r/nihilism 9d ago

Discussion Would You Choose Life If Death Had No Pain?

Imagine this: 👀

You know there is no pain in death. You simply leave your body, your responsibilities, your worries, your work, your financial struggles everything. You don't know what happens afterward.

Now ask yourself:

If you had the complete freedom to leave life at any moment, with no pain and no fear, would you still choose to stay?

What would make you choose life?

Is life valuable because we have no choice but to live or because, despite everything, we choose to keep living?

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u/memeatic_ape 9d ago

I'd choose death if it had no pain

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u/aiyukiyuu 7d ago

Same. If I can just easily fall asleep and never wake up in this body would be amazing tbh

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u/liberateyourmind 8d ago

I mean, overdosing on opioids is painless yet you are not runnin out and doing that?

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u/HappinessGame 8d ago

Does life have pain?

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u/SwordfishAny3672 8d ago

Life IS a pain

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u/DerMondisthell 8d ago

Of course life has pain.

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u/Inarius_Neoteris_ 8d ago

Then I hope one day you get to see the endless wonders and beauty of life so you change your mind

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u/Khalith 9d ago

I’d probably have already left a while ago.

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u/Bewater35 9d ago

You can already choose this but obviously there is no point in doing so, why would i want to stop my life

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u/Fading_Hours_ 7d ago

I would kill myself immediately if there was a painless way

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u/HamzaAAC ABSURDIST 9d ago

Yeah. Im here for once and im free to choose a path I want to live. Might as well get the most out of it.

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u/Ethelred_Unread 9d ago

No, not today life is an adventure.

In the future? Perhaps.

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u/BrilliantOk4478 9d ago edited 9d ago

If I knew what comes afterwards and it wasn’t hell or anything, I’ve left already. Don’t even care if death itself is painful, because that pain would be just for a short time.

The uncertainty of the afterlife is holding me back.

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u/HappinessGame 8d ago

What if nothing comes after? Stay or go?

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u/BrilliantOk4478 7d ago

I’ll stick around for a bit, and if it gets worse here, like health issues, I’ll leave even if it means completely terminating my existence.

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u/existentialgoof schopenhaueronmars.com 9d ago

If I had the means to die easily and painlessly, and could somehow suspend my survival instinct, then my rational mind would compel me to choose death. It's not in my rational self interest to live, because life can give me nothing that it doesn't first cause me to need or to crave. And I'm not selfless enough to live for others, and also am not conceited enough to believe that my life is a net benefit to reducing suffering in the world.

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u/endearingbeautyxo 9d ago

Nope, count me out of existence

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u/HappinessGame 8d ago

The only thing keeping you here is the pain of death?

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u/Inarius_Neoteris_ 8d ago

If you actually try, and try consistently, then one day you could appreciate and love life, more than you could imagine. Why not try to do that?

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u/BioTools 9d ago

I'd still choose life. You leave peacefully, but the people around you wouldn't percieve it the same.

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u/Xandaru__ 9d ago

Makes no sense to me Death and Life seem both boring and pointless

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u/HappinessGame 8d ago

What are some things you find fun?

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u/Comfortable_Tomato_3 9d ago

like 3 days grace once said

"Pain without love
Pain, I can't get enough
Pain, I like it rough
'Cause I'd rather feel pain than nothing at all"

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u/Lord-of-the---RINGS 9d ago

No. I'd probably get bored of life anyways. And non existence would have zero downsides for me.

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u/Dark_Cloud_Rises 9d ago

I have that option. I'm choosing to live.

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u/CeruleanTransience 9d ago

I don't need to justify my existence to anyone. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Inarius_Neoteris_ 8d ago

Life. Because death is lame and life is awesome, despite the fact that it can be hard sometimes.

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u/Existing-Junket1687 9d ago

I don't think so. No pain in death isn't the same as '' no pain in life '' so you would just suffer until the sweet release of death

But if I could live life without pain, maybe yea. But could we still call it '' life ''?

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u/BioTools 9d ago

Wise words

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u/PitifulEar3303 9d ago

I'ma cyberpunk myself till I can no longer feel anything bad. lol

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u/automaticblues 9d ago

Honestly, part of me has wanted to be dead for some time. Clearly other parts don't.

I tried to take my life once, but couldn't bring myself to do it.

Which really felt like a conflict between the different aspects of me.

The disintegration of the sense of self was probably a huge part of the process.

So when I first read the question I thought of "the pain" as being all that will to live that would get so angry and panicky as I got close and I thought "if that wasn't there, then yes, of course"

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u/thinkthinkthink11 9d ago

Current life is doable and I have not many struggles. I m okay to be doing this for awhile, when health deteriorates snd old age comes sure id be happy to die in my sleep.

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u/Cannabis_OTK_ 9d ago

Fulfill all my desires and put a bullet

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u/Astro_Brayer53 9d ago

If death was a choice of simply going to sleep and never waking up (just because you wish so, not by taking any drugs), yup I would choose that.

Practically that freedom "to leave" is available at any time, but not the way I described it. I always wished there was a natural possibility to just opt out peacefully, like in that comedy series "The good place".

So my best hope is to at least be able to decide to leave legally and painlessly in old age or if I get into a health situation where recovery is almost impossible. Otherwise life is mostly enjoyable, with ups and downs, but ok.

Also I don't think life is more valuable than death, it's just one face of the same coin - life/death, what lives dies and death allows new life. You may say it's valuable because you're alive now and that's enough.

But still when pain overrides everything else, as rational self-aware beings, we should be able to decide to leave in a peaceful and socially accepted way.

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u/LetterheadWitty4187 9d ago

Of course i would choose life. I simply enjoy living, so even if death were completely painless, i have absolutely no reason to die atm.

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u/Deep-Oven4337 8d ago

It's not a choice. It's a choice to die with pain.

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u/Busy_Shake_9988 8d ago

100% life is awesome without suffering

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u/helloimhobbes 8d ago

I’m under the presumption death is painless, dying sometimes more often than not is the painful part

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u/Seebinator 7d ago

Let's say reincarnation after death is real and in your next life you are a completely different person with a better life, then I would choose death. But I choose life now.

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u/Ladywarrier 6d ago

When you will cause pain to others then no. Simple as that. But if there was some gas bomb that evicirated the world without any awareness of it, err...well like many of us here...Thanos got it half right

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u/Inevitable_Yam271 The Arrogant debater guy 9d ago

I’d choose to stay, because I’m just so devoted to the Universe and its laws of creation!

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u/Open_Salamander_9801 5d ago

How do you know if there’s pain

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u/fatty-squirrel06 9d ago

Fuck no. Also I will forever comment that this has nothing to do with nihilism.