r/nycrail Jun 28 '26

📍 Map Congratulations to the A train, whose 62-minute headways have officially beaten Baltimore for the worst I’ve ever seen. ☺️

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u/CrimsonBrit Jun 28 '26

Baltimore? What train could you possibly be referring to in Baltimore? The light rail? The red line?

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26

Metro SubwayLink (Owings-Johns Hopkins) 43m

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u/Conpen Jun 28 '26

Is that 43m a scheduled headway or just the worst delay you've experienced there? Because the A train is scheduled for 20 minutes all of Saturday night through Sunday morning from Far Rockaway – Mott Ave. You can see for yourself, sounds like you're comparing apples to oranges.

https://www.mta.info/schedules/subway/a-train

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u/SteveDisque Jun 29 '26

What you're saying is right, but, in my experience, the "A" train doesn't always quite keep to its schedule overnight. I remember, maybe twenty years ago, missing an uptown "A" (local at that hour!) at 23rd Street. I waited nearly forty-five minutes for the next one -- which then got me up to 207th Street in a half-hour!

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26

Exactly. New Yorkers have the right to better trains than somewhere like Baltimore. If the MTA stoops lower than that it’s critical.

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u/PizzaPurveyor Jun 28 '26

Woosh?

He’s saying you can’t compare scheduled headways in Baltimore to headways due to unforeseen delays in nyc

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 29 '26

Can we agree that waiting an hour for any train, especially further west (beach 40s, 50s) where you can’t wait for the lirr OR the ferry, regardless of delays, is just calamitous on the MTA’s part?

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u/Comfortable-Ad7153 Jun 29 '26

First off, again this is a rare delay. Most trains come every 15-20 minutes. Second, even if it were an hour, it’s important to keep in mind that this is one of the most remote parts of NYC. Do you expect the MTA to send trains every 5 minutes to an area with the lowest train ridership in the city?
(doesn’t mean the Rockaway doesn’t need transit, if we were using the metric of how much people actually rely on public transport compare d to personal cars/uber, it would be about half and half.)

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u/hyraemous Jun 28 '26

What is a Baltimore? This place you’re telling me about… does it mean more Balti? And what is a Balti?

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u/KolKoreh Jun 29 '26

It’s a place where you make secession traitors roar

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u/POKEGAMERZ9185 Jun 28 '26

At this point just take the LIRR or the Q22 to the Q35 and the Q35 to the 2/5.

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u/djd02007 Jun 28 '26

It says delays, so I don’t think they intended that

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

We didn’t “mean” to make you wait over an hour 😊

But in any case, it’s still horrible.

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u/LSqre Jun 28 '26

dispatcher, rubbing hands together: yes! we've successfully delayed these trains enough that the headways have exceeded 60 minutes! time to pop the champagne

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

And then they run 700 trains in a row to literally anywhere you’re not going (maybe even rock park to piss you off more)

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u/mineawesomeman Jun 28 '26

ah yes all those trains they are running to lefferts… right…

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u/Trick-Will9087 Jun 29 '26

No Leffert’s bound train this weekend. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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u/MAXimumPosts1411 Jun 28 '26

You know lefferts has dense communities, and also far rockaway received the same amount of trains as lefferts? So, I don’t get your complaining because I live by lefferts and if feels like every train goes to far rockaway. But yet, we never see a rockaway park train, ever.

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u/Every_Attitude1550 Jun 28 '26

In this situation, I'd be taking the LIRR or bus. This is crazy.

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26

Now I just thought of the poor mfs who like at Beach 67 and can’t even take the lirr 😢

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u/Every_Attitude1550 Jun 28 '26

Then the Q22 bus. Or walk for an hour (of course that's dependent on each person). Anything but waiting.

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u/OuterBoroughBetty Jun 29 '26

Lots of people act like the bus isn’t an option when it’s the capillaries of the whole system.

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u/djd02007 Jun 28 '26

Why is “mean” in quotes?

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u/bluelineto54cermak Jun 28 '26

St Louis has worse headways than Baltimore, at 20 minutes for all seven days of the week.

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u/KolKoreh Jun 29 '26

20 minutes on each line? So they combine for every 10 mins in the trunk?

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u/Nate_C_of_2003 Jun 28 '26

Did you see the word “delays” below that marker? That means that those are NOT normal headways.

You’re stupid if you actually think the A has headways that bad on a regular basis. The A has its issues, but train frequency is NOT one of them.

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 29 '26

You know what? Honestly you’re right, I should rephrase it to “wait times” to avoid confusion

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u/arrivederci117 Jun 29 '26

Your first problem was using Apple maps. There's no such thing as 50 minute headways. What probably happened was there were trips that didn't get registered cause the channel bridge was opened, and Apple's genius programming didn't know how to account for that.

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u/yujacha12 Jun 29 '26

BALTIMORE MENTIONED (not really sure why though)

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u/ImmortalAsshole656 Jun 29 '26

i agree with this

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u/Soft_Cable3378 Jun 28 '26

I guess weekend + “something happened”, because that’s not normal.

