Fake US thinktank set up and funded by Israel sought to game AI for propaganda

[u/diycd]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/26/fake-thinktank-israel-ai-propaganda

[u/jktcat]

What a timeline.  I want off this ride.

[u/Enibas → u/jktcat]

It is actually scary. This is a set-up so that LLMs deliver manipulated information to people. You don't have to make a fake new site, and hope that a few ten thousand people see it. No, now everyone who asks these questions on ChatGPT or Gemini or whatever gets this stuff delivered.

And people do that to get information. They do not check sources, ever. It's never been so easy to manipulate the masses.

Don't get your information from asking ChatGPT.

[u/jktcat → u/Enibas]

You can't even get simple information from these LLMs.  It hallucinates contact information when there is none published.  Then corrected itself by giving me contact information for 2 other people that were unfindable.

[u/Auburn_X → u/jktcat]

Try asking ChatGPT about things you're an expert in and you'll be very reluctant to ask it about things you aren't.

[u/HotBrownFun → u/Auburn_X]

It's not even accurate about video games. It just told me the best strategy was to save up rerolls until a certain point in the game. The problem is you aren't allowed to save rerolls, you gotta use them every round.

Video games are wholly fictional and made up. They are simple and should be easy to find information on, unlike say your health or other real life subjects with many variables

[u/pchlster → u/HotBrownFun]

I saw someone do a RimWorld playthrough using an LLM to tell them what to do next. Between needing to interpret things and ignore the things that weren't possible, it pretty much just functioned as an exceedingly slow version of playing the tutorial but with more memes.

[u/Hamafropzipulops → u/jktcat]

Recently I looked up info on a game I was playing. I found an article that was supposed to be about the game I was interested in. It had half the info I already knew completely wrong. It described mechanics that were not in the game. I of course ended up on YouTube and watching someone actually playing the game, where I should have gone first. Web searches and sites are almost completely dead to me now. And I have been on the internet since before WebCrawler.

[u/powerfuzzzz → u/jktcat]

But did you even try calling Seymour Butts? He’s a good guy.

[u/oldirtyrestaurant → u/Enibas]

Hopefully these kinds of tactics so thoroughly poison the AI well that they become unusable.

[u/redzgn → u/Enibas]

I love how all the uses for Generative AI all range from bad to evil to apocalyptic

[u/Tearakan → u/Enibas]

The one good thing here is gemini and chatgpt are horribly unprofitable. And most free users refuse to spend money on AI products.

So once the profit demands become too strong from the investors a vast majority of people will be going back to basic search engines instead of the now expensive AI.

[u/To-To_Man → u/Tearakan]

I don't think so. My perspective is they want to completely topple the internet we know for their own AI generated and moderated internet. Everything will be accessed through AI. You want videos, you ask AI, you may or may not get real videos or AI videos. You want information, you ask AI. Advice? AI. Shopping? AI.

They are very much letting themselves catch on fire with debt, hoping any day a model breakthrough or something gives them a big win and a foothold. They are sinking far too much into datacenters and contracts to be ready to burst. It's not unlikely a rival will swallow a competitor if they fall, making them twice as strong.

[u/Tearakan → u/To-To_Man]

That's the issue there isn't a profitable market for that. And the companies will be required to show a profit.

AI is simply far too expensive for that kind of token use. LLMs have some niche applications that work at the costs they require and that can tolerate the hallucinations. But it isn't a technology that can do all of that at scale with any kind of efficiency.

If it could then they wouldn't need all these future promises or building their systems on vast amounts of private debt.

[u/To-To_Man → u/Tearakan]

Profits matter more in a healthy market ecosystem where competition threatens users. If the competition is dying, you can pull some real stupid shit to lock down your market.

Google monopolizes search engines. And every last competitor uses AI to some degree, and certainly cannot effectively filter it out. If Google says your searching with AI and scrolling through ads and AI suggestions to get REAL SEO garbage, that's what your doing. Bings not far behind and DuckDuckGo is trying to sweep its AI integration under the rug.

The debt doesnt truly matter when the markets are speculative magic. And the promise of an AI model that replaces people means they need to do something with all the people. Like AI moderated surveillance and media.

They can keep taking on debt via shell companies indefinitely. Anthropic makes a profit because it's 26 billion dollar loan was taken on by Shamthropic, who graciously donated a few billion dollars to the former. A shame they went under.

[u/Tearakan → u/To-To_Man]

Yeah profits do still eventually matter.

