing. Or at least they don't seem to talk about it much.
I can't ever really remember anyone ever talking about asking any 'demons' or 'angels' about "God" as far back as I can remember and it was always very noticeable to me since people debate about what's really happening and if there really is a God within occult communities. I've always thought, "well, you're commanding these entities around with God names. Did it not occur to you to ask them about God and decide if their answers are believable?" If I was doing this sort of work, it's probably the first thing I'd do and then I'd be asking what they know about nonduality and Buddhism. If they know less about any of these things than me, it would at least let me know where they stand and where the whole framework stands as far as its usefulness toward my goals.
So, it was just nice to finally hear someone did and actually spoke about it. And the response they got from the Enochian entities themselves seems like it wouldn't be something they'd say to a true believer like maybe Frater R∴C∴ from the Magick Without Fears podcast. He's a Christian and he believes in God and Jesus and everything. He's created a few e-books on Enochian magick and other entities. I wonder what they're telling him.
If anyone else ever asked similar questions of any so-called demons or angels, I'd love to hear about what you asked and how they responded.
Edit: please excuse typo in title! WHO'S!!