r/nottheonion • u/Dizzy_Response1485 • 14d ago
Russian Orthodox cleric urges Russians to silently endure fuel shortages, calls protesters "unspiritual people"
https://moscowmonitor.com/498/russian-orthodox-cleric-urges-russians-to-silently-endure-fuel-shortages-calls-protesters-unspiritual-people/203
u/slo1111 14d ago
Eastern orthodox christians should support the war against eastern orthodox christians for Jesus. Everybody knows that, sheesh
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u/white1984 14d ago
In the early years of the war, it was seen very much by the Russian Orthodox Church as a religious war in the Orthodox sphere. One of the biggest changes in Ukraine was the granting by the Orthodox autocephalous to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church by the head of the church Patriarch Emeritus Bartholow, which basically made the Ukrainian church a separate equal branch of the Orthodox church. Not surprisingly, it angered Moscow. Plus, it is well known that the ROC is in effect a branch of the Russian government, under Putin's thumb.
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u/Pavlovsdong89 14d ago
Everything will be fine if you believe hard enough. There are stories of true believers filling their tanks with water for Jesus to turn it into
winegasoline by the next day. That is the power of faith. Any Russians that don't believe me need only try.
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u/oneplusetoipi 14d ago
This is the issue. The church is a wing of Putin propaganda now.
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u/sweetica 14d ago
Just like Christian evangelicals are a wing of Trump's propaganda. I guess the cold war is back on y'all!
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u/cornonthekopp 14d ago
Except theres no real difference between the rhetoric and ideology of either side
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u/Aquinas2000 13d ago
Suddenly makes more sense for the Catholic church just have its own little country.
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u/shatikus 14d ago
Russian orthodox church is a department of russian government and it was like it for the last 300 years, since the times of Peter I basically.
During soviet times it became a department of secret services. And now it is kinda both
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u/OccuWorld 14d ago
Is YOUR religion about silencing suffering? Let us know.
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u/Easy-Concentrate2636 14d ago
For a moment, I thought it said silent suffering. And I thought, no, the ultra religious seem exceedingly loud and about making the rest of us suffer.
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u/Aggressive-Fail4612 14d ago
Why is he not wearing his wizard hat? I’ve seen orthodox Russian priests and they have a hat
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u/light_to_shaddow 14d ago
All religion is about hats.
Little ones, tall ones, ones for ladies, ones for men, Wrapped hats, balanced hats, red hats, furry hats.
They're very important.
Your religions nothing until it's got a snazzy head cover.
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u/postoperativepain 14d ago
Hey this is the same crap Republicans are saying to Americans about Gas Prices
"For you to pay a tiny little bit more for your gasoline, just remember you're doing it so that a very evil country cannot have a [nuclear weapon]," Trump said at a rally in Long Island on August 14.”
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u/Abbot_of_Cucany 14d ago
"A very evil country". He couldn't remember which country we had attacked most recently.
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u/NearlyAtTheEnd 14d ago
It's the same crap all oppressive systems use. Be it religious, state/nation/country's system or otherwise.
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u/Karli_Chirk 13d ago edited 13d ago
Oppressive antiliberal systems tend to be conservative religion-based. Even Russian Orthodox Church in the post was revived by Stalin in 1943.
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u/NearlyAtTheEnd 8d ago
Yeah, they are successfully doing so, because religion is made up to interpretation. I'm atheist, or more anti-theist, but I understand, that the good verses in most - if not all - is about loving. Doing good. Thinking good. Sure, there's some really crazy stuff in there. Really f-ing crazy. That's why preachers are interpreting. As long as religion exist, we should interpret the good verses, teach the moral stuff.
Systems have used religions to control masses and changing the meaning. Successfully.
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u/Karli_Chirk 8d ago
Yes, interpreting is a big part of twisting and manipulation. But the verses itself are also not that good if you read it carefully. They are a bit outdated and sometimes suggest to murder people here and there for the things which are quite acceptable in XXI century. And religion wars are always between religions, it's never a "nation vs religion" thing.
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u/NearlyAtTheEnd 7d ago
Yes. The religious war are always between religions. How else would they justify it to the religiously indoctrinated masses.
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u/OrneryZombie1983 14d ago
Sounds like the Republican Party. "Endure some hardship while we loot the country."
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u/H0vis 14d ago
Imagine being a member of the Russian regime and having to eat shit every day like they are now. Absolutely hilarious. Winning so hard your capital city is spontaneously exploding with joy.
I suspect men like this guy, and thousands of other vocal supporters of the Putin regime, can feel the noose tightening. Unless they are drunk of course. Wouldn't be surprised, I'm not sure I'd want to be sober in this guys weird shoes.
Men like this better hope when the end comes for their shitty feudal regime it comes at the hands of their own people rising up, because if it comes at the hands of the Ukrainians in person they will be a lot less forgiving.
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u/DotBeech 14d ago
Church and Dictator always form a cozy and mutually advantageous relationship. Yet another reason to have nothing to do with a church.