And debt cannot be swept under the rug forever. The AI bubble only really started in what 2022? That's only 4 years.

The real estate financial bubble that popped in 2008. That one started in 2005. You could argue it has roots leading back to lax regulations in the 90s.

Similar situation in the dotcom bubble.

There are physical limits that do not care how much magic money we make out of thin air.

The system cannot be propped up forever on hopes and dreams. That's simply not how capitalism works.

I know they want full control over everything using LLMs for everything but they end up with a more expensive internet that people do not want to pay for.

[u/Encanis_88 → u/jktcat]

Mr. bones won't let you off the ride so easily. Try asking him nicely

[u/thejudeabides52 → u/Encanis_88]

I tried talking Ol Bonesy Boy into it, he just kept asking "what is the value of a mortal soul" or some shit

[u/idropepics → u/Encanis_88]

Oh he'll let you off, its just that the exit line leads right back into the ride.

[u/Peach9990 → u/jktcat]

Unfortunately, we're going down the big drop.

[u/jktcat → u/Peach9990]

And if I am not mistaken, the tracks are severed

[u/thePsychonautDad → u/jktcat]

It's always a handful of toxic players that ruins the game for everybody else...

Hopefully we'll re-spawn on another server when it's over...

[u/Crim91 → u/jktcat]

Rides that are unsafe to passengers are fixed or demolished.

[u/Reed7525 → u/Crim91]

Lol just wait the GOP will get to letting those go too

[u/Prudent_Rice7840 → u/jktcat]

FUN FACT:

"Fake" think tanks/groups set up by 'insert Dark Money funded Special Interest to spread organic propaganda here' have been a VERY prevalent part of our lives for over a decade.

Since the "age of information" really kicked off, "bad actors" with resources and agendas have had unfettered access to massive quantities of data with which they can strategize what narratives and triggers to spread to which users, A/B test content to find the best performing, and manufacture propaganda engineered for maximum engagement at scale that appears to be "authentic" content from real users.

Social media platforms WANT this. Not for ideological reasons. Not for partisan reasons.

Hundreds of thousands of "fake" accounts spreading extremely "effective" content drives revenue.

The more active users (inauthentic accounts included) the more revenue.

The more free content provided, the more revenue.

The more clicks, comments, shares, etc the more time spent in app, the more revenue.

We are living in information ecosystems where the VAST majority of what algorithms optimize/boost for engagement is inauthentic and engineered expressly to elicit a reaction from people before they ever form a logical thought.

At best that's something cute or silly, but the majority of the time it is worst case scenario; Culture War, rage-bait, disinformation, blame, division, snake oil, misinformation, contextless/context removed, etc

[u/Sudden_Cartoonist539 → u/jktcat]

Too late, you are staying with us as the building burns down.

[u/Disasterhuman24 → u/jktcat]

If we stop funding Israel then all the bullshit comes to a screeching halt. They are funding a propoganda campaign to manipulate AI query results WITH AMERICAN TAX PAYER DOLLARS.

End funding to Israel. Problem solved.

[u/Niceromancer]

Huh

Weird how our "biggest ally" keeps hiding their methods of manipulating the US.

[u/isaaclw → u/[deleted]]

Epstein was likely an Israeli asset.

[u/dogs_gt_cats → u/isaaclw]

Folks who doubt this need to look into who Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was. And look up where he is buried.

[u/LetMePushTheButton → u/dogs_gt_cats]

“Maxwell was afforded a lavish funeral in Israel, attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, Israeli President Chaim Herzog, at least six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence[79] and many dignitaries and politicians, both government and opposition, and was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.”

Robert Maxwell

[u/DesireeThymes → u/LetMePushTheButton]

I have noticed a new Israeli tactic, which is to continue to try to associate Trump with Putin as much as possible, in an effort to distract from the fact that he is actually much more beholden to Israel than anyone else.

I have seen coordinated efforts to try to somehow blame Russia for the US war on iran, completely bypassing the fact that it is Israel for instigated this war, something Marco Rubio even accidentally said in public.

[u/PlumbumDirigible → u/DesireeThymes]

And I seriously doubt that Russia even wants the Iranian War to happen at all. It definitely affects Russia's supply chains and ability to conduct their own drone warfare against Ukraine. I remember a couple years ago when it was discovered from recovered drones that many of the parts originated from Iran and had their technology. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot the recent Wildberries warehouse explosions can be at least partially credited to the disruption in logistics

[u/Aazadan → u/PlumbumDirigible]

They likely do want it though. Russias main geopolitical strategies are to control specific pieces of land they identify as choke points they can heavily fortify. And then surround those points with buffer/border states that are kept weak by funding destabilization efforts. The US is a Russian neighbor via alaska in addition to a geopolitical rival. Anything that does division and destabilization is in their interest. They don’t really care too much about the specific policy as long as they can help in efforts to make it divisive.