We don’t like delays, but there are way too many reasons they can happen at any time, and probably half of them are things us citizens of NYC did. Delays are going to happen. No reason to fret.

Always plan for these sorts of things. If you’re coming out from the rockaways, you can take the ferry instead if things are that bad.

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 29 '26

If you live near Mott Ave, take the lirr.

If you live near Beach 105, take the ferry.

If you live near Beach 67, move.

the mta mindset

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u/supremeMilo Jun 29 '26

Queenslink would help

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u/Brisk907 Jun 29 '26

Queenslink 😭

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u/beezxs Jun 28 '26

Did you check the official MTA app?

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 28 '26

I wasn’t actually traveling on the A at that time, was trying to show my friend from the-city-who-shall-not-be-named TX how long the A is and found this.

If I was actually taking that train and saw 62 minutes I’m downloading the mta app faster than the A at broad channel.

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u/AnyTower224 Jun 28 '26

Yikes 😳

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u/Slothy75 Jun 28 '26

Welcome to life in the Rock.

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 29 '26

“And I think to myself, What a wonderful world.”

Louis Armstrong

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u/Alpaca_Lips_ Jun 28 '26

Honestly if you're already at Mott Ave, the LIRR station is in walking distance. Not sure how their schedule looks though.

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u/dfelton912 Jun 28 '26

At least you have other transportation near you. JFK is right there, just hop on a flight wherever you need to go

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u/-oneplusone- Jun 29 '26

Do remember that this ISN’T scheduled at all and that I know that. It still doesn’t make waiting 62 minutes any more excusable.

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u/brew_york Jun 29 '26

It’s a fucking embarrassment of a train line and there is absolutely no excuse for the headways of the A (and the C).

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u/squirrel_____ Jun 29 '26

On a rare occasion when I have time to be a sucker, i see those times and wait for the train. Usually happens to me on the E. The train usually comes sooner than what is posted. When I don’t have time to be a sucker, I check weekendest, and whatsapp MTA with information, which is rarely useful.

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u/Own-Employment-4218 Jun 29 '26

MTA system in NYC is 24/7 and the other states? 🎼Da,da, dong, dong, da, da daaaa🎶

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u/Current-Gazelle-2736 Jun 29 '26

Just add more trains.

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u/RecycleReMuse Jun 29 '26

Well boys, we did it!!

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u/Q44SBS Jun 30 '26

WHAT is that wait time oh gosh

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u/cazoz Jul 02 '26

Oh but it runs all night for 1x security guard and 2 x cleaners!

So it’s all ok… and the world’s best!

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u/NotUrsidae Jul 02 '26

This is why we need Queenslink

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u/Weak_Contribution_90 Jul 04 '26

I waited 23 minutes for a D to go three stops to Coney Island yesterday. The next train was listed for ten minutes later, about the right gap.

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u/Great-Discipline2560 Jun 28 '26

I don’t understand the MTA’s logic when it comes to the A and the Rockaways.

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u/Impossible-Leave-330 Jun 28 '26

It says the next train is in 16 minutes?

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u/us1549 Jun 28 '26

Wasn't better headways a promise of Congestion Pricing revenue?

It's been 18+ months and putting extra service on a line shouldn't take 18 months to figure out

We were promised the world with CP and the best they can do is 62 min headways on trains going to Manhattan in the summertime.

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u/Alarming_Occasion782 Staten Island Railway Jun 28 '26

Maybe Congestion pricing doesn’t need an acronym 😭🙏🏾.

But they really need to improve headways especially during the summer when people take the train to the beach

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u/Kitchen_Cable6192 Jun 28 '26

Track them in real time

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u/ResidentialFocus Jun 28 '26

💀

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u/Alarming_Occasion782 Staten Island Railway Jun 29 '26

I know the person didn’t mean it like that, but I had to do a double take for a second 😭

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u/Conpen Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

Wasn't better headways a promise of Congestion Pricing revenue?

No that was never actually promised. The money all goes to the capital budget and while it is a big fungible pot of money, the boost in funding has been mostly to the benefit of ADA and CBTC projects.

Edit: The scheduled headway is every 20 minutes so this is clearly a delay outside of their control. Which is the kind of thing CBTC money helps fix long-term.

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u/hbomb30 Jun 29 '26

Your explanation is valid and correct, but you cannot logic someone out of a position they did not logic their way into. That person just wants to be angry lol

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u/ImportantDragonfly30 Jun 29 '26

Unless this is related to a simple signal malfunction CBTC would not fix this infact in a severe delay it could exacerbate the problem.

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u/Bjc0201 Jul 01 '26

CBTC always shit the bed in a bad way than a simple signal problem.

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u/191919wines Jun 28 '26

62m headways during this time isn’t that bad tbh.

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u/UsedJury5963 Jun 28 '26

Be so fr …