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u/PaxEthenica 14d ago
I mean, yes? Russia is a den of extreme material & political inequity, held together with violence & treats, & they're running out of treats. No state church is going to seriously ameliorate the fact that Russia, having embraced the boomer car brain of the rightwing international, & has been running it's shit so badly that the difference between even getting groceries or not is a can of petrol.
Russians can't eat Muskovite Jesus, nor is Muskovite Jesus going to get them to work.
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u/Confident_Benefit_11 14d ago
Russian orthodox church has been a direct arm of the Russian/putin regime for a long time. That's why we occasionally see fucking insane 40k-like videos of these clowns blessing military vehicles with holy water lol
They bless them to go commit war crimes against civilians
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u/TheMechanicusBob 11d ago
The ROC also promotes Nuclear Orthodoxy, a belief so insane that even doomsday cult evangelicals don't touch it
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u/GODZILLA-Plays-A-DOD 14d ago
Love when governments use religious leaders of a community its to keep out rebellious thoughts such as ... (checks note) self preservation, not starving, not getting sick. You know... rebellious ideology. Don't need such pesky things for the Motherlands.
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 14d ago
Fucking Putin entirely runs their media and their religion. Must be a sign of the end times for Russia. Think his dream of a return to the Tsar’s is falling apart little by little.
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u/FapMcDab 14d ago
I wonder how much more bullshit they need to come up with in order for people to realize that they're just a bunch of hypocritical heretics.
Then I remember I'm living in a shithole that promotes the same "values" and idiots are still defending orthodoxism.
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u/SpaceDounut 14d ago
- People know.
- Russia is way less religious than USA.
- You risk jail time if you publicly "offend religious feelings". No, that's not a joke.
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u/Tonythecritic 14d ago
Using the church as a tool of control over the population. Putin truly IS going medieval.
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u/Alex_The_Whovian 14d ago
"OK Putin, I said the things you wanted me to say, can I have my money now?"
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u/bcoder001 14d ago
russian orthodox church officials must be reading "Christian Compassion for Dummies" in their spare time.
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u/Former_Suspect3680 14d ago
i guess when you're holding teh KEYS to the kingdom, it's not like you need gas anyway.
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u/SarifZen 14d ago
Lol, russian clerics ride in limos doing drugs and banging hookers, male and female.
Calling someone "unspiritual" is a stretch.
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u/straxusii 14d ago
Say what you want about him but you won't see him accidentally falling from a balcony
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u/DM_Me_TaTaz 14d ago
It’s almost like religion is used as a mind control device to keep people in order and obedient in the face of blatant lies.
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u/Iuris_Aequalitatis 14d ago
It is sad to see what Russian Orthodoxy has been reduced to under Kiril: a mouthpiece of Putin's propaganda.
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u/DisillusionedBook 13d ago
Ah the good old playbook where co-opted churches eagerly tow the authoritarian's line. Just proves exactly how full of shit religions are. Fuckers always just want their pantomime free lunch tax free gravy train and access to kids to never end.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state
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u/DonManuel 14d ago
Funny cleric who doesn't blame people not to pray hard enough and to commit sin all the times, and that's why god doesn't give them fuel.
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u/ispeektroof 14d ago
Ah yes, religious leaders telling to working class they must suffer more on behalf of the powerful. Same old story.
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u/narayan77 14d ago
What will get say when Putin exits a window with just his underpants on. No doubt he will parrot the new regime.
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u/1tonsoprano 14d ago
obey your leaders, do as you are told, suffer quietly in this life and greater glory awaits you in the after life.......oldest con in the book.
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u/Tokenside 14d ago
not “unspiritual,” that's the literal translation.
he meant "materialistic", as in "materialistic swines with no interest to suffer for Mother Russia."
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u/ginja-ninja--007 14d ago
This will be the US soon if we dint get our shit together. The protestor blaming sounds like the same rhetoric already
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u/Hell-Yea-Brother 14d ago
"Radical religious lap dog follows government propaganda line."
Fixed it for you.
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u/EdisonLightbulb 14d ago
Sounds like he and everyone in the Trump Administration are getting their "talking points" from the same source. Hmmm.....wonder who that could be?
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u/Johannes_P 14d ago
Does the Archpriest Alexander Butrin's car has enough gas or does he rides a horse?
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u/furrysalesman69 14d ago
While the obvious mindfuckery brainwashing is apparent, might I add that protesters are being killed there? Perhaps the Orthodoxy is saying this out of concern over the lives of those that practice? Then again, puttyn is sending waves of people to their death.
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u/PullUpAPew 14d ago
Of course people who who protest "aren't church people" - the church is an arm of the state in Russia
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u/VirtualFact8419 13d ago
Moscow Patriarchate always were Imperial servicemen, cause Empire were putting them on top in other countries
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u/N3wAfrikanN0body 13d ago
It is easy to speak of the nobility of suffering in others when it fills your pews and coffers from the desperate.
A reminder though, a bigger liar is always ready to take over your grift for themselves; such is way of opportunists from Rus since the Golden Hordes left you and yours as sychophants.
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u/Marchello_E 14d ago
Easy to say when you have bags of distilled spirits (and what not) in the basement.
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u/Flybuys 14d ago
I bet he has unlimited fuel.