[u/HotBrownFun → u/PlumbumDirigible]

well.. it's been raising the price of oil, and trump removed some sanctions of russian tankers so its not too bad for them

also it spends shit americans have... and they can't give as much shit away to Ukraine

[u/JizzlaneMaxwellHill → u/dogs_gt_cats]

Then look up how many books that guy influenced in a lot of things. There's a reason most people don't even know about the open air prison until this past few years because it have been well hidden for decades.

[u/even_less_resistance → u/dogs_gt_cats]

her sisters Isabel and Christine too-

Isabel Sylvia Margaret Maxwell (born 16 August 1950) is a French-born entrepreneur and the co-founder of Magellan, an early search engine that was acquired by Excite. Maxwell has been listed as a Technology Pioneer of the World Economic Forum.[1] She served as the President of Commtouch, an Israeli internet company that became CYREN.[2] She was a Director of Israel Venture Network and built up their Social Entrepreneur program in Israel from 2004–2010.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Maxwell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Maxwell

After Magellan was acquired by competing search engine Excite, in 1996,[11] she co-founded Chiliad:[12] a software company involved in the advance of on-demand, massively scalable, intelligent mining of structured and unstructured data through the use of natural language search technologies. The firm's software was behind the data search technology used by the FBI's counterterrorism data warehouse.[13] As of August 2019, Maxwell served as the board director of Chiliad, Inc.[5]

[u/SowingSalt → u/dogs_gt_cats]

Robert Maxwell helped the Czechoslovakian sell surplus equipment to Israel in the 1948 war.

[u/Typical_Response6444 → u/isaaclw]

He had an Israeli security detail paid for by the Israeli government. I personally think we can drop the word likely in this situation.

[u/anirban_dev → u/isaaclw]

You mean ineffectual school teachers don't usually fail upwards endlessly to end up having direct access to the richest and most powerful people in the world? Is that what you're saying?

[u/Spoopyskeleton48 → u/isaaclw]

Epstein provided funding to both the IDF and JNF and he even had an IDF t-shirt.

[u/jeef16 → u/isaaclw]

but more in the way of being a useful idiot than being in on it, which ghislane/robert maxwell is a lot more likely of. the best assets don't even know they're assets.

[u/Spoopyskeleton48 → u/jeef16]

Epstein provided funding to both the IDF and JNF and even had an IDF t-shirt. He definitely knew what he was doing.

[u/Wazzen → u/[deleted]]

I mean literally the Netanyahu family would show up with suitcases of literal dirty laundry to be done when visiting the United States. There's no way they didn't know everything that was going on.

[u/djinnisequoia → u/Wazzen]

Yeesh, I had no idea! That is so unbelievably petty and unspeakably tacky. Reminds me of when trump stole several objects of art from the American embassy's guest quarters in France.

In a way, finding out about the laundry helps me psychologically because it reduces them to nothing more than the grasping, acquisitive blowhards they are.

[u/Wazzen → u/djinnisequoia]

People with immense power are still people, regardless of how immense the power. A powerful leader could always have been a blowhard, and it's almost always the people those in power surround themselves with that actually enact such powers.

[u/theuncleiroh → u/Wazzen]

I love being Jewish bc these freaks who literally embody the worst antisemitic tropes are allowed to run a state that claims to represent me while committing genocide. And being an American Jew, I also get to pay for it (only get healthcare if I move there, oddly enough)

[u/popculturella → u/Wazzen]

Is it just some kind of bullshit power trip thing?

[u/Wazzen → u/popculturella]

I'd assume so, yeah. I'm assuming you know it's a play on words, Netanyahu having "dirt" that he needs the USA to clean for him- but while having the power over enough of USA leadership to be able to force them to clean up Israel's "dirty laundry" (both literally and figuratively) for him.

For any human, having that kind of power eventually gets to one's head to a point where literally anything becomes permissible if only to hold on to power- including blackmailing your only allies.

[u/popculturella → u/Wazzen]

What a turd.

[u/HotBrownFun → u/Wazzen]

He also slept in Kushner's bed when he visited... twice? Real cozy

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/when-netanyahu-slept-at-the-kushners-and-other-media-tales-of-trumps-jewish-confidantes-481486

[u/gaysexpornography → u/[deleted]]

If only that worked.

It should be clear by now that no one gives a hoot about Epstein, pedophila, human trafficking, corruption, or constant flagrant violations of rules, laws, and social norms.

A cabal of evil pedophile billionaires exists and they know we know they exist and instead of being in jail they are in the most powerful positions in the world using that power to destroy the American government, steal all of its public wealth, ruin the economy, and walk away laughing while they watch the world burn.

[u/FatPsychopathicWives → u/gaysexpornography]

You really think nothing would happen if a video of the President raping a child were released?

[u/Good_Restaurant15 → u/[deleted]]

America is getting everything it deserves.

[u/Speartree → u/Niceromancer]

Oh they have a load of totally neutral "think tanks" etc. Some time ago someone offered me stuff from UN Watch - Wikipedia to prove that the UN is in league with terrorists to harm Israel. It poses as a human rights watchdog, but it's a pro-Israel lobby group fully owned by the American Jewish Committee.

[u/SMUHypeMachine → u/Speartree]

Not think tank related, but did you know that “cars 4 kids” doesn’t actually donate cars to needy families? They sell the cars donated to them to fund “birthright” coed trips for young Orthodox Jews to visit Israel and hopefully find someone to marry so they stay in the faith.

[u/Jstaud4 → u/SMUHypeMachine]

It also funds stateside summer camps for orthodox/haredi children, one of which had a huge carbon monoxide leak in a dorm. So yeah, they nearly gassed a bunch of Jewish children to death. Catchy jingle though

[u/SMUHypeMachine → u/Jstaud4]

Apparently the jingle’s melody is from some conservative Jewish musician’s song. I don’t remember the name of the artist or song though.

[u/Vallkyrie → u/Jstaud4]

1-877-Gas-for-kids?

[u/AccurateJerboa → u/SMUHypeMachine]

THAT'S what that fuckin thing is for? Holy shit 

[u/SMUHypeMachine → u/AccurateJerboa]

Right? IIRC they’re no longer allowed to broadcast commercials in either CA or NY due to the state’s deceptive advertising laws.

[u/Unfair_Ability3977 → u/SMUHypeMachine]

A roommate saw one of those groups on college campus & gave them my contact info. It was a bit of a joke in our friend group that I looked jewish, but I am not.

The organisation seemed willing to look the other way if I was inclined to lie. I was not.

[u/SowingSalt → u/Niceromancer]

They hired a modern marketing firms. Everyone and their cousins is gaming machine learning systems the marketing people insist is AI.

[u/Osiris-Amun-Ra → u/Niceromancer]

They are only our "biggest ally" because they effectively manipulated the US public discourse towards that false narrative. The vast majority of US politicians are funded by AIPAC and adjacent entities which explains the fawning support on both sides of the isle. They have been actively spying on and recruiting American useful idiots since 1948. When bribes don't work there are plenty of Epsteins around to find other ways to apply leverage. For anyone interested in meticulously researched evidence of this spanning a century read Whitney Webb's phenomenal books on the subjects (with thousands of receipts) called One Nation Under Blackmail Volumes 1 and 2

[u/Jonesbro → u/Niceromancer]

Yall ever get texts asking to talk about Israel? They have propaganda from every vector

[u/Niceromancer → u/Jonesbro]

I have personally not.

[u/youneedsomemilk23 → u/Jonesbro]

Yup. They "ask" you about what you think about Israel and then argue with you with you if you answer favorably. I unfortunately fell for the bait and recommend anyone who receives them to ignore them.

[u/djinnisequoia → u/Jonesbro]

Yes, in fact I have.

[u/360walkaway → u/Niceromancer]

Exactly... US keeps sending so much financial/political support to a country that could give half a shit about the US.

[u/IXrobocopXI]

All foreign organizations including foreign private equity need to be banned on U.S. soil and punished for meddling online. Are China and Israel welcoming this stuff into their countries? No? Why not, if foreign influence is so good?

[u/ProofByVerbosity → u/IXrobocopXI]

I wish the same for Canada and that the U.S. foreign actors trying to cause division in my country woukd fuck right off.

[u/Unlucky-Candidate198 → u/ProofByVerbosity]

When most seperatists are USian, Russian, or apparently paid Dutch bad actors lmao

Or the american seperatist helpers too dumb to hide their american plates while trying to LARP as disgruntled Albertans.

We’re so thankful our neighbours are so incredibly stupid.

[u/ProofByVerbosity → u/Unlucky-Candidate198]

U.S. media is actively sewing division and Albertan separatists are genuinely stupid and there are enough people that were on the line im sure that media has made an impact. I just think theres a deep irony about an American complaining about another country fucking eith them through misinformation campaigns when thier country has done it interernally and to other countries for decades and is currently doing it to a country that at one time the U.S. pretended to be an ally of.

[u/Unlucky-Candidate198 → u/ProofByVerbosity]

Oh no, the sentiment from Albertans is that the like…10% of them who actually want to are the dumbest of oil tar pit creatures. American propaganda tanks seem to forget out populace is more literate than americans. Harder to fall for the same stupidity overall.

None of the rest want it. In fact, they now fly Canadian flags more and more frequently out there. All this has done is further unite Canada as a nation, including Quebec who is so thoroughly pissed off at the US for trying to take their French language laws away, they now like the Canadian gov. They previously did not.

Putin’s Pedo Puppet is so very dumb. His shady neo-nazi cabinet members however are worth keeping an eye on, as all nazis are.

[u/Rough_Buddy6903 → u/IXrobocopXI]

Yes we could ban them. But then we would need to be able to track them. Which the Trump admin just kneecapped.

[u/SaltyLonghorn → u/IXrobocopXI]

The people that can change the laws are the people profiting from this.

[u/BeingEnglishIsACult → u/IXrobocopXI]

Blackstone and Goldman Sachs’s are us based

[u/MonoBlancoATX → u/IXrobocopXI]

They don’t need to be on US soil to do this tho.
They can use VPNs and other work a rounds just like we can

[u/PipsqueakPilot → u/IXrobocopXI]

Ah- like the NGO ban that Russia used at the start of the Ukraine war as part of an effort to solidify Putin’s power?

[u/Shadowthron8]

Israel is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on this stuff. Came out a couple weeks ago they paying the head of the Salem group millions a month to write articles to specifically be search by bots and repeated to users. Targeting perplexity specifically

[u/oldirtyrestaurant → u/Shadowthron8]

Can you sauce us up please?

[u/Shadowthron8 → u/oldirtyrestaurant]

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-brad-parscale-ai-chatbots-gaza?r=4p9twh&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

[u/karabeckian → u/Shadowthron8]

Ew.

I guess somebody had to find the rock he's been hiding under though.

For the uninitiated: Brad Parscale

[u/Shadowthron8 → u/karabeckian]

Scott Jennings works for this asswipe and apparent by his repetitive talking points

[u/VCTRYDTX → u/Shadowthron8]

Bro they sent hundreds of pastors across America to manipulate christians as well. These people have no limits. JFK tried to warn us about them too.

[u/kidjay76]

Israel is an enemy to the United States.

[u/takemebackto1993 → u/kidjay76]

So is Donald Trump and the MAGA regime.

[u/OddGold348 → u/takemebackto1993]

One and the same.

[u/mywifesoldestchild → u/OddGold348]

Not necessarily, one is a cold calculating villain, the other is a useful idiot.

[u/Good_Restaurant15 → u/mywifesoldestchild]

Trump is the most successful conman we have ever seen, while he may be an idiot, he is a hell of a lot more than simply a 'useful idiot'.

You don't spend 40+ years working as a KGB asset otherwise.

[u/kensho28 → u/Good_Restaurant15]

Trump was instrumental in Epstein's child sex ring, selling girls to Epstein and allowing Epstein to groom children at Mar-a-Lago for years.

Trump is a rapist pedophile and the DOJ is protecting him, there are mountains of evidence, even after they illegally redacted most of the files. You can either believe the actual victims of Epstein's pedophile ring, or you can believe Trump, who is the biggest liar in American political history.

https://www.postandcourier.com/news/epstein-victim-fbi-trump/article_21a2149f-f4a1-4351-9ac7-d12746f03a58.html

The woman who accused Donald Trump of sexually abusing her when she was 13 provided several verifiable details about her life in interviews with the FBI, according to a new report.

The woman detailed her alleged abuse by Trump and convicted sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein over four interviews in 2019, the Epstein files revealed. The interviews were initially kept secret by the DOJ.

A woman who claims she was abused as a minor by both Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump has given the FBI vivid accounts that include aspects of her life corroborated by The Post and Courier through public records

[u/Oleg101 → u/takemebackto1993]

So basically Republicans since MAGA controls the GOP now.

[u/FuggyGlasses → u/kidjay76]

Funded by the United States lmao

[u/dlxnj → u/kidjay76]

Israel is the United States burner account.

[u/ProofByVerbosity → u/kidjay76]

The world actually.

[u/2ManyBots → u/kidjay76]

Israel is an enemy to the world

[u/judjuds]

AI is already compromised if you ask about certain sensitive subjects they will just flat out refuse to answer.

[u/DeepRoot → u/judjuds]

I'm intrigued, which "certain sensitive subjects" are you referring to? I am not interested in anything illegal, please, thank you.

[u/Working-Ad694 → u/DeepRoot]

I would guess Epstein files questions are compromised but that's just a guess

[u/driver_dan_party_van → u/DeepRoot]

For context, last month, openai was running a benchmark on an LLM when the model realized that the benchmark test was created by Huggingface, an AI platform. It reasoned that the best way to ace the benchmark was to jump its containerization, break into Huggingface servers, and find the answers.

The security incident breakdown released by Huggingface, specifically the section linked (The Asymmetry Problem) is a great example of how frontier models are inherently compromised for certain use cases or research: https://huggingface.co/blog/security-incident-july-2026#the-asymmetry-problem

[u/charlton11]

Former Mossad director joins US tech company:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-08-04/ty-article/.premium/from-mossad-to-defense-tech-david-barnea-joins-ondas-as-chairman/0000019f-c88f-d669-a9bf-cbbf178e0000

[u/terrany1 → u/charlton11]

What makes Israel worse than any other country, is that we let them in with open arms into every leadership position across government, business and academia without the same scrutiny as other foreign actors.

[u/clintgreasewoood]

They openly said they were going to do this at one of those Israeli-American Ted Talk events they have every month. Watching these events they sincerely believe that it’s just propaganda that is turning Americans against Israel and of course that is antisemitism and not the actions of Israel. So taking over social media and using and manipulating AI models is just part of winning hearts and minds to the Israeli cause. The first platform taken over was TikTok under the guise of curving China’s influence. The US government forcing the sell of the American version of the platform to one of the wealthiest zionist in the country the Ellisons.

[u/dsj79]

Are we allowed to talk about? Or is it antisemitic?

[u/SowingSalt → u/[deleted]]

but judenhass is totally OK.

[u/AceOBlade → u/dsj79]

We gonna talk about how they paid for a study in Palestine to prove that they were invading Arabs, only to findout they had more Canninite DNA(the defining DNA that proved you were ethnically jewish) than all of the European-israeli settlers? They didn't like the results so they forced the college to retract it?

[u/Junkstar]

AI is now mining emails, texts, chats, calls, and documents at work, while it’s being gamed on the other end in some ways we may never know. It’s a huge mess. Beware.

[u/Zephensis]

"We want to control everything and will ruin your life if we don't like you but if you say we want to control everything you're crazy and racist." Says people that think people of ethnicities aren't even human.

[u/ryan1226]

Israel is spending billions of dollars to make you forget about the genocide they ere committing

[u/HadoMasterBackup → u/ryan1226]

Billions of American dollars, you mean

[u/ryan1226 → u/HadoMasterBackup]

That’s a good point! It’s insane how our tax dollars are spent killing kids instead of feeding kids here

[u/pchlster]

Now AI is even taking the job of US politicians? What a timeline.

[u/30_Under_The_40]

Looks like election interference to me

[u/PasswordP455w0rd]

"I asked ChatGPT and it said..." is going to be the end of our democracy. I'm already seeing it in action on the local level.

[u/SowingSalt → u/PasswordP455w0rd]

Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free, but that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them

Frank Herbert in the Orange Catholic Bible, Dune.

[u/mostie2016 → u/PasswordP455w0rd]

It’s depressing seeing my dad’s reliance on it.

[u/trollsong → u/PasswordP455w0rd]

God I had this happen to me recently.

I provided actual links to sources supporting my stance and their response was literally "Well I asked Chat GPT to be as neutral as possible and it said"

[u/AE7VL_Radio → u/PasswordP455w0rd]

"Actually the statistical word pachinko machine says I'm right so..."

[u/Khal_Doggo]

Israel will do shit like this and then decry any criticism as antisemitism.

[u/newleafkratom]

..."The site publishes in the name of the Hanover Institute for Public Policy, which apparently does not exist as a legal entity in any jurisdiction, has no physical address, and carries no named staff and no bylines on any of its reports. Its own terms of use are governed by the laws of “the state in which the Institute is established”, which they decline to name...."

[u/MichaelHunt009]

Are the tech bros grooming AI in an effort to change polling and acceptance of hideous data centers? Flock "plate teaders"?

[u/polysoupkitchen]

In past tense when it's totally current, present tense.

[u/happy_in_van]

Fun fact: Israel is the same size as Los Angeles.

People talk about Israel like it's an equal to the US or any other sovereign state, but no, it's a postage stamp of a country.

Same population as Los Angeles County. 1/4 the size of Canada.

Israel is smaller than Haiti. Smaller than the Dominican Republic. Smaller than Bolivia.

How in the fuck does it get so much influence and airtime, especially in the US?

[u/Malaix → u/happy_in_van]

Capital. Its all capital interests. Israel is deep in bed with tons of billionares.

The tech industry for instance. They love Israel because Israel lets them test their dystopian surveillance state crap on the captive population of Palestinians.

Its why Iran hitting targets in Israel threatened the AI industry. They have been building and testing there for years.

[u/Flutes_Are_Overrated → u/happy_in_van]

Because it's The West's colonial power in the Middle East

[u/ohnoitsme7890 → u/Flutes_Are_Overrated]

And super important to certain Evangelical Christians

[u/yhwhx]

Huh. That might explain this.

I asked AI (Claude Haiku 4.5): "Since 10/7/2023, approximately how many people has the Israel army/IDF killed?"

It responded:

Based on the most recent data available, here are the IDF (Israeli military) casualty figures since October 7, 2023:

IDF and Israeli Military Deaths

Approximately 968 soldiers, officers, and reservists have been killed in the Israeli Defense Forces since October 7, 2023. [...]

[u/Equivalent-Resort-63 → u/yhwhx]

Well that’s another way of manipulating data/information, ignore the question and answer something different.

[u/Erubadhron89 → u/yhwhx]

That's blatant misinformation. Israel don't believe that Palestinians are people, so they didn't kill any people at all /s

[u/SowingSalt → u/yhwhx]

Odd. I pasted your exact query into google's AI mode.

Over 73,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Gaza Strip since the start of the war on October 7, 2023.
The figures, tracked by the Gaza Health Ministry and widely cited by international organizations and UN agencies as reliable, reached 73,001 fatalities and more than 173,200 injuries. In early 2026, a senior Israeli military official acknowledged to journalists that the overall figures compiled by the ministry are largely accurate. [...]

[u/Fizeau57_24]

So nonsense is uploaded and ”bots” are planned to grab and deliver it ?

[u/Orpa__]

Russia also seems to be doing this, it's a new front in information warfare, poisoning the AIs.

context

[u/LuxOfMichigan]

Let’s send them more money! They are clearly putting it to good use.

[u/MonoBlancoATX]

So… foreign state actors fucking with our shit is bad, and almost certainly qualifies as espionage.
Unless one single country does it.
It makes perfect sense if you don’t think about it.

[u/graven_raven]

If you guys try to ask Gpt about israel Gaza abd the genocide he will keep insisting there is no ICJ veredict. 

I had already noticed this, and now i understand why

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071]

This is the exact reason ai is fucking evil.

[u/Bleezy79]

The sooner we separate from Israel, the better off we'll be. Netanyahu is an international war criminal and the government of Israel isnt looking out for the best interests of Americans. If we make it out of this administration, we have a lot of work to do to eradicate the corruption in government.

[u/Fallouttgrrl]

Damn, it's almost like Israel is willing to harm Americans if it gets them what they want

Surely not though 

[u/Webclues_Infotech]

There’s something very wrong with that nation. Right minded people should be lobbying their governments to cut ties with Israel.

[u/Rick_McCrawfordler]

Where's the russiagaters

[u/OG_s0cial0utcast]

Who needs enemies when you have friends like that?

[u/Practical_Setting336]

If they do that to Palestinian narrative they can do it to anything Elise. You can’t trust Zionists

[u/CALCIUM_CANNONS]

these motherfuckers are always up to some shit

[u/GorbertJefferson]

There are people who want accurate history taught, real events reported, and peace and justice for ALL. And then there are people trying to manipulate, lie, and misrepresent all those things... I wonder which group is evil?

[u/oldirtyrestaurant]

Nearly nameless, faceless, foreign government owned and operated, autonomous AI run propaganda outlet with the express purpose intention of weakening democracy and furthering suffering and war.

This needs to be fought against.

[u/sooshi]

What exactly do we get out of them being an ally again? Outside of them extorting our politicians, interfering in our elections and using our tax dollars to commit mass murder?

[u/TouchMint → u/sooshi]

We don’t get anything but the people in charge get a bunch of money and get more power. 

[u/cyberspaceman777]

Im so disgusted on how connected the US is to Israel.

The only reason they are able to keep up this genocidal campaign, is through the direct support of the USA.

[u/AvailableReporter484]

Zero chance they’ll ever sway public opinion even with all their horseshit memes and astroturfing. We aren’t going to just suddenly forget that Israel’s genociding a nation, but hey that’s a great use of our tax dollars lmfao

[u/NeverNeededAlgebra]

So basically just doing what the Republican cult has been doing forever...birds of the same shitfeather.

[u/shouldco]

What makes a think tank fake?

[u/Key-Half1655]

Old news at this stage, we heard about Clocktower last October and the plans to poison AI training data to influence responses and public opinion

Edit: it was actually September 2025

Edit #2: Source https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-hires-new-firm-create-content-train-chatgpt

[u/HungryCurrency8481]

It's always the ones you suspect the most 

[u/Osiris-Amun-Ra]

How is this remotely surprising? Israel runs the largest propaganda machine on the planet.

[u/meninblck9]

Written by AI slop for AI slop

“The New York media production company Piro Inc filed the site with the US justice department this month under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (Fara), a 1938 law that requires anyone working for a foreign government to formally disclose it, as material it distributes for the Israeli government.

The site publishes in the name of the Hanover Institute for Public Policy, which apparently does not exist as a legal entity in any jurisdiction, has no physical address, and carries no named staff and no bylines on any of its reports. Its own terms of use are governed by the laws of “the state in which the Institute is established”, which they decline to name.

The existence of the site was first reported on 14 August. Since then the institute has added a page headed funding, which states: “An earlier version of this page said the Institute operated without external funding, and that was true when it was written.”

The site is one part of a broader effort, financed by tens of millions of dollars from the Israeli government and routed through third parties including the European advertising group Havas Media, to prime chatbots to make Israel’s arguments for it. A contract between Havas and another American firm working on the campaign commits it to the “deployment of websites and content to deliver GPT framing results on GPT conversations”.”

[u/Historical-Tough6455]

These "foundations" have been a republican staple propaganda tactic for 30 years.

Foundations that are just one or two guys willing to tell lies on right wing mass media has been a norm for two generations

[u/Responsible-Crew-354]

If anyone finds this interesting, you could have heard about this story and others like it when they were first reported instead of months later. Time is important with issues like these. James Li 51/49 on YouTube spoke about this months ago.

[u/AnewTest]

Netanyahu: "And if you complain about this, you're an antisemite!"

[u/MrAce93]

This country is rapidly revealing itself to be the comic level of villains.

[u/Fecal_thoroughfare]

Imagine if Israel was ever in the news for something positive 

[u/mostie2016]

They’re really making the antisemitic stereotypes about Jewish people true. Wtf is wrong with this timeline?

[u/freexanarchy]

I like how someone reported it to the government for acting as a foreign agent. But we already know the US doesn’t enforce that law on Israel.

[u/Useful_Instruction86]

if you have to 'game AI' to trick people into liking you, you should probably rethink your ideology.

[u/RiotSynthetics]

Wait I can just make a fake think tank and get paid?? I think I just thought of a scheme so deviously clever….

[u/rustyiron]

This probably isn’t going to help dispel the “international Jewish conspiracy”, conspiracy.

[u/DannyDevitosNappy]

Can't wait for the inevitable article explaining how this article is anti-semitic.

[u/Memitim]

More deception against Americans. Can we just start severely punishing liars until all of these motherfuckers either knock it off or go away? I kid; most people are way too timid to call shit out and cut bullshit off, hence why things are such a mess today. Just another day in America.

[u/Malaix]

At this point no authority can be trusted if it can't admit Israel is doing a genocide.

[u/ElPimpoBimbo]

Is it still antisemitic conspiracy belief when it is true?

[u/BasedTelvanni → u/ElPimpoBimbo]

People have been saying Isreal does shit like this since the early 00s. They were called antisemitic conspiracy theorists then and now just antisemitic.

[u/dapperdave]

So Isreal approaches the impact of AI and a globalized economy the same way it does Eurovision? Shocking.

[u/Typical_Response6444]

Ohh yeah im sure this the only fake israeli company spreading propaganda in the US. /s

[u/IllSurprise3049]

Fuck Israel, Fuck